22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
you know, as much as i don's like anything bigger than 19/20" on these cars they look pretty good on your car. I think it's because your stance is just right. I'm not a fan of that particular wheel design though.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
a lot of money to spend to look. "ok" to "brutal".
cost of wheels and what you could sell the car for would get you another mint original IROC.
if it makes you happy thats all that matters. most people dont like my trans ams so im use to it.
cost of wheels and what you could sell the car for would get you another mint original IROC.
if it makes you happy thats all that matters. most people dont like my trans ams so im use to it.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Stance has everything to do with it.... i wasnt a big fan of the wheel design either. But it should help people trying to fit big wheels. Ive found the kmc nova and am going to go with a 20" staggered set. 8.5" wide up front and 10" wide in the back
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I'm not hating,but it all comes down to proportion.That wheel size is not proportionate to the rest of the car.It's not ugly,it looks like one of those "Dubs" toy cars i've seen at stores.If you want that look and like it more power to ya,it's your car.Eveybody has thier own idea of what looks good.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I'm with the "NO" crowd.
3rd gens just aren't designed for them.
Nothing against big rims.
That like putting 24's on a Geo Metro!
3rd gens just aren't designed for them.
Nothing against big rims.
That like putting 24's on a Geo Metro!
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Those rims belong on an Escalade! Big rims on our rides is not my style, but if anything you should have gone with 20 Irocs. I've seen some guys pull that off and it actually didn't look that bad. I think the biggest part is having your car lowered so it sits just right. Looks like you accomplished that part.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
While true, new Camaros etc. come with 20s from the factory, it's because they are designed to; the wheel well radius is MUCH bigger, and much more proportionate to the MUCH bigger vehicle--park next to a new Camaro and you'll see what a tall bloated pig it is compared to our cars.
So, in that vein, just because something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done. Likewise a new Camaro would look absolutely stupid on 15 inch wheels.
I guess for me personally the issue arises with the fact that the wheel wells simply weren't radiused large enough for anything bigger than 18" to look good. Going beyond that, the wheel well just isn't contoured to match, and it looks goofy. Anything over 18", and I see rims, not a car. When I see rims, and not a car, then I start thinking "hood rich".
I'm also not a fan at all of that wheel style, size aside--way too gaudy/blingy/ghetto for my taste, but don't let my opinion stop you--it's your car, do as you wish and I doubt my opinion does bother you because you knew when you posted this thread that people were going to be split on wheels this big; I will give it to you though, rims aside that's a nice, clean car you've got.
So, in that vein, just because something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done. Likewise a new Camaro would look absolutely stupid on 15 inch wheels.
I guess for me personally the issue arises with the fact that the wheel wells simply weren't radiused large enough for anything bigger than 18" to look good. Going beyond that, the wheel well just isn't contoured to match, and it looks goofy. Anything over 18", and I see rims, not a car. When I see rims, and not a car, then I start thinking "hood rich".
I'm also not a fan at all of that wheel style, size aside--way too gaudy/blingy/ghetto for my taste, but don't let my opinion stop you--it's your car, do as you wish and I doubt my opinion does bother you because you knew when you posted this thread that people were going to be split on wheels this big; I will give it to you though, rims aside that's a nice, clean car you've got.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
cant hate.. like the stance and size looks better than i expected.. but keep that lip an offset and go different style wheels.. IMO thumbs up but they are ugly wheels
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Hey I got the same alignment rack from hunter. Hate it though because I loose money on dualy trucks. Love the look though. Reminds me of my car but only with an 8" lip on 20's and13" wide rim.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Put me down for a hater. Worst idea ever. F-body's were meant to perform, not look like jack *** donk cars.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
**** son, i did ball joints on a f550 tow truck and alignments on duallys all the time. That alignment rack is best of the best. The alinment heads go up to 24" wheels with no adapters, i can fit up to a 32" wheel or a 40" tire with the adapters.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Good grief, put this thread to bed!!! Bored with the + & -'s. too many repeat comments. The man worked hard to get his ride like he wanted it. Congrats!!!
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Well im sure of it but when we get a mega cab full size 4 door long bed dualy we can't do a rolling comp. The back heads hit the lift posts. And we have many of them always wanting alignments
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Youre only aligning the front wheels anyways. Never had issues or comebacks.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Good work man. Glad to see somebody doing something different with their car.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I think if you bought a decent looking wheel they would cost more then the car .Those wheels are ugly and look like they should be on a lexus or something.yes I hated.sorry
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
dont big rims rub the inner fenders regardless of what car they are on. unless its lifted to high heaven, and arent they probably about 3 times as heavy?
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
how much does that throw off your speedo
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
This has been covered in the thread already. Same with the rubbing question, read the thread because its already been answered.
My car is about as low as you can go before switching to airride and i cleared 22's with minimal trimming. The correct offset and tires are critical to how the final product turns out.
My car is about as low as you can go before switching to airride and i cleared 22's with minimal trimming. The correct offset and tires are critical to how the final product turns out.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
ive read this whole thread, i guess it was earlier and i didnt remember
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Not the worst that I've seen, but that's slammed? My car on 16's sits lower than that thing.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
[quote=5.SLOW;4798373Found out later that they actually make a 235/30-22 tire. That would bring you almost to stock tire height.[/quote]
Yeah, I don't know how you're thinking that close to stock height.
But geez, I thought my 245s were skinny, you're going to run 235... on a 22in rim. They also look like what my friend on his 90s lexus, which is where I think they belong.
Put me down in the hater club.
It's a car, not a wagon. Can't go "Oregon Trail" in this b**** lol
Yeah, I don't know how you're thinking that close to stock height.
But geez, I thought my 245s were skinny, you're going to run 235... on a 22in rim. They also look like what my friend on his 90s lexus, which is where I think they belong.
Put me down in the hater club.
It's a car, not a wagon. Can't go "Oregon Trail" in this b**** lol
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Yeah, I don't know how you're thinking that close to stock height.
But geez, I thought my 245s were skinny, you're going to run 235... on a 22in rim. They also look like what my friend on his 90s lexus, which is where I think they belong.
Put me down in the hater club.
It's a car, not a wagon. Can't go "Oregon Trail" in this b**** lol
But geez, I thought my 245s were skinny, you're going to run 235... on a 22in rim. They also look like what my friend on his 90s lexus, which is where I think they belong.
Put me down in the hater club.
It's a car, not a wagon. Can't go "Oregon Trail" in this b**** lol
My car IS slammed with 16's on it. I run 225/50s up fron and 245/50s in the rear. Ground to fender lip up front is like 25.5", rear is a hair under 26".
You can see in he side view pic that there is ZERO gap between the tire/fender up front with the 22's, im actually within 3/4" of tucking the wheel lip.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
In not a fan of more than 18s on these cars but I'm more about function over form. I've seen a few cars with oversized irocs and imo they look good most of the other wheels that size like those particular wheels only really belong on luxury cars/suvs .
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Oh, I didn't mean vehicle height, I meant tire height (OD). The wagon comment was not towards vehicle height either, just that 22" wheels with 1 inch tire on each side might as well be wagon wheels.
And those are exactly what my friend has:
And those are exactly what my friend has:
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
looks sick! I was originally planning on putting 20's on mine untill i read your post and saw that 22's would actually fit! To me, the 22 inch irocs just look BETTER than the 20's. I have minor rubbing when i try to turn completely to the left, buut after driving it for a while you learn how to maneuver it I dont have a problem braking, its as simple as mashing your foot onto the brake haha. you inspired me
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
Looks good & not god awful ugly like them lifted ones. Much props to you for going outside the box & being a leader & not a follower like most of us in here. His car is a cruiser, not a street racer, no real functuality, just for looks. To each his own, some of you guys may think your ride is nice, some dont. Its so sterotypical that if you got big rims your car is lifted, loud paint & leopard interior. All in all it was tastefully executed.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
The larger the wheel, the lower the car needs to be.
You seem to have done a good job with this as the car doesn't look too bad with that set up. With that being said, the biggest I would probably go would be a 19' for performance issues.
You seem to have done a good job with this as the car doesn't look too bad with that set up. With that being said, the biggest I would probably go would be a 19' for performance issues.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I like how it sits and the dimensions of the wheels...im not a fan of full faced wheels but it still looks really good nice job...i wonder how it would look with a none full faced wheel
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I wouldn't ever suggest going above an 18" wheel on a thirdgen - 17" if you are on anything put perfect CA or FL roads.
Realize that a 265-35-22 is almost 4" taller than stock, reducing your gear ratio a whole lot and adding a lot of unsprung weight.
Realize that a 265-35-22 is almost 4" taller than stock, reducing your gear ratio a whole lot and adding a lot of unsprung weight.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
A 265/35 is too tall. If you would read the entire thread, i used 245/30's up front and 295/25's i. The rear. They were strecthed to fit a 9" wide wheel in the front and an 11" wide wheel in the rear, effectively lowering the overall rolling diameter of the assembly. The difference in gearing/speedo accuracy was less than 7%. Therfore, the difference was nothing you could see or feel. Case dismissed.
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
The reason for that is not as much the speed you think to be travelling being more then 2% off, which can be neglected.
It's the difference in wheel/tire mass, and the additional leverage on all suspension components caused by this difference in size.
Stock suspension in most vehicles just is not able to deal with these differences reliably. This is only worse after 20+ years of wear.
Stock suspension bushings are not engineered tpo deal with the far higher wheel weight in combination with the weight having more leverage which increases torque on bushings and mounting points.
When braking the added 7% in size noticably increase the leverage on the front shocks, again on suspension bushings and mounting points as well as on your brakes.
Unless you're modifying the complete suspension setup as well as brake setup to deal with these factors, or manage to find superlight 22" rims and lose approx. 600 lbs of vehicle weight you're a potential safety hazard.
For these reasons I only find it a good display of common sense to not increase the wheel/tire diameter by more then 2%.
Just my 2 cents however.
Happy driving
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Re: 22" wheels on a slammed 91 Z28........
I don't know, but I find it amusing that rapper eminem of all people says big rims are stupid in one of his new songs, lol.
I'd like to say they will go away, but when the new Camaros/Challengers come with gaudy large wheel wells and 20s from the factory, it doesn't look promising.
I love the Challengers, and I went to look one night and had my car parked next to it. The Challenger was a good foot or more taller than my car, and really just looked like a big bloated clown car compared to mine.
18s are the biggest these cars look good with IMO. Anything bigger and all of a sudden it's all about the wheels, and no longer about the car which I think is stupid. But again, to each his own.
I'd like to say they will go away, but when the new Camaros/Challengers come with gaudy large wheel wells and 20s from the factory, it doesn't look promising.
I love the Challengers, and I went to look one night and had my car parked next to it. The Challenger was a good foot or more taller than my car, and really just looked like a big bloated clown car compared to mine.
18s are the biggest these cars look good with IMO. Anything bigger and all of a sudden it's all about the wheels, and no longer about the car which I think is stupid. But again, to each his own.