project89

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1994 camaro

guy from the junkyard i deal with gave me a call a few days ago to let me know they had just gotten in a 94 f-body and he wants 200 bucks for it. the guy calls me up anytime any f-body stuff hits the yard

car is/was a 3.4 auto car black paint and grey cloth interior, no motor or trans though, apparently the body is in great shape but the paint is horrible, and has 4 mismatched rims

but hey for 200 bucks if its in as good as shape as he says it is i might as well pick it up

if i do ill just have to decide what to do with it

been thinking about a gen 1 sbc nitrous motor
maybe a mild 3.4/t5 combo
4.3 turbo build ( though im not to sure the 4.3 would go into tthe 4thgen body as easy as it does the 3rdgen


but then i rembered the 3.6 caddy engine its basically the same as the new camaro engine except its mpfi.

six u would prolly know best out of everyone what would i be looking at to drop one of those caddy 3.6 engines in and are they infact basically the same as the 3.6 DI engine in the 5thgen?

Z28ricer

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Wait, you want to drop a large OHC motor into a 4th gen ?

project89

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i successfully stuffed a ford 302 into a honda crx, this shouldnt be much harder, this is why they make blue tiped wrenches,sawzalls,cutoff wheels,BFH's , and welders for

fasteddi

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Go for the LLT or caddy motor. Ive not seen one of those pulled off on a F-body yet.

Z28ricer

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The point isnt that it doesnt fit, or fit easily.

Its that with a cramped engine bay like they have its a lot of work, and harder to work on than just installing a stock LS1, for something that isnt even going to perform better.

project89

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if i wanted an ls1 car i would have bought an ls1 car.if i want something fast ill jump in my twin turbo iroc. and if i didnt want alot of work i wouldnt be putting a 4-71 blower on a 3.4 for the firebird.

not to mention besdes that i have the turbo v6 camaro, a rmt dodge intrepid ,and a silverado 2500.

if i cared about how hard something would be to do i wouldnt have half the cars i already have

fasteddi

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Well said

Z28ricer

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I've gotta know, what exactly was "well said" from that ?

All I saw was, "If I wanted to do something logical, i'd be talking about putting an LS1 in it, instead I do a lot of other stuff all mixed up and illogical."

There is a big difference in "caring about how hard something is to do" and just not knowing when something is a waste of time.

Street Lethal

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Oh no, the LS1 flag wavers have found the V6 section, and now it's Dave's turn to hear it.

Z28ricer

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Yeah man, you figured it out, 2012 and I just figured out where the V6 section was

Street Lethal

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Yup, sure did, quite some time ago, too. Did ya get tired of the theoretical section? Now gonna sling your LS1 rhetoric to the V6 guys lol? Why not just enjoy the member's thread for what it is, being that, it is 2012 and you've been a member here for so long. Must you cause an argument with each and every thread...?

Go for the 3.6 Dave, being that this "is" the V6 section, and it sounds like a plan...

Z28ricer

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Must you cry arguement when someone brings logic and sense into a thread where someones list of engines is so far spread all over the place that you may as well have just listed every single current GM offering ?

Street Lethal

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Again, this is the V6 section, these guys aren't interested in V8's. I can sit here too and tell Dave to build something that might yield better performance, but why should I if this is what he enjoys doing? It's his project, and I can at least respect that. I have absolutely nothing against LSX engines, but not everybody is interested in them. Looking at your car in your profile... I can respect the fact that you went with an LSX engine for performance, and I am sure it's a runner, but knowing me I would have went RB26. Does it matter? Nope, cuz if LSX engines make you happy, then why should I try to persuade you otherwise.

Z28ricer

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Yep, got me there.



I didnt tell him what to build, I offered a little bit of insight into a build that wasnt even a build, where the powerplant was still nowhere near selected, and the chassis in no way shape or form lends itself to a large engine.


Indeed, you would have went RB26, the difference apparently is that i've got the experience, been there done that, and selected the engine for logical reasons, not to try to be "different" or "say that i did it" or every other illogical selection.

Street Lethal

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Actually Dave, go 3800 w/turbo...

Z28ricer

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Certainly a better idea than the DOHC V6, by a longshot.

project89

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the cars not getting a v8 period so u can take ur put an ls1 in it somewere else

and guys have pushed 500-600 hp out of the turboed 3.6 very easily
i dont care how much work it is to do a 3.6 thats the motor i want thats the motor it will get,no matter how many ppl tel me its dumb or that there are better motors to put in it.

anyone got the dimensions of the 3.6 caddy motor ???

Gumby

Build my roadster out of it, works the same with a 4th gen, chop the top, sit in the back seat and slide the front end back till your comfy

a nice weather only 2 seater, where any engine will do, as you just cruise around when its nice, interior can get wet when it rains, and you step on the seats to get in and out, a radio no one would want to steal... like an old 4cyl jeep, great when you can remove the top and ride around, other wise parked.

you got plenty of fast cars now


http://thirdgenchat.org/z28ster/

fasteddi

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What is well said is that he said "if" he wanted this or that then he would do that insted.

Modding up a V6 is not a waste of time....Christ man Im a beginner by FAR and have less money into my turbo set up then the cheepest "reliable" LSX swap would have cost me. Its not hard to do what you want when you know the steps to do it, planing and research make a build all the better. Be it a Gen 1 V8, Lsx, turboed V6 or whatever. They all have there difficulties and whatnot. Its what a person wants that seperates them from being another drone and just tossing whatever others think is what they "should do"

Dam n V8 guys chopping up the V6 forum again...

Dave I vote 3.8 turbo, or just build up one baddass 3.1/3.4 again. But then again a 3.6L would be a awsome accomplishement man!!

34blazer

i remember jason line had a 3.6 caddy mill in his car, easily making over 1000hp.

i say set the bar, and then share all your notes LOL

haisud

in my country you can get good condition camaro/firebird v6 4rd gen for 1900-2300 euro
LT1 v8 for 5000-6000 euro
LS1 v8 for 8000-10 000 euro

What prices is in USA?

project89

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for a 4thgen v6 u can get a decent one for 1,000-1,500 usd but it all depends on what part of the country u live in to, there arent a whole lot of camaros in the area i live in so not many to choose from

i didnt buy the car though, the body was in great shape but the interior smelled like somone drove the car into a swamp then rolled up the windows and stuck the car in an oven for a few weeks

theres no way in hell i would have goten the smell out without replacing the whole interior, and for that much work i may as well just bought a good running car