Ryan_Alswede

Who makes them and how much HP and how much $$??

KED85

When ya find out the answer, realize I can get ya 3.4 running engines all day.
I paid $850 for mine.
Call 323-587-3144 ask for Marty M-F, 8-4 PST.
Tell him Karl sent ya.
Keep this option in mind. As GM did the rebuilding work for ya!

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

614Streets

http://www.engine-parts.com/GMV6/gm34da.html

Also http://www.tacreationsusa.com/v6.htm

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1992 ext cab S10
173 on NOS, 5153Nos,Black Magic,2030 Crane Cam,11mm Moroso Wires, MSD 6al, MSD Blaster Coil,K&N,Holley Tbi, Edelbrock Headers,40 series Delta Flow,Zexel,Toms 28 spline axles,Hypertech chip, Granetelli 190 lph, Centerforce Dual Friction,Jet pulleys,Spray Bed Liner, Altezzas,Pioneer din 1/2, 01 Vette wheels, Harwood 4 inch hood, and Much more...

Brian K

What's the difference between a short block and long block?

Ryan_Alswede

Short block has no heads a long block does.

Brian K

So 975 for everything but the MPFI setup, sounds good....

Ryan_Alswede

614Streets
I already knew of the place you said but is there anybody else, YOU CAN save a lot of money if all you do is over bore your current 3.1L block .120 to 3.620 and add a stroker kit and have a real nice engine, you don't have to buy a WHOLE engine, just rebuild the one you have.

614Streets

Ryan, a 3.1 doesnt require a stroker kit. 3.1's and 3.4's both use the same crankshaft and rods. I would not overbore a 3.1 .120 over. 3.4's have thicker cylinder sleeves and are able to handle a .060 overbore. So get a 3.4 block , overbore it for even more cubes.

Your best bet is to buy one from TA Creations(I was quoted $550 including shipping for a mid mile 3.4). Then after you get it , rebuild it using forged 10.0:1 ross 3.4 forged pistons .060 over bore

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1992 ext cab S10
173 on NOS, 5153Nos,Black Magic,2030 Crane Cam,11mm Moroso Wires, MSD 6al, MSD Blaster Coil,K&N,Holley Tbi, Edelbrock Headers,40 series Delta Flow,Zexel,Toms 28 spline axles,Hypertech chip, Granetelli 190 lph, Centerforce Dual Friction,Jet pulleys,Spray Bed Liner, Altezzas,Pioneer din 1/2, 01 Vette wheels, Harwood 4 inch hood, and Much more...

Ryan_Alswede

614Streets
What is the best over bore I can do with my BLOCK and what pistons do I use to get 9.5 to 1 compression. And what is the best CAM to use???

614Streets

.060 over max

2.8 engine owners can use these pistons:

http://www.secureleadercom.com/store...tem=9&mitem=26

3.1 guys need custom pistons here:

http://www.rosspistons.com/custom/sixcylinder.php3

"Chevrolet V-6 173, 200, 229"

Flat Top
65-11
$447.18

Dome Top
65-21
$503.46

Reverse Dome
65-32
$503.46

Special Hollow Dome
65-22
$503.46

Special Head Type
65-23
$539.16

The best Mild stocking shelf cam is the 2030 CraneCompucam.
For best performance in a street car with altered chip:
PowerMax H-272-2
replacing:
HMV-272-2

Cam Specifications


Degrees Duration @ .050 Int./Exh. Degrees Advertised Duration Int./Exh. Degree Lobe Separation Open/Close @.050" Cam Lift Int./Exh. Lash Hot Int./Exh. Gross Lift Int./Exh.
216
228 272
284 112 1 35
51 ( 3) .000
.000 .454
.480

Best strip/street cam for guys who dont mind running a custom chip ,turbo city mab bar sensor and can handle setting lash every month:
PowerMax
F-248/3334-2-12

Cam Specifications


Degrees Duration @ .050 Int./Exh. Degrees Advertised Duration Int./Exh. Degree Lobe Separation Open/Close @.050" Cam Lift Int./Exh. Lash Hot Int./Exh. Gross Lift Int./Exh.
248
258 310
320 112 17 51
66 12 .022
.022 .500
.520

Best overall cam is to call crower cams and have a roller cam made just for your wants and needs. Crower has the only 2.8 roller cores. Will run approximatly $500 but will crush all other cams in driveability and power.



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1992 ext cab S10
173 on NOS, 5153Nos,Black Magic,2030 Crane Cam,11mm Moroso Wires, MSD 6al, MSD Blaster Coil,K&N,Holley Tbi, Edelbrock Headers,40 series Delta Flow,Zexel,Toms 28 spline axles,Hypertech chip, Granetelli 190 lph, Centerforce Dual Friction,Jet pulleys,Spray Bed Liner, Altezzas,Pioneer din 1/2, 01 Vette wheels, Harwood 4 inch hood, and Much more...

Ryan_Alswede

614Streets
BUT the web site you just gave me IS doing the .120 over bore???? They tell you this right on the web site.

We do not sell this engine as a kit. It is only available as a shortblock or longblock because each block must be sonic tested prior to building to ensure proper cylinder wall thickness for strength and cooling. We do all necessary machine work to the block, crankshaft, and connecting rods prior to assembly in our own In-House Machine shop in Missouri. Then, each engine is assembled by one of our qualified Engine Assembly Crew. All this leads up to an engine you can trust and get a noticeable power increase out of over the stock 2.8L engine.

So which pistons are the best and which ones will give me the 9.5 to 1 with the 3.1 rods and crank??

Thanks

KED85

Ryan,
FOR THE EFFORT ya put out, please strongly consider getting the right solution from the start.
Just get the lowest milage motor and slip it under the hood.
You won't be sorry, promise.
I never am & I enjoy my 3.4 swap every day.

Really, go for the right solution!

YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED!!!!

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

Ryan_Alswede

But KED85 that sounds nice but IT COSTs more and it won't be my BLOCK, remember I asked you about VIN numbers matching, I want my numbers to match, other wise i'm going for the V8.

TechSmurf

Why worry about vins anyway? If you're punching out your block that hardcore, your resale value is going to plummet anyway. I see alot of people turn away from great cars every day just because they're punched as much as .040

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