Crate Engine
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Crate Engine
Are there currently any High Performance Crate 3.1 Engines out there? I don't really wanna go to an 8, and I can't find a 3.1 block to build my own anywhere close, SOOOOO.....or even any 3.4L engines.
Ked, please don't put in "Drop a 3.4 in it. I did. Pulls like a freight train." No offense, but I believe if I read that in one more post I'll take my monitor and throw it across the room. Thanks.....
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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40)
92 Camaro RS 305 TPI
97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6
92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
Ked, please don't put in "Drop a 3.4 in it. I did. Pulls like a freight train." No offense, but I believe if I read that in one more post I'll take my monitor and throw it across the room. Thanks.....
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See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40)
92 Camaro RS 305 TPI
97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6
92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
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None that I know of,just Keds Freight train 3.4 Just kiddin!!
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92 Camaro 3.1 V6 (Red)
-Hypertech Chip
-Dynomax Exhaust
-Taylor Spiral Spark Plug Wires
-2.5 Harwood Lift-Off Cowl Hood
-B&M Megashifter
-B&M Shift Improver
-15x8 Crager 5-Star Chrome Rims
-JSP Apache Wing
-Yellow Weapons-R Intake Filter
-KYB Shocks & Struts
-Borla Exhaust Tips
-MSD Coil
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92 Camaro 3.1 V6 (Red)
-Hypertech Chip
-Dynomax Exhaust
-Taylor Spiral Spark Plug Wires
-2.5 Harwood Lift-Off Cowl Hood
-B&M Megashifter
-B&M Shift Improver
-15x8 Crager 5-Star Chrome Rims
-JSP Apache Wing
-Yellow Weapons-R Intake Filter
-KYB Shocks & Struts
-Borla Exhaust Tips
-MSD Coil
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ovrclck350:
"Drop a 3.4 in it. I did. Pulls like a freight train."
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"Drop a 3.4 in it. I did. Pulls like a freight train."
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How's your monitor?
j/k
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Car: 1999 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: LS1 - 346 ci
Transmission: 4L60E
LOL, not to flame ked, but im agreein w/ everyone else here, a freight train pulls A LOT more than a 3.4.
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Stock 2.8 MPFI auto w/ Flowmaster 40, More to come......
New Pioneer Head Unit
2x 10" Thruster Subs (blown) powered by 300 Watt Jensen amp
More to come..... (hey, i dont got a job yet)
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Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
I don't think there's any 3.1 crates.. I haven't heard of any. I don't think GM uses the 3.1 anymore, do they?
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I"m pretty sure they still use it on some/most of their little cars, but last time I talked about a FWD engine, I got schooled, so disregard all knowledge of mine.
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Drop a 3.4 in it. I'm doing it..... I hope it'll pull like a freight train!
LoL.... j/k man!
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--'87 Camaro LT --
Currently undergoing a 2.8->3.4 swap.....
LoL.... j/k man!
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--'87 Camaro LT --
Currently undergoing a 2.8->3.4 swap.....
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After installing my brand new 15 inch monitor I realize that it's not as nice as my shattered 17 inch laying on the floor...
Still lookin for crates of either 3.1 or 3.4. And does anyone know the exact HP diff between the two?
Still lookin for crates of either 3.1 or 3.4. And does anyone know the exact HP diff between the two?
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!!!!!!
Very funny.
There are crate motors of the 3.4.
They cost $1600. Local Chevy dealers.
Sorry, after driving this Firebird with only the 2.8 and not being able to drive the 1974 Corvette like I can the Firebird (I can't see that easy outta the Corvette for quick lane changing in LA traffic), it does....... WOOOOOOO-WOOOOOOOO
Seriously, no one in your area can/will help you locate a running 3.4?
I once called a place in Fla, they offered to ship me a 3.4 for $700 total.
Do you want a 3.4 shipped from Los Angeles area to you? I can arrange the calls for you.
We once had a Cadillac, that this Firebird acts like. Lots of solid, smooth, continuous power to the upper RPMS. This swap just has not ceased to amaze me
Will a 3" pipe system really make that much difference in the current power I have? I know a CAI certainly will.
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Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
Very funny.
There are crate motors of the 3.4.
They cost $1600. Local Chevy dealers.
Sorry, after driving this Firebird with only the 2.8 and not being able to drive the 1974 Corvette like I can the Firebird (I can't see that easy outta the Corvette for quick lane changing in LA traffic), it does....... WOOOOOOO-WOOOOOOOO
Seriously, no one in your area can/will help you locate a running 3.4?
I once called a place in Fla, they offered to ship me a 3.4 for $700 total.
Do you want a 3.4 shipped from Los Angeles area to you? I can arrange the calls for you.
We once had a Cadillac, that this Firebird acts like. Lots of solid, smooth, continuous power to the upper RPMS. This swap just has not ceased to amaze me
Will a 3" pipe system really make that much difference in the current power I have? I know a CAI certainly will.
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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
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Dyno results dyno results. Off my 3" i-pipe, 3" y-pipe i gained 6 hp and 11 tq
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2.8 V6 w/ t5 tranny Flowmaster 80 series, 3" Intermediate, 3" custom made y-pipe, SS Tips, Random Tech Cat, Msd Coil, MSD 6a, Cold Air Intake w/ K&N, Lakewood LCA's, Brushed aluminum Hood pins ETC...
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New Color Paint (Grey), 4thgen seats, 2" cowl hood. Possibly 1.6 rockers if I have any money!
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89 Firebird (AKA "Money")
2.8 V6 w/ t5 tranny Flowmaster 80 series, 3" Intermediate, 3" custom made y-pipe, SS Tips, Random Tech Cat, Msd Coil, MSD 6a, Cold Air Intake w/ K&N, Lakewood LCA's, Brushed aluminum Hood pins ETC...
Next:
New Color Paint (Grey), 4thgen seats, 2" cowl hood. Possibly 1.6 rockers if I have any money!
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My Site:
www.geocities.com/firebird89white
" I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT run at all ".
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www.sdpc2000.com
He's in Lubbock Texas
www.paceparts.com
He's in the "330" area code.
He wants $1700 for a new 3.4 long block
You want part number 12363230
Don't spend the extra money on computer parts.
BUY THIS ENGINE
The Train is coming
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KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
He's in Lubbock Texas
www.paceparts.com
He's in the "330" area code.
He wants $1700 for a new 3.4 long block
You want part number 12363230
Don't spend the extra money on computer parts.
BUY THIS ENGINE
The Train is coming
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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
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Thanks Ked, If I DO definately decide to do it I may be in touch. I don't want to say I'm going to do it, then change my mind and back out. I'd rather weigh all the options because I may sell an buy a v8 bird. After looking, I can get $5000 for mine here in the summer, and I've seen 91 Vert 305's for $5500 in Dallas. I've also seen 91-92 TA's for around the same.
It'll be a little while tho, I'm still trying to pay off my college and my car repairs which sucks w/ a fast food job. I'm workin 44 hours a week, takin 18 class hours, and already lost all my academic scholarships. I guess I forgot to sign up for the "rich parents" list somewhere along the line.....
Oh well, summer's almost here, I build swimming pools in the summer and bank hardcore......
It'll be a little while tho, I'm still trying to pay off my college and my car repairs which sucks w/ a fast food job. I'm workin 44 hours a week, takin 18 class hours, and already lost all my academic scholarships. I guess I forgot to sign up for the "rich parents" list somewhere along the line.....
Oh well, summer's almost here, I build swimming pools in the summer and bank hardcore......
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Don't be concerned about saying yes, than backing out.
This isn't a marriage proposal
You can get $5K for your car, as is?
That's a damn great option!
Your Grandfather will give you $5K for a broken engine car?
Check out every option you can, as it will only be in your favor!
I'll bet in your search for the 3.4 engine, you turn up a great option as a wrecked convertible, and all it needs it some TLC!
Ask bank loan officers for leads or insurance company people for local leads, too!
Get the convertible now! Cheaper in wintertime!
Even ask the cops, they may know.
BUT, this wrecking yard 3.4 engine is a very economical way to get your car back on the road, especially after all the work you put into your current car foundation. That was the major problem I had when my 2.8 blew. The rest of the car was in such great shape (especially the tranny, as it was fresh rebuild).
Use those college brain cell smarts now
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Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
[This message has been edited by KED85 (edited February 16, 2001).]
This isn't a marriage proposal
You can get $5K for your car, as is?
That's a damn great option!
Your Grandfather will give you $5K for a broken engine car?
Check out every option you can, as it will only be in your favor!
I'll bet in your search for the 3.4 engine, you turn up a great option as a wrecked convertible, and all it needs it some TLC!
Ask bank loan officers for leads or insurance company people for local leads, too!
Get the convertible now! Cheaper in wintertime!
Even ask the cops, they may know.
BUT, this wrecking yard 3.4 engine is a very economical way to get your car back on the road, especially after all the work you put into your current car foundation. That was the major problem I had when my 2.8 blew. The rest of the car was in such great shape (especially the tranny, as it was fresh rebuild).
Use those college brain cell smarts now
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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
[This message has been edited by KED85 (edited February 16, 2001).]
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KED85:
Your Grandfather will give you $5K for a broken engine car?
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Your Grandfather will give you $5K for a broken engine car?
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Sorry, that was some one else that mentioned about Granddad giving him money for a broken engine & car.
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Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA
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I called my uncle askin him what size engines we have laying around, and he said besides a couple 454's we have a 305 and a T350 tranny. Called a friend of mine w/ a banged up 87 Formula w/ a blown head gasket. I can have the WHOLE car for $500. My uncle says he wants the car to build a race car, and he'll help me build a Hella-305. I looked up stock numbers, and there's only around 15HP diff between the 305, and 350, SOOOOOOO, 305 Modded TPI, here I come.....
Screw it, I'm goin TPI 350.....that'll work...
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See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40)
92 Camaro RS 305 TPI
97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6
92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
[This message has been edited by Ovrclck350 (edited February 17, 2001).]
Screw it, I'm goin TPI 350.....that'll work...
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See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40)
92 Camaro RS 305 TPI
97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6
92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
[This message has been edited by Ovrclck350 (edited February 17, 2001).]
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