84bird

heres the #s CO% 0.00 HC ppm 11 NO ppm101 d
dilution 13.4% And Pa.has one tough test so don't worry about your jet chip.

Ovrclck350

I heard that all the Jet Stage 2 does is lower the fan turn-on temp, and advance timing 3 degrees at WOT. I dunno, I put mine in and can't really notice a difference. I'm thinking of buying all the stuff to start burning my own proms.

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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....

DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40)


Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6
92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)

Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N

AIM name OVRCLCK350

Brian K

I have a fastchip, but first let me brief you. I once had a hypertech chip and noticed nothing so after several years I gave it away. I bought a fastchip form Ed Wright and he claimed all the effects begin at 3/4 not WOT. So I tossed it in and it felt pepier. In fact with his chip I was able to pull a 16 with no real mods...

My mods are at http://www.geocities.com/overlift

CaliCamaroRS

those are very similar to my #'s with no chip.(except for my NOx, my O2 sensor is lazy). here they are:
at 1759 RPM---
HC's: 11ppm
AVE.: 12ppm

CO: 0.01%
AVE.: 0.07%

NOx: 409ppm
AVE.: 194ppm
MAX: 891ppm


----looks like the chip doesn't make much difference.

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Dan
1990 3.1L RS
80 Series Flowmaster
It's fast(er than a 3 cyl metro)

Grim Reaper

I agree with Ovrclck 350; those "over the counter aftermarket" chips do very little. I've looked at the changes they've made and its pathetic. A complete rip-off, sorry to say. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish some of the car magazines would look inside the code and tell the hot-rodding public what they REALLY have in them. But they won't because many are heavy advertisers. (They won't bite the hand that feeds them).

The worst part, some of them are BAD changes.

FAST RS

I passed emmissions with flying colors all my stuff was below the avg and i had ALLOT of leadway to go i have the sheet in my car if you want me to piost it i will

84bird

the chip does regulate fuel mix as well as timing plus it works with 160 thermastat which is important to me since I used to have heating problems in the summer and in traffic now I don't even see 180 unless i'm stuck in traffic for hours . I don't find much from the bottom end but the engine does run smooth start quick and rev to 6 grand effortlessly and by the way this is a carbed motor I can't wait to have the edelblock , holley and isky in and she what # she'll pull. But if you are thinking that a chip will hurt your emissions well all I can say is this one won't. And yes I would like to burn my own especially when the other mod's are done.

Grim Reaper

Actually a well burnt custom chip can often make an engine that might otherwise fail emissions actually pass. You can control so much more when you burn it yourself.

And then, when you get all the equipment and see what these "off-the-shelf" eproms do, you'll realize what a waste of money they were and wish that you'd just burnt your own.

The only GOOD news, is some of those "off-the-shelf" eproms use a ZIF socket to hold the eprom in, which can make the process simpler for some cars. On the cars that use a memcal, the ESC circuitry is on the memcal too; that's why you will often see a "piggyback" chip used for those cars. They intercept the eprom and let the ESC circuitry "flow through" to the memcal.