My 3.5 swap project...
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
And it moves!
I drove it a whole 50' yesterday. Still needs a good shakedown but so far the brakes seem to work well.
Also, I believe I found the cause of my "Gangster lean".. One of the rear springs wasn't sitting right in the rubber isolator. Right now the car is sitting level.
I drove it a whole 50' yesterday. Still needs a good shakedown but so far the brakes seem to work well.
Also, I believe I found the cause of my "Gangster lean".. One of the rear springs wasn't sitting right in the rubber isolator. Right now the car is sitting level.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Maybe I missed it, but what spring are you and mars running in your prop valve? Is it one of those Grainger springs?
I am swapping to a Moraine disc setup, too, and I'd like mine to hold strong.
I am swapping to a Moraine disc setup, too, and I'd like mine to hold strong.
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1NCR5 I believe, yes.. from Grainger.
Car looks silly w/o the chin spoiler installed (was removed to get it on a tow dolly last year). Once i find the last bracket i'll install it and go for a spin.
Car looks silly w/o the chin spoiler installed (was removed to get it on a tow dolly last year). Once i find the last bracket i'll install it and go for a spin.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Rear end works great, and the LCARBs seem to be doing their job as well. Went for a quick spin last night.
It nose dives quite a bit now under hard breaking, that could also be the lack of a front sway bar. I haven't really driven it on the street much since last summer so I can't recall if it did that before.
Now, to get back to re-doing the tune so it runs well without the ITB's.. and hopefully put down some good times at the next track rental.
It nose dives quite a bit now under hard breaking, that could also be the lack of a front sway bar. I haven't really driven it on the street much since last summer so I can't recall if it did that before.
Now, to get back to re-doing the tune so it runs well without the ITB's.. and hopefully put down some good times at the next track rental.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Cant wait to see your track times.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
I might have 1 left although it may have been re-purposed as a throttle return on my son's go kart. I'll have to look tomorrow.
the pack was just under $7 from Grainger, it made a good difference when I had the drums. Took like 5 minutes to change.
Not really sure when i'll make it to the track, been working 6 days lately with only Sunday off. Hopefully that'll be over soon and i'll get out there.
I should be a little under 6K RPM at the 1/4 mile mark in 3rd gear VS about 4800 with the 3.73's, Hopefully that'll help a little. 1st gear is going to be interesting though.
the pack was just under $7 from Grainger, it made a good difference when I had the drums. Took like 5 minutes to change.
Not really sure when i'll make it to the track, been working 6 days lately with only Sunday off. Hopefully that'll be over soon and i'll get out there.
I should be a little under 6K RPM at the 1/4 mile mark in 3rd gear VS about 4800 with the 3.73's, Hopefully that'll help a little. 1st gear is going to be interesting though.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
I have a spare spring Blair, shoot me a text if you want... Dave had sent me 2 of them...
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Pretty sure it's on the kart, there are a couple stacked up on the throttle return.
I spent the weekend playing with the exhaust, moved the mufflers to the back of the car to gain some ground clearance. I also removed the cutouts since they were pretty pointless. I live on a hill and every time i'd drive up the exhaust drug on the bumps.. lol
My spare tire well was very rotted so part of it was removed to make muffler clearance. Just need to make a sheet metal filler piece to weld in and seal up any other holes in the floor pan.
No tips yet, haven't decided on what to use. Right now it sounds great though.
I spent the weekend playing with the exhaust, moved the mufflers to the back of the car to gain some ground clearance. I also removed the cutouts since they were pretty pointless. I live on a hill and every time i'd drive up the exhaust drug on the bumps.. lol
My spare tire well was very rotted so part of it was removed to make muffler clearance. Just need to make a sheet metal filler piece to weld in and seal up any other holes in the floor pan.
No tips yet, haven't decided on what to use. Right now it sounds great though.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
made another 10 or so passes today, first 5 were crap but the rest were all on par with previous runs. Still mid 13's. Same traps as i had with the ITB's.
With that being said, i think i may have to throw in the towel on my 12.99 goal with this setup. It's just not going to happen with a 700R4.
On a good note, I weighed the car on a calibrated scale today and it was 2950 lbs. A little of that is the passenger seat that I left in and a few tools and misc things floating around. I didn't have my skinnies on the front, just the IROC's so there is another 60 lbs extra.
new video from today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjAA...ature=youtu.be
I'm hovering around 100 passes on this engine, need to run a compression test and see how it's holding up. I have a feeling that it's probably a little low.
With that being said, i think i may have to throw in the towel on my 12.99 goal with this setup. It's just not going to happen with a 700R4.
On a good note, I weighed the car on a calibrated scale today and it was 2950 lbs. A little of that is the passenger seat that I left in and a few tools and misc things floating around. I didn't have my skinnies on the front, just the IROC's so there is another 60 lbs extra.
new video from today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjAA...ature=youtu.be
I'm hovering around 100 passes on this engine, need to run a compression test and see how it's holding up. I have a feeling that it's probably a little low.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
I feel your pain with the 700R4.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
w/o me.
So with the skinnies on the front, less 1 seat and the other crap in the car it would be around 2850-2870 race weight.
It hooks better with the LCARB's for sure, I ran the slicks at about 25 PSI and had 0 issues.
So with the skinnies on the front, less 1 seat and the other crap in the car it would be around 2850-2870 race weight.
It hooks better with the LCARB's for sure, I ran the slicks at about 25 PSI and had 0 issues.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Weird mine weighed about 299x lbs with full interior except rear seats and rear carpet.. You have a fiberglass hood don't you?
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
th350 or manual
i wouldnt go any other way with it
auto is prolly going to be faster when properly setup
and a manual well its just more fun to drive , manual is also going to break more parts in the driveline , dont recall if u still have a 10 bolt in the car or not
i wouldnt go any other way with it
auto is prolly going to be faster when properly setup
and a manual well its just more fun to drive , manual is also going to break more parts in the driveline , dont recall if u still have a 10 bolt in the car or not
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I feel that a th350 would be nice too for ya as well as me. But I will say after a ride in phonixfirebirds recent 385 build where he put the th350 in it..... its not something I would want for a street car. I road around with him this weekend and the 350 trans is a crispy nice one to have for a strip car indeed. But I could just see me going 80 on the t-pike at 4k rpms...lol spooling the whole way j/k
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I feel that a th350 would be nice too for ya as well as me. But I will say after a ride in phonixfirebirds recent 385 build where he put the th350 in it..... its not something I would want for a street car. I road around with him this weekend and the 350 trans is a crispy nice one to have for a strip car indeed. But I could just see me going 80 on the t-pike at 4k rpms...lol spooling the whole way j/k
My LT1 had 57k when I put it in, and I put about 17k on it, mostly highway miles riding around with a 4L60E that wouldn't shift into 4th gear or apply TC Lockup.
After that 17k miles there was piston slap to be heard like mad. Looked like the engine had seen a ton more than than the mileage I put on it.
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I feel that a th350 would be nice too for ya as well as me. But I will say after a ride in phonixfirebirds recent 385 build where he put the th350 in it..... its not something I would want for a street car. I road around with him this weekend and the 350 trans is a crispy nice one to have for a strip car indeed. But I could just see me going 80 on the t-pike at 4k rpms...lol spooling the whole way j/k
u would be about 3,200 rpms @ 80mph with a th350 with 3:42's
3,500 ish with 3;73's
and how often are u cruising at 80mph most of the time is what 45/55?
3:73's at 55 will be 2400 ish rpms
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Probably not going to put any more money into it at this point, the 700R4 is great for street use and shifts perfect.
Yep, Fiberglass Harwood hood and a 10 bolt with a girdle/better axles. also have a tubular K member but that's pretty close to the same weight as the stock K member.
A T56 would be ideal but the reality is that it's about time for a new project car. I've been saving up for a while to buy a 68-72 Nova, hoping by summer 2014 i'll be able to buy a nice one outright. The Camaro will have to go for sure when that happens.
Interior is going back in, probably some quieter mufflers, power steering, front sway bar and finally.... a friggin radio!
Yep, Fiberglass Harwood hood and a 10 bolt with a girdle/better axles. also have a tubular K member but that's pretty close to the same weight as the stock K member.
A T56 would be ideal but the reality is that it's about time for a new project car. I've been saving up for a while to buy a 68-72 Nova, hoping by summer 2014 i'll be able to buy a nice one outright. The Camaro will have to go for sure when that happens.
Interior is going back in, probably some quieter mufflers, power steering, front sway bar and finally.... a friggin radio!
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Ill buy your car if you sell it for the right price someday. Ill meet ya half ways...
Dave he has 3.70's in his car. Im pushing 2800rpms at 75 right now.
Dave he has 3.70's in his car. Im pushing 2800rpms at 75 right now.
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hell i drive mine around with 4:10's and i cruise higher then that in overdrive
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What price do you see yourself asking for in the future? Just curious...
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Here is a video from the track, racing a 2.2 Shelby (from his car).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWJiA...ature=youtu.be
those turbo mopars are quick!, that one is bone stock.
Here is a cell video, hadn't planned on posting it but why not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTWau...ature=youtu.be
as the video states car is doing around 65 MPH, 2500 RPM in 4th with the TCC unlocked. Cruses just fine there but just a bump to about half throttle and the stall flashes to 4K+. going WOT is downright fun on the highway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWJiA...ature=youtu.be
those turbo mopars are quick!, that one is bone stock.
Here is a cell video, hadn't planned on posting it but why not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTWau...ature=youtu.be
as the video states car is doing around 65 MPH, 2500 RPM in 4th with the TCC unlocked. Cruses just fine there but just a bump to about half throttle and the stall flashes to 4K+. going WOT is downright fun on the highway.
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It depends on what all goes with the car. Most likely it would be a roller with an extra set of wheels, new Hooker supercomp catback kit and a hatch full of 3rd gen stuff. Probably somewhere between 2500 and 3K with the extras.. It does have some rust but nothing that couldn't be fixed. Car has like 77 or 78K on the body.
I'd probably part out my engine to make the most off of it unless i got a really nice offer for the whole thing.
Trans would go up for sale on here, i'm sure a V6 guy would love to have it. low mile '93 700R4 with a Probuilt Street/Strip kit, Vette servo and probably the converter since it might flash too high behind a V8. Plus extra parts (have a new band for it and some other stuff)
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Here is another video (same race as the one i just linked) but from my car.
2-3 shifting that low really hurts, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fitep...ature=youtu.be
2-3 shifting that low really hurts, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fitep...ature=youtu.be
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Probably not going to put any more money into it at this point, the 700R4 is great for street use and shifts perfect.
Yep, Fiberglass Harwood hood and a 10 bolt with a girdle/better axles. also have a tubular K member but that's pretty close to the same weight as the stock K member.
A T56 would be ideal but the reality is that it's about time for a new project car. I've been saving up for a while to buy a 68-72 Nova, hoping by summer 2014 i'll be able to buy a nice one outright. The Camaro will have to go for sure when that happens.
Interior is going back in, probably some quieter mufflers, power steering, front sway bar and finally.... a friggin radio!
Yep, Fiberglass Harwood hood and a 10 bolt with a girdle/better axles. also have a tubular K member but that's pretty close to the same weight as the stock K member.
A T56 would be ideal but the reality is that it's about time for a new project car. I've been saving up for a while to buy a 68-72 Nova, hoping by summer 2014 i'll be able to buy a nice one outright. The Camaro will have to go for sure when that happens.
Interior is going back in, probably some quieter mufflers, power steering, front sway bar and finally.... a friggin radio!
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I have to admit i'm a little sad to say this, but this project has some to an abrupt end. I had a chance this weekend to buy one of my dream cars and I couldn't resist. Of course there were conditions from the wife, one of them being that my Camaro has to go.
With that being said, my plan is to pull the engine/trans and all my added electronics, then sell the car as a roller. I don't think i can sell it complete and get what it's worth.
I won't have any use for the trans so if one of you guys is close enough and wants it, i'll give you a good deal. the 4K stall is also up for grabs.
The engine will be last to go, hoping i can get an offer for it complete, otherwise i'll part it out.
The ITB's will be up for sale shortly, i just need to mount them to something and get some pictures. I also have lots of other random parts.
If you are seriously interested in any of it, PM me and maybe we can work something out. I have to pay back the money I borrowed by the end of summer and the sooner the better.
Here is my new project...
'72 Nova, healthy 355, TH350 with a kit, 2500 stall, ford 9" with 4.11's
With that being said, my plan is to pull the engine/trans and all my added electronics, then sell the car as a roller. I don't think i can sell it complete and get what it's worth.
I won't have any use for the trans so if one of you guys is close enough and wants it, i'll give you a good deal. the 4K stall is also up for grabs.
The engine will be last to go, hoping i can get an offer for it complete, otherwise i'll part it out.
The ITB's will be up for sale shortly, i just need to mount them to something and get some pictures. I also have lots of other random parts.
If you are seriously interested in any of it, PM me and maybe we can work something out. I have to pay back the money I borrowed by the end of summer and the sooner the better.
Here is my new project...
'72 Nova, healthy 355, TH350 with a kit, 2500 stall, ford 9" with 4.11's
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lol.. No v6's in this car. If the 355 ever comes out it'll get a LS/T56.
It runs in full trim on street tires what my Camaro did on fat slicks with tons of suspension upgrades and stripped to a shell.
It runs in full trim on street tires what my Camaro did on fat slicks with tons of suspension upgrades and stripped to a shell.
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i think fasteddi might be interested in that converter it was for the 700 right lol so many thread son here i forgoet whos running what anymore
if he isnt interested in the converter i might be as i have a v6 project going on right now
if he isnt interested in the converter i might be as i have a v6 project going on right now
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Yes I would be interested if you wana sell it. Exspecially if its a good TC.
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Yep, converter is for a 700R4. Has lockup and was built to stall at 4K behind my engine. I've got about 200-250 miles on it since it was re-stalled last year. Probably 20 or so passes.
I'm hoping to take the car out and have some fun before i start taking it apart. I need to find a "Closed road" or a big parking lot to get some videos in.
I'm hoping to take the car out and have some fun before i start taking it apart. I need to find a "Closed road" or a big parking lot to get some videos in.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Yep, converter is for a 700R4. Has lockup and was built to stall at 4K behind my engine. I've got about 200-250 miles on it since it was re-stalled last year. Probably 20 or so passes.
I'm hoping to take the car out and have some fun before i start taking it apart. I need to find a "Closed road" or a big parking lot to get some videos in.
I'm hoping to take the car out and have some fun before i start taking it apart. I need to find a "Closed road" or a big parking lot to get some videos in.
who built the converter and how much does a restall cost?
4k might be a tad high for fast , but if the restall fee isnt bad he could have it tightened up
and honestly even at 4k it still better then the autozone converter hes using now lol
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
The road king im using is 3k flash on the log but im sure im losing so much power its not even funny...lmfao. 13.0's is probley the fastest anyone has ever went with that 118 dollar converter. When every you wana sell it deathsarr ill buy it.
Im ready to see some vids deathsarr! definitely.
Im ready to see some vids deathsarr! definitely.
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Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's
Re: My 3.5 swap project...
The road king im using is 3k flash on the log but im sure im losing so much power its not even funny...lmfao. 13.0's is probley the fastest anyone has ever went with that 118 dollar converter. When every you wana sell it deathsarr ill buy it.
Im ready to see some vids deathsarr! definitely.
Im ready to see some vids deathsarr! definitely.
some of the logs ive looked at show it only dropping 3-500 rpms on the shift so ur converter is deffinatly slipping pretty bad when ur under full boost
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: BBC 509 Merlin ii 9.6:1 pump gas
Transmission: ATI pro th350 sfi case. TSI 5500 st
Axle/Gears: Strange S60 4:10s
Re: My 3.5 swap project...
That was on the old tranny mainly, that had the rpms drop issue. The new one drops nicely since I added the shift kit servo and boost valves. I could even see the rpms slipping in 3rd on old logs with the old tranny. Now its constant positive rpms. But I know the converter is crap. All it is, is a restalled stock converter.
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 Turbo/ 355 twin turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's
Re: My 3.5 swap project...
That was on the old tranny mainly, that had the rpms drop issue. The new one drops nicely since I added the shift kit servo and boost valves. I could even see the rpms slipping in 3rd on old logs with the old tranny. Now its constant positive rpms. But I know the converter is crap. All it is, is a restalled stock converter.
ahh ok i havent looked at any of the newer logs iirc
lol u should take a ride in my car , it leaves the line at 4k flashes to 4650 hangs there for a second and then revs up , rpms never go below 4,600 even on the shift , but on the street it behaves like a stock unit for the most part
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
That's cool. I really want a higher stall though. Sure would help the boost threshold out a bit. But hopefully the 2 step can get it done a week from Friday.
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
u gota get ur car on a dyno sometime soon and see were peak tq is
witht he 260 cam its prolly going to be between 3,500-4k
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Re: My 3.5 swap project...
Just to make Six happy I did take a tape measure and a calibrated eye to the Nova engine bay... Pretty sure my 3500 would drop right in and not have any clearance problems.
I think the re-stall was about 150, i paid $350 for the converter from Revmax.
Still waiting on my buddy to return my cherry picker and engine stand, after that i'll be out of excuses not to work on getting the car apart.
I think the re-stall was about 150, i paid $350 for the converter from Revmax.
Still waiting on my buddy to return my cherry picker and engine stand, after that i'll be out of excuses not to work on getting the car apart.
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