I see a number of fellows turbocharging their 2.8 mpi's Anybody using a supercharger. Is there a unit out there that works with the 2.8 mpi. Hope this is not a stupid question. It interests me and I would like to learn more about it. Dan V

 

Only the Faegol unit. Good luck finding it; it's been off the market for quite some time.

 

and that one was not designed for an MPFI. It was for a carb s10.

Some guy somewhere had a 91 3.1 that he put a novi supercharger on. It was not on this site, but I found that much.

 

Have been out bid by just a few dollars a few times on the Ford 3.8 V6 supercharger I plan on putting on my 2.8

It will be a side mount SC like they do on allot of rice cars. Mine would mount where the AC went and it would stay FI. Only thing that needs made is a bracket and a bottom collection box and tubing to route air into the TB.

Most come with the top hat and I dunno if you could mount a 2nd top hat on the bottom. But you just mount your MAF and such before the SC.

Sort of really simple.

Why the Ford one??? The Buick and chevy ones have a mile long snout on them that just wouldn't work. The Ford one is nice and short.

check them out on Ebay and youll see what I mean. Though not all come with the top hat. And the Ford ones go 4 cheap.

 

Please use the Search feature in the future, as this has also been covered a number of times.

 

Unless you are talking about centrifugal with a custom bracket, no, nothing is available for the 2.8, 3.1 OR 3.4 on a regular basis.

 

best bet would be a p600b cetrifugal or a remote mount m90 the cent one will prolly require more work in making the bracket and tensonor assembly bolt up

 

Thanks for the input guys. I will follow up further on the search engine. Many thanks. Danv

 

Bunch of pics from one of the projects, not mine just have the pics.

Do believe there was also a home made spacer between the blower and intake made with some valve springs installed for a pop off valve. So if there was a back fire under load it could bleed off pressure and not blow up the super charger.


http://ViragoTech.com/Fageolblower/

 

I have a 87 firebird with a 60v6 and I have a ford m90 to play with and this is what I came up with for fun.

 

you have the outlet facing up.... I know that is how it is installed on the T-bird but on a 6-60 flipping it over might be the way to go.

 

To much work for me, why Im going to side mount it where the AC goes.
It doesn't have to be on the engine.

 

gumby u finnaly decided to do it?

 

Just gotta get one, keep being out bid at last sec. NOt good at that game.

 

ive lkearned on ebay dont just put up a minimum bid put up the max amount ur willing to spend this way u dont get into a bid war and lose out in th last seconds just cause u were trying to not bid as high.

bid to ur max and if u get outbid theres always another

 

I have a rebuilt and ported Eaton M90 from a GM if you don't mind fabricating something for the TB. I'll take $125 for it plus shipping...





More here...

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...dfirebird/M90/

It was perfessionally ported and rebuild by Zeal Engineering. The refesh kit alone was $80 when I bought it for a project that never came through (hmm, about 1.5 yrs ago lol).

 

crytical point has a positive displacement supercharger and gumby is refering to a centrifugal. the posi displacement is much more of a custom job because crytical point will be modding his intake exessively to make it work, but has more low end torque than centrifugal. centrifugal is more like a belt driven turbo, better at high end and mounts just like any accesory.

 

gumby is doing the same thing except he will be mounting the blower over the valve cover.instead of on the intake

 

I do understand boost and how it reacts with different delivery, but Gumby had mentioned the Fageol roots type blower, and "Remote Mount" typiclly means an Eaton mounted somewhere besides the top of the intake manifold.

For a cheap/easy S/C, the Eaton remote mount is the way to go if you have the fabrication skills.

 

if somone wanted to play with a lim off an iron head engine it is possible to mount the m90 to it.i toyed with the idea of swaping from turbo to an m90 but i just decided to stick with the turbo.

the lim can be modified pretty easy and i do belive i have a few drawings ill have to see if i cant find them and post them

though the way i came up with will not fit under a stock hood u would need at minum a 2.5 inch cowl hood

jon whats the hieght from the base to the top of an m90 i cant recall

 

Has anyone ever looked into the idea of paying a shop to fabricate a turbo/SC and install it on your 2.8/3.1 respectively? That seems like it would be a much easier route.

For that matter, a member who knows about this stuff could probably make a lot of money on here by offering turbo/SC services.... Has anyone tried that?

 

front snout on the chevy ones is to long, why I like the ford one.
short n stubby.

the chevy ones sell for allot more on ebay over the fords.

 

I have a CNC machine shop and that was the origonal intention with this particular unit that never went any where.

It's good for who ever wants it. I listed it on ebay at one point but was asking $175 at the time and it never reached that due to shipping. I'll sell it to a TGO member for $125 plus shipping though

Dave, my name is joHn lol. it's about 4". I belive it will clear if someone was to make an adapter to fit the LIM.

BTW, tell Rob to send the TB already!!! :P

 

i couoda sworn he said he sent it

if somone wants to give it a go ill make new drawings to make up the m90 adapter. i cant find the ones i did but an adapter can be made with pretty much some cutting tools and a tig wleder and some aluminum plate

 

I have CAD/CAM, send me an .IGES file for a quote.

 

lol cant do that, i can give u just plain olkd drawings and ud have to make the files urself, ehh i wish my sister was stilla round she used to work with 3d design stuff and could make up some really good drawings.

but what u came up with was basically leaving the lower intack and cuttingd down the middle section so it just cleared the fuel rail.
then u can radius in the corners of the runnerrs and pretty much fab in a tray.
box in the tray about 1 inch and then make the lid
u would pretty much have to make the base and top out of 1/4 thick aluminum the sides only need to be 1/8 inch

but witht he 1/4 inch top cutout for the opening on th blower its thick enough to not flex and u have room to drill and tap the mounting holes for the blower

think of it as that plenum i built but smaller, doing it this way will allow u to keep the port injectors and the whole assembly can bolt down from the top side

but u would have to make it so the tray section was able to be bolted down to allow access to the mid runer and fuel rail bolts

ill see about drawing some stuff up later its really pretty simple, if somone can use them fine, im sure somone will eventually get an m90 mounted one way or another lol