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Old 02-28-2004 | 07:54 PM
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Car: 89 Firebird
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I need two pipe's for my car Pic posted as well

Hey guy's

I need the two parts below on teh pic.

Part #1 is the small pipe from the motor that plugs into that stupid pipe that runs behind our alt's and inot the heater core junction box. I think mine had broken befor ethere as they had some stuff that looked to be j-b weld holding it together!

Part #2 is the pipe part that runs behind the alt from where it comes off the heater core junction then it goes right underneath the TBody on our car's! after removing mine the stinking junction part of it where it plugs into the pipe from the motor fell off(another J-B weld job they had done as well!

I have tried by running a new heater hose from the motor to the water pump untill I can get ahold of two good pipe's, but it seems not to work very well. First time the hose got into the belts and boom of course major nasty under the hood with Anti freeze sparyin every place!

2nd shot at it was putting a elbow into it so it couldnt get into the belt's(worked but it still leak's as the bend is so much the hose's wont fit correct!

If anyone has two of those pipe's PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

And help would be good on how the pipe's join would be great(please tell me GM didnt just use some freaking putty shi* to mend them together to start with (I am going to puke if they went that cheap on us!)

Thanks for any ideal's besides a nice flame and some more fuel for it (already have that stuff handy just incase it keep's being a pain!)

Donnie H.
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Old 02-28-2004 | 09:40 PM
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Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
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Axle/Gears: 4.41
Junkyard. Bring PB Blaster (penetrating oil) and an adjustable wrench.

They are the same piece except that one holds the second in place and is a double-threaded fitting.
Old 02-28-2004 | 11:29 PM
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I'll offer this.
On my 1985 MPFI setup, I have some pipe that have multiple water exits.
When mine went I had it welded by a radiator shop.
And you do not have a 1985 engine set up there, seems yours is different than mine, slightly.
IF ya can, go for new parts, due to rust & water damage on old parts in yard.
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Old 02-28-2004 | 11:37 PM
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Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird
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Hey can you take a picture of your engine from the top view? I need to see wheer your vacuum lines go. I can't figer the ones out that come off the intake. One goes to the brake booster, the other one goes out to a T connecter then from the T one goes to the vent motors in the car, but where does the other one go? Thanks
Old 02-28-2004 | 11:48 PM
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Are you saying you don't have the hose routing sticker on the front lip on the underside of the hood, 350man? You want a pic, I may be able to help.
Old 02-28-2004 | 11:56 PM
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Use this as a GUIDE
1985 smog hose routing is a one year stand alone design.
Your smog hose routing WILL be different.
My car is a 1985 & yours is 1988.
IF Maverick has a 1987 routing pic for ya, that may be closer than my pic option shown.
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Old 02-29-2004 | 12:51 AM
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damn that's a most kicking pic Karl
Old 02-29-2004 | 12:59 AM
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I got the sticker... waiting on the cam. Tomorrow when it's light out I'll take it.
Old 02-29-2004 | 10:28 AM
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Car: 85 firebird
Engine: Pos 2.8 pulled and replaced with a 350 tpi motor converted to carb.
Transmission: 700r4, vette servo,shift kit, hayden 15"x8" trans cooler.
my stickers a bit off. It says i have a 5.0 motor.
Old 02-29-2004 | 01:00 PM
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my stickers a bit off. It says i have a 5.0 motor.

Your engine must have grown hanging around the Pretzel carts, Ginos & Pats CheeseSteaks & Lees Hoagies!!

I love that pic Project!
I can't wait for someone to ask what the underside of our cars look like so I can show that side car underside pic again!
Need I start paying you Royalties, Project, for each showing of the smog hose routing?
You can work forward with that vacuum hose routing pic but yours hose routing will be different
Old 03-01-2004 | 01:03 AM
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Car: 89 Firebird
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still need some help here :(

Ok, well if I must order the part's or get them from a junk yard.... Well not that I think it can be done!

But it never hurts to ask(the pipe coming from my motor(broken) it meets the one behind the alt and junctions into the place where I have my heater core bypassed(there is a hose that runs from my water pump to the heater core junction!) Can I just plug the pipe off that comes from the motor to meet the heater core and plug the one off from the water pump that runs to my heater core junction?

I would think the correct answer would most likely be no! But it never hurt's to ask so I might be able to drive her untill I get the parts found or on order and in to my garage....

Please help(I have tried to use a hose to run from the water pump up to my motor block pipe(one of two thing always happens) The freaking hose gets into the belts and I have a nice antifreeze mess under the hood, or the elbow installed to keep it from getting into the belt's it always starts leaking and within a day is almost as bad as if the hose had got into the belts!

I am just worried that it has to have that hose ran to the water pump and back to the block for a reason and think, I would hate torun a good motor over not knowing what i am doing here!

Thanks for all the help guys!

Donnie H.

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Old 03-01-2004 | 01:26 AM
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Dale might be able to spare my old pipe (but also has some "jb weld" stuff for a pin hole. I was able to move the hose over it & clamp down enough to keep from leaking. It's the part that connects to the manifold pipe & the tb coolant hoses.

edit: Yeah, I need to get me some new stickers to place on teh other side of the hood, confuse any mechanics that dare to work on my ride

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Old 03-01-2004 | 09:53 AM
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Remove the old aged pipe.
Go to a radiator shop.
Have them fix it. I had them resolder every joint, securely.
That's what I did to mine. Then shop pressured tested it infront of me.
Cost was $5.
I installed new curved preformed hoses I bought from GM Dealer.
Leak solved.
I "broke" mine during my 2.8->3.4 Long Block Swap Boogie.
Yes, this is a fragile pipe.
Old 03-01-2004 | 10:00 AM
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Old engine parts go to the scrapper tonight/tommorow, you need something YELL FAST.
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