Fageol Superchargers
10-22-2003, 02:48 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Personally hoping that's not a crack shot at me, Vortex, Techsmurf, Lee7, or any of the others working on a turbo setup currently.
10-22-2003, 09:44 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
Engine: Turbocharged/Intercooled 3.1
Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
LOL.. we've got a couple geniuses on these forums then 
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Thats just above rocket scientist though.
10-23-2003, 04:30 AM
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Car: '99 Trans Am, '86 Camaro
Engine: LS1, Scrap
Transmission: T56, T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Stock ZT, 3.42 Open
Nah. We give you genius points, AGood. Our 6s may be faster than yours (when they're running), but you'll kill us in the twisties.
EDIT - And the reason you don't see those blowers on our cars is none of us wants to convert to TBI. 614 is good to go since his S-10 was TBI to begin with, hence what the Fageols were designed for in the first place.
EDIT - And the reason you don't see those blowers on our cars is none of us wants to convert to TBI. 614 is good to go since his S-10 was TBI to begin with, hence what the Fageols were designed for in the first place.
10-25-2003, 06:34 AM
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K & F superchargers were designed & orginally passed by CARB back in the mid to late 80's as a CARB 2.8 set up for the S-10 Series. The S-10 series went to TBI in 1986, K & F adapted & got the CARB to pass the supercharger for that application, also.
The same 2.8 engine is/was used in Jeep Cherokee, so the K & F S/C had more market-ability (if such a word exists).
I was seriously considering that product back in the early 90's for my S-10 Blazer. Then along came the JYR set up & ways to make it street legal (insert a V8).
In the end, I wasn't about to spend $2500 for a K & F supercharger & get some more torque.
In the end I wasn't about to spend the effort & dollars to insert a V8, jump thru the Smog hoops, (re)engineering, poor gas milage & give myself no resale value.
In the end, I drove my 2.8 Blazer for 211,500 miles until the engine died & inserted a ($900) 3.4 & will be very happy I did so. All my 2.8 stuff fits perfectly, no (re)engineering or hood scoops or arguing with smog police. I have power & torque & reliabilty & resale at a great 3.4 conversion price
When K & F S/C first came out, a SC unit for a Chevy V8 cost about $1100 from B & M. Weiands cost about the same, also. Paxton was more expensive by several hundred. No other S/C maker was out there, unitl a few years later on (Whipple & Vortech are names I'm thinking of)
K & F response to my (cost) comment (I had spoken with them about their product), "we have to pay for the certification process". Not outta my wallet.
To me the K & F power for S/C dollar ratio is way off the scales.
I've seen the K & F units for sale at swap meets now for $500 or so. In pieces. Tempted, but still not worth the money.
Insert a 3.4 or go buy a V8 car & have more fun at a cheaper cost. One can buy, rebuild a whole car for $2500. Shave pennies how ya see fit, but it can be done and ususally with a bit more fun (some days!)
The same 2.8 engine is/was used in Jeep Cherokee, so the K & F S/C had more market-ability (if such a word exists).
I was seriously considering that product back in the early 90's for my S-10 Blazer. Then along came the JYR set up & ways to make it street legal (insert a V8).
In the end, I wasn't about to spend $2500 for a K & F supercharger & get some more torque.
In the end I wasn't about to spend the effort & dollars to insert a V8, jump thru the Smog hoops, (re)engineering, poor gas milage & give myself no resale value.
In the end, I drove my 2.8 Blazer for 211,500 miles until the engine died & inserted a ($900) 3.4 & will be very happy I did so. All my 2.8 stuff fits perfectly, no (re)engineering or hood scoops or arguing with smog police. I have power & torque & reliabilty & resale at a great 3.4 conversion price
When K & F S/C first came out, a SC unit for a Chevy V8 cost about $1100 from B & M. Weiands cost about the same, also. Paxton was more expensive by several hundred. No other S/C maker was out there, unitl a few years later on (Whipple & Vortech are names I'm thinking of)
K & F response to my (cost) comment (I had spoken with them about their product), "we have to pay for the certification process". Not outta my wallet.
To me the K & F power for S/C dollar ratio is way off the scales.
I've seen the K & F units for sale at swap meets now for $500 or so. In pieces. Tempted, but still not worth the money.
Insert a 3.4 or go buy a V8 car & have more fun at a cheaper cost. One can buy, rebuild a whole car for $2500. Shave pennies how ya see fit, but it can be done and ususally with a bit more fun (some days!)
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