92RSSlowmaro

Did these cars come with some sort of traction control? I can rarely get my rear tires to spin. No matter what I do.. WOT from a 10 mph roll, dumping the clutch from 4500... Sometimes I can hear my rear tires scratch but mostly the car just screams but doesnt go anywhere.

Is it just me or is it the car?

9D1BURD

I do not know of many v6 f-bodys(not including the TTA) that will spin its tires from a roll.

And 4500 rpm clutch drops sound mighty nice on the clutch

I do know that my 91 v6 bird will light my one tire fire pretty easy from a stop, and thats with 245/50/16 meat in the back.


Maybe try a tuneup? When was the last time it had one? Do a search for tomp's tuneup. It will give you instructions on how to bring your car back to tip top running condition.

It is also something that should be done before modding or trying to diagnose any other problems.

Project: 85 2.8 bird

1. You engine isn't as powerful as you think it is
2. You have severe clutch slipage
3. Tires are too grippy

maybe choice d: both 1 & 2 ?

TomP

Yeah; quite a few people have told me in past years that after the tuneup, they were able to spin their tires. <a href="https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162251" target="newwin">Click here for all the details.</a>

Also check the tire pressure; you might be way underinflated. A 4500 clutch dump should certainly roast the tires (and hurt the clutch/trans too).

Doward

I disagree. I can whole-heartily spin the stick 255/50/16s on the back of the Camaro, with a 2.8 and T5 transmission.

Replace your clutch. I bet you're slipping like mad!

Spin? HA... full blown burnout as it revs to about 5k, catches, then a nice solid chirp as I nail second gear. It's wonderful.

Xophertony

doward.... i hate you. my engine was just rebuilt 10 k ago, it is actually proformance modified a little bit, my tire pressure is fine, and i have ****ty "roastable tires" AND a new clutch. i can't burn out. all i can do is a little spinn before gripping and taking off, thats with an almost clutch dump at 2.7-3.2 k i can drift kinda good though if i do a clutch kick!

TomP

Wow; you guys got heavy stereos or something? High rear gear ratios?

Doward

LOL! I really want to get a couple video clips of me doing a burnout... doing a donut... hey, doing anything I can with the car. Nothing wrong with a quick drift across 4 lanes at 3am, right?

Not that I'd know anything about that!

Seriously guys, a LOT of the percieved performance I get out of my car, is simply because I'm a really good driver, and know how to use the car to it's best! (No, I'm not trying to brag)

Skatepunk60

my car spins tires from a roll .. but i did a tune up and have 14" tires on a peg leg rear.. so maybe i should say it spins tire from a roll

Lee7

press on the brakes a little (so the fronts lock but the rears dont)

and then mash on the gas, you should be able to spin the tires... i can.

Ovrclck350

I wonder how many 700HP streetcar owners would PAY to have this problem.

Spinning does not equal traction.

No traction, no movement.

AGood2.8

Exactly. Mine wont spin no matter how hard I could try- And I hope it stays that way when I increase the HP.
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Edit: I should note that when this car had the stock driveline/rearend standard tires and completely stock motor- I could spin them fairly easy. I can now beat most across an intersection (MOST )

aaroedg

86 camaro
2.8l mpfi
50,000k on engine
dynomax catback
k&n filters
all new egnition ****, coil,distrib/cap/rotor, new wires/plugs
recently ran inj cleaner through it
running premium gas

with all new tires on the car,,,, i can smoke em fer like 10-15ft without the brakes from a stop in first, and if im rolling at 30-40km/h i can dump the clutch at 4k and spin em fer about 5 or 6 seconds b4 revs get to high and i shift to 3rd, cant even chirp third though.

i love this car but i might be going outa town to check used lots fer a 4th gen camaro/bird tomarow wish me luck,,, oh should i trade in my car or can i get more by selling private???

Xophertony

kelly blue book says:
trade in 1,125
private party 1,725

sell it, you could get 2k for it easy.

Xophertony

Thank you captain obvious, oh no, captain obvious, where is your cape and cowl; you don’t want to reveal your secret identity!!

92RSSlowmaro

A) I know my motor is weak But if my Dodge Stratus could do it, why not my camaro

B) I know a drop from 4500 is murder on my clutch. Thats why I only did it once.

You know whats odd though? I left this morning to take my G/F to work, and its alot colder this morning than it usually is around summer. I pull away from my house and catch rubber all the way through first and second.. hmm.

Anyways, checking out TomPs tuneup now

TomP

LOL, Xopher! That was why I had P255/70r15's on the back once, and then P275/60r15's on the back. One bummer about having so much traction though- if someone asks you to spin 'em, it takes a lot of work, and usually they won't spin.

Yet Another reason why I'm back on P245/60r15's! Screeeech! But only when I want to... with a powerbrake. Oh and it seems since the new shocks and springs in the back, sometimes I can scratch 2nd (automatic with B&M shift kit) if I floor it.

turboscott

I wish I had this problem. My little V6 spins my tires constantly. I can keep the car straight. It will spin them thru the first 3 gears. Why would you want to spin. If you are racing someone from a light you need traction.

92RSSlowmaro

Its not so much that I badly need to be able to bald my tires..

I was just curious why it wouldnt. It doesnt seem like clutch slippage.. cant you smell that? Besides I would notice clutch slip through the course of my daily driving.

Maybe I cant hear them spin over the sound of my muffler-less pipes

But the back of the car stays perfectly still, so...

BitchinRS

'92 3.1L with 250,000 miles. I can not only burn my tire up but I get some prety violent wheel shake. I would definetly look into a tune up!

Ovrclck350

2_point8_boy

>200,000 miles and crappy suspension(about to be redone) I can spin the tires for at least 20 ft. Mind you that through most of that the tires aren't actually touching the ground because of the wheel-hop caused by having the original day-one shocks still on there.

I can get them to spin in second, enough to the point that the back end fishtails a little, and chirp third. I'm sure that'll go away as soon as I get the suspension redone though.

Xophertony

ok, was playing on the way home from work lastnite. i can loose rubber in third if i want to. CLUTCH KICK DRIFTING kicks ***!!!!!

overclock- that is one of the more funny things i have seen.

everyone again - my sespension may be shot as well, is the sway bar suposed to be twice the thickness of a quarter? i have a theory, i think the owner before last put a big sway bar on it and never did anything else, so the sway bar beat the hell out of the rest of my suspension... anny thoughts?

Ovrclck350

IF you woulda wanted to be funny, this would have been appropriate:

TomP

Wow, thin sway bar! A quarter's only what, one millimeter thick? Is a 2mm sway bar even possible?

Get us the real measurement!!! Here's how... either put your $80 dial calipers on it, or, take an open-ended adjustable wrench and tighten it down on the center of the bar. Pull the wrench off (if you have to loosen it, just loosen it a very little bit) and hold it up against a metric ruler.

Remember that most rulers are inaccurate at the very end (0 millimeters or 0 inches) because the ends get worn down. Take your measurement starting at 1 centimeter.

This is how I try to find a 36 mm sway bar in the junkyards. I just set my adjustable wrench to the thickness of my current factory sway bar (34mm) and when I find an f-body, I just try to slide my wrench onto the middle of the front sway bar. If the wrench slides on, it's the same size or smaller then my stock bar. If the wrench won't slide on, it's the 36mm... but I haven't found one yet. It just looks much better if I swing an adjustable wrench around instead of my dial calipers. To me the calipers scream out "Hey if I have dial calipers in your junkyard that means you can overcharge me because you think I have tons of money even though I'm broke as hell". With the wrench I can say "my sway bar broke in half I think this one will fit will you take $10?"

Xophertony

i ment twice as thick as a quarter is tall. and i cant get under the car to do that cause the damn thing sits to low. i am going to go try to reach it with a wrench right now though, be back in a flash

Xophertony

all i have is a tape mesure, i can't figure out metric so in inches it is 1 and 1/2 inches thick, the hieght of a quarter and a half. damn thats thick

camaro_junkie

Sure sounds like clutch slippage to me. Drop the clutch at 4500, car doesn't move, tires don'e spin. I had that too. My clutch was down to the metal studs that hold the cluch plate material on.

2_point8_boy

from that picture, it looks like you have a 37mm bar. That meathod isn't 100% though, did you scrape all of the road crap off? If you did, you have exactly what TomP is looking for. Better be careful, he might hunt you down...:sillylol:

Xophertony

so thats good then right? ??? but will this big of a sway bar beat up on my other suspension components causing them to fail?