redraif

on the 1/8th mile track. Joe did some number crunching and that should put me in the 17s in the 1/4. With a bad timing chain and injectors.

Here's the #s off the slip: Excuse my bad reaction times. First time on the the track at night. And I had a full bladder. (No way I was using the restroom there)

Trip #1

RT: 1.170
60': 2.648
MPH: 59.66
ET: 11.615

Trip # 2

RT: 0.770
60': 2.578
MPH: 61.37
ET: 11.521


Below is a comparison run from last fall. This was the best run I had had on a 1/4 mile to this date. (Course this was with the backfire, exhaust leaks, a bad egr, bad distributor, and I'm sure the chain was already loose then.)

3rd pass (alone)
R/T .783
60’ 2.842
330 8.272
1/8 12.736
MPH 55.43
1000 16.562
¼ 19.813
MPH 69.50

Anyone know what the conversion is to get a 1/4 mile time from the 1/8 mile slip. I used my limited math memory and set up a prob and solved for X. It puts me in the high 17s. Not bad for a bad chain, eh?

Just wait till next weekend when its fixed and running right. I can't wait!

What cracks me up is the 1/4 mile mph versus the 1/8. I was almost running as fast in 1/2 the time. I would hate to compare my worst times. I'm probably going faster in the 1/8 now.

Gumby

oh geese, my opnion.
1/8 miles is lame, not even worth doing the math.

1/8 mile is for rice only.

LT1guy

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All the 5 and 6 second cars there were hardly rice...

Have you ever even run 1/8th mile? The best part of any drag race is the first 60 feet anyway.

CDN_87IROC

Yeah right .. that is why the NHRA racers shut it down after 60 ft.
The standard is 1/4 mile.

LT1guy

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No one said the standard wasn't quarter mile...but unfortunately there are only two 1/4 mile tracks here, and they don't run on weeknights. One is too far, and the other is jammed up with "ricers" who think its cool to drive through the burnout box and drip water everywhere.

1/8 mile is great for practicing, tuning, and having fun when a 1/4 mile track isn't available.

redraif

Thats how you get the ones that say they run 10s & 11s. They don't know there is such a thing as the 1/4 mile. :sillylol:

That's why I posted it that way...to be funny. OK...anyway.... I wanted to run somewhere before we started in the chain repairs and an 1/8 mile was the only option.

And there were some seriously fast cars out there. I can say I only saw 2-3 "ricers". So it was really more like 100 real cars to every "*****".

1/8 miles is lame, not even worth doing the math.

Hey at least I'm out there trying.

Gumby

1/8 mile is rice.

I love them dudes who run around town with 11 sec number on their window and dont realize how lame it is. We all know thats wimpy 1/8 mile times.

If anything I would raise it, not lower it. When it comes to street racing it usually 1/2 mile or longer. i would say by 1/2 to 3/4 mile is when the loser will give up trying.

Azure

For the love of christ, how the f*ck can a distance-measured drag track strip be equivilant to a dummards' pet name for people who tweak their vehicles' in an import fashion...?? Who knows WHAT'S next...."Man, I had to work an extra 3 hours overtime tonight, that is SO rice!"....

Gumby

Tell me how old you are and that will answer your question.

Drag racing has allways been 1/4 mile, only for the sake of rice did they come up with the 1/8 mile "drag racing"

real drag racing is 1/4 mile, real drag racing is 1/4 mile, real drag racing is 1/4 mile, real drag racing is 1/4 mile.

Azure

Q: For the love of christ, how the f*ck can a distance-measured drag track strip be equivilant to a dummards' pet name for people who tweak their vehicles' in an import fashion...??

A: 20 years old.


...?

eric17422001

Well on the east coast there are lots of eighth mile tracks. I would rather run on an eighth mile track than not run at all.
I have found you get more runs in on a test and tune night on my local 1/8 miler than I ever got on the 1/4 mile track in Florida I was closest to.

I am ten minutes from Savannah dragway, but at least a couple hours from the nearest 1/4 mile track. So I go with what I have.

Eric

funstick

i like the 1/8 mile its easier on the vintage 60's iron.

fly89gta

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1/8 is rice? um, ok

anyway I think the conversion is take your 1/8 mile and multiply it by 1.55.

Azure

Anything is rice if you don't think too hard about it....

Joe_L

Okay lets look at this from two views, before it gets locked down from stupidity.

1/8 is great too check your power band, you can see from just the 1/8th where your car is starting to loose its power, as well as where the best power is. So what I am saying is that the 1/8 is a way to keep in check with your power band.

Now from the rice perspective, yes ricers do run around town toting there 11's on their windows, but all they are doing is making fools of themselves. So its rice for that reason, but if you use it for the reason I stated above that, then its no longer a rice trap.

LT1guy

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I agree completely with the first part. The second part doesn't necesarily pertain to rice, though...lots of people do that, at least until they discover that leaving shoe polish on their glass for extended periods makes it nearly impossible to remove, and when you do get it off you have a nice ghost image every time the windows fog up! Only an idiot leaves the numbers on the car any longer than the trip home, whether they ran 1/8 or 1/4, and regardless of time.

LT1guy

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How old are you? I am 33, and have been drag racing for 17 years.

You have obviously stepped out of your area of expertise.
Sorry, drag racing has not always been 1/4 mile. 1/8 mile tracks were around long before rice , and will be around long after its gone. Heck some places have 1000 ft tracks. If I could drive to a quarter mile track after work, make 10 or 12 passes, and leave two hours later, I would, but I have never been able to do that at any 1/4 mile track. They're too busy with the pros.
1/8 mile racing is just as legit. The launch is the same, r/t is the same, 60 ft is the same, the only difference is that you let off the gas 660 ft sooner. Its funny, of the 2-300 cars at our local track last week, I only noticed two "ricers".

Still, I have a lot more respect for a "*****" that goes to the track than someone who doesn't go at all because its not "real" racing!

LT1guy

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Ok, they're lame. Whats your 1/4 mile time? I mean, this is the V6 board, unless you have a TTA your times are equally lame.

Raise it? Thats nuts. Real cars are going way too fast after 1/4 mile, much less 1/2 mile! Oh yeah, but thats how the street raced in the Fast and the Furious...gee, maybe the people that race those distances are ricers! Hell, everybody knows a ***** doesn't have sh*t down low, and can't run 1/8 mile anyway. They all want to start at 70, wait til the sane people have beat them and let off, then do the "***** flyby"! That's how they "win" races!

TomP

Gumby, it would only be rice if she didn't say it was the 1/8th mile.

1/8th isn't "rice", there have been 1/8th mile tracks long before the riceburner craze. Hell back in the early days, they didn't measure 1/4 mile time by speed, whoever had the fastest MPH won. 1/8 is a good tuning track, and all 1/4 timeslips show an 1/8th time. My last 1/8 mile was 10.818 seconds @ 63.75 mph, quarter was 17.039 @ 79.22 mph. So I can post that 1/8 time for Red to compare to hers.

LT1guy

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Thanks Tom, that is pretty much all we were looking for to begin with. She ran the 1/4 when the car had severe issues, so that time wasn't too good for comparison, and while I have run both 1/8th and 1/4 with my SS and use a conversion of 1.538 (always worked very well for me on my cars), I wasn't sure if the factor would be exactly the same on a much slower car. We'll see what it does with a new timing chain Sunday, at the GAFBA shootout (1/4).

redraif

Thanks Tom. How is it you always step up to the plate and help out. I really appreciate it. Its amazing how a question about the tuning of my car can so quickly become what this tread has. If people don't pick on the car, they have to find something in the post to go off on, go figure!

fly89gta, thanks for the conversion.

For the others who backed up on the 1/8 run thanks!

Xenodrgn

I ran 17.2 corrected with the same problems as you (timing chain going south, injectors that spray like a garden hose) plus an exhaust leak...

my friend ran 19.8 with a bent distrbutor, back PU coil, mundo exhaust leaks, bad injectors.... I honestly don't know how the car made it to the track in the condition it was in... though it did die the next day (distrib gave up the ghost)... he was in his 87 LT...

I'd say there are other issues there, unless your car wieghs substancially more due to all those "mods"...

LT1guy

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Weight isn't much of an issue...only 3400 or so with her in it. I agree that there are issues, but I'm not sure how much of it is the timing chain and injectors. The engine was rebuilt pretty shodily, so who knows. Mainly we just want to get it running the way it should while we finish gathering parts for the LT1 swap. Its more of a pride thing than anything else.

Kandied91z

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i don't even know why you two bother to post anything anymore....people just don't have much common sense or originality these days.

i think the 1/8 are harder, especially when running equally skilled drivers and built cars there's no time to catch up. then it all depends on the launch. either way drag racing is racing wether it's 1/8 or 1/4 it's all a hell of alot of fun.

pontiacguy1

Here in Southern Middle Tennessee, the nearest 1/4 mile drag strip is about 175 miles away. There are about 3 or 4 1/8th mile strips within an hours drive. One of them is about 25 minutes away.

Everyone that runs around here uses their 1/8th mile times, because that is all we have to compare with. I have seen hemi chargers, +500 cubic inch chevelles, built 455 Firebirds, blown Mustang 5.0s, and a new lightning with Rousch racing heads on it all running the 1/8 th. Lucky for them they didn't know how disgraceful they were being to the 'true' hot rodding tradition. I guess I just won't ever go race my car, so I won't be called a *****.....

devianb

When I read that redraif ran 11s I thought, "She must be finished with the V8 swap, but then I realized if she did the swap, she would have told us about it before. April Fools on me.

Azure

Gumby, where you at.....? Don't you want to kno the ages' of all the other people here who disagree with you as well...?

devianb

I'm 20 years old, and I am inclined to agree with Gumby. I don't think the 1/8 mile is lame though, but I don't care about it. I don't care what a car's g's or skidpad numbers are either. In terms of speed, I like top speed, 0-60, and 1/4 mile .

pontiacguy1

Everyone has their own opinion... and that is perfectly OK. This is America for cryin' out loud!

The problem that a lot of us have is when people start ******* out the legitimate stuff that other people are doing, just because it isn't what they like or would do. So you prefer the 1/4 mile, or top speed. That is great! Don't pooh-pooh somebody else that likes roadracing, slalom courses, or the 1/8th mile. I would actually prefer the 1/4 mile myself, but since the nearest track is in Memphis, I won't be going there any time soon to run a car.

I am 28 years old, and I have been working on cars and trucks since I was 12. I don't think that matters too much, but since everyone else is saying their ages, I figured why not.

fly89gta

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i guess i'll join in this conversation again,

To me the 1/8 doesn't mean ****, but if its the only track I have around by all means i'd run there, i'm fortunate enough to have 4 1/4 mile track within an hour to an hour and a half of me. Whoever wants to run in the 1/8 by all means do so, doesn't make them any less of a person or doesn't mean their car is any slower...so cut the

oh yeah i'm 22

Azure

lol, the age check was just a joke....interesting nonetheless.

redraif

Well for the sake of it being interesting...I'm 28.

FyreLance

19.

Think it's ridiculous to go out of your way to find things to nitpick about Redraif. It's like a daily thing now.

"1/8 mile is rice" is about the most moronic thing I've ever heard... :sillylol:

Xenodrgn

I was reserving this, but since I've gotten on the v6'ers bad side lately cause I'm junkpiling the lethargic engine for a real one... I might as well express _my opinions_

1/8th mile is useless... Anyone can put in the tallest gears and the stickest tires possible and run the 1/8th for times... Of course that car will tap the rev limiter 5 feet beyond the line because those tall *** gears allow the car to run through 3 gears in an 1/8th of a mile...

Take that same car and put it on a 1/4 mile strip, and yeah it'll be fast, but not nearly as fast as a car tuned to be realistic...

1/8th mile is fine for cars that are built for it, strickly race cars built for it... in street and street strip applications it is useless...

1/4 mile is the standard for street/strip racing, it's a practical distance...

1/2 mile warrants no creation... what ricers don't undersand is that E/T means nothing to someone who actually KNOWs racing... you can have a TT Supra that runs 13's... everyone thinks that car is slow... of course what they never bother to find out is that the car is crossing the line at 180 miles an hour... If ricers got beyond the E/T frenzy, and realized it's about combined time and speed, and started maturing when it comes to strip racing... there would be no need to bitch and complain... they can say thier times and not worry about being flamed because thier retard friends don't know jack...

To restate, 1/4 mile is standard, period. The only thing 1/8 mile tracks are good for is to see how bad your short times are, and to test for 1/4 mile races...

Brian K

Who cares a race is a race..... 1/8th mile, 1 block, a light to a light, a win is a win and a loss is a loss...


Red, the timming chain will make a drastric change. I know when I did mine with a cyoles double roller it was drastic...


Also keep the faith, 16.01 is easy to get to....

devianb

I'm not ******* the 1/8 mile at all, I just said I don't like to use it as a means of speed measurement. If an 1/8 of a mile is all you have then by all means use it. I like road racing, and I find it very entertaining. Drag racing is alright if you only like going in a straight line. At least in road racing, a low horsepower car has a chance of keeping up if it can corner well.

redraif

Well just to reiterate...

We used the 1/8 mile track because I wanted to see where the car was before we changed the chain. The nearest 1/4 mile was way to far away to get to and still get in any runs after work. We are going to the 1/4 mile track this weekend, but the chain will be changed by then. All I wanted was some way to see how the car was running properly tuned, but with a bad chain and bad injectors.

In fact, I have cleaned and blueprinted injectors on the way. Hopefully they will be here today. The car is apart and the chain will be going in tomorrow or Thursday. Joe is on a Business trip today and I'm not gutsy enough to do a swap I have never done before by myself.

So my point in running the 1/8....to test and tune. Seriously you guys, the point should be that I'm making the effort to get out there and make the car the best it can be. It should not matter what kind of track I'm going to.

Oh and for those interested...once the car is tuned and running right, I will be branching into autocrossing.

FyreLance

It's fine that everyone has their own opinion on the usefulness of the 1/8 mile, I just think calling it "rice" is stupid.

Autocrossing! Cool! I plan on doing some AutoX after winter.

my91rs

Well Red........I m just about the same age as your man. I m 30 and I live about 15 minutes from a 1/8 mile track. So as soon as I get my 3.4 built . I ll be heading over there too see what kind of times I can run. And like someone said its closer for some of us to run 1/8 instead of 1/4.

Dale

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I throw my .02 cents in.

All I have around me are 1000 ft, no 1/8 or 1/4's that I know off

I have no time slips of my driving. My s10 I was told buy the prev owner ran 13's on 125 shot of nos on that 1000 ft. I am unsure. I have add mods since

I would like to here the stats of that new timing chain. I am planing mine in a few weeks.

Once I get it running right, and get the $, I am gonna give my first shot at any racing this fall/winter.

BTW, just turned 27