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Old 04-14-2002, 07:33 PM
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Turbo!!!!!!!

HELLO, I was wondering if you guys could tell me what i have to do to turbocharge my 1992 3.1L rs camaro. I dont know anything about turbo or how it works but i wanna make my car faster, im going to begin building up a 350 for my car real soon, and i want to make my 3.1 faster. when i drop my 350 into my 92 rs im going to drop the 3.1 with turbo into my 88 camaro, so if you guys could help me out, i need a list of all the parts i need, and where to find the parts and or what their off of, thanks jerry

p.s. my car has a new crank in it, and i have a K&N air filter, no cat converter, dynomax superturbo exhaust, a new thermostat, i think its a 195, i plan on boring it out also, and i dont know what cam to put it in
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camaro hunter D will probably jump up to help you out in a few minutes or so. You're not the only turbo project on the board right now, i think there are two or three others going on also. I'm not totally sure on the list of parts that'll be needed so i'll try to avoid any huge details there and let someone else get to them. You should know of course that there are no turbo kits available for a RWD 2.8/3.1L v6 although there are a couple that are made for fieros. You'd need to get the turbo, have custom work done on the exaust side to make the turbo up to the exaust, custom intake work, dial a boost, and timing retard, there's more i just can't think. And on the stock block, i'd say 10lbs of boost max. Good luck.
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so do they make turbo's or SC for the 3.4? j/w.
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they dont make either for 2.8, 3.1, or 3.4's, the motors are all almost the same, a turbo would have to be custom made for each and would be interchangable
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When you accept you are adapting/creating a turbo set up to a 60* V-6, you're 1/2 way there.
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(Sigh) With all these "how can I turbo it?" questions lately, I'm waiting for the questions on "how do I put this gaudy side decal down my door and onto my 30 pound spoiler?"

Why is it you hardly ever see v8'ers asking this turbo question?
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Originally posted by TomP


Why is it you hardly ever see v8'ers asking this turbo question?
Cause we dont need turbos. LOL, welllll...maybe a 305. J/k guys. You cant ask a question on "how can I turbo my car" its more than just a bolt on. But Im sure Camaro Hunter will tell you how to bolt on a 65psi turbo system using a mid 80's style Benz turbo. :sillylol:
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I'll do a variation on monkies' answer:

'cause they already have supercharger kits out there for the 8s. the manufacturers just think that if you have a V8, you wanna go faster. If you have a 6, & if it aint a turbo buick, then f**k em, if they wanted to go faster, thet shoulda gotten the V8 & then bought our kit.

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i dont want turbo or s/c i was just wondering, i would rather have NOS than turbo...
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either way ur gonna kill ur engine unless its seriously built up...

yeah lot of ppl lately asking how to put a turbo in the v6's

i wonder why?
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Originally posted by TomP
Why is it you hardly ever see v8'ers asking this turbo question?
cuz they make kits for the v8 cars.. there is no guess work involded.. goto almost any turbo, sc manufactures page and u can get then almost $1k

http://mods.firebirdv6.com/forcedinductionguide.html goto that site if u have any questions on parts of a forced induction system

www.procharger.com

www.vortechsuperchargers.com

www.powerdyne.com

www.paxtonauto.com

Vector Performance/Powerdyne kit for 1995-1997 3.8
To this day the only official kit marketed by a company, the Vector supercharger provides dyno-proven gains. The kit uses a Powerdyne supercharger (non-intercooled) and was designed and put together by Vector Performance, a race shop in California. Vector buys the Powerdyne supercharger head units, puts all the parts you need for the kit into a box, and sends that box off to various distributors. Price is usually in the mid $3,500 range. It comes with a 6 psi pulley but a 9 psi upgrade can be purchased seperately. In order to fit the 3.8, Vector mounted the supercharger backwards and spin it's pulley off the flat side of the serpentine belt. The kit is listed as only fitting 95-97 L36 3.8 models but it can be adapted to fit a 98-02 model. Gains at 9 psi are dyno-proven to equal 90-100 rwhp on a stock engine. This kit is a great all-around setup providing a strong power gain at a reasonable price, with no guesswork about fitment. Unfortunately, Vector Performance has gone out of business and it is unknown if any new kits will ever be produced. There are, however, quite a few kits still floating around at various performance part distributors if you can find them
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See the latest issue of Car Craft for a Turbo V-8 set up, custom.
Pic is as big as 8x10
Chop off two pipes, one per side & it's our V-6!
Open your wallets.

Swap in a 3.4 & just have fun!
Do the 2.8->3.4 Long Block Swap Boogie!
I'm gonna do it now to my 1985 S-10 Blazer, 2-bbl & headers (I hope to find cheap! at swap meets).
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Originally posted by loomdog32
cuz they make kits for the v8 cars.. there is no guess work involded.. goto almost any turbo, sc manufactures page and u can get then almost $1k
Ah, but notice, you mentioned ALL supercharger kits! My point was that it's very rare to see a V8'er mentioning TURBO. Supercharge, yeah, but not Turbo. So why are all the V6'ers "into" getting a turbo?
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probably has something to do when v6 boyz are looking for someone to look up to. lol...i know it sounds funny but think about it, when a v8 guy is looking at what he wants to make his car into he pictures this huge blower sitting atop dual carberators and stacked above that is this huge airscoop with 3 throaty vents opening in syncrination with the carbs.

Now, take a look a v6 guy, it's difficult to find a v6 performance king out there, so once the "ricers" are eliminated you have what....a Buick 3.8L equipped the a Garrett T3 Turbo. Now....that cars a rocketship, so the V6 guy thinks to himself, well if a 3.8L could produce around eh...350hp on that stock motor from the factor, i'm sure i could pull out about 250-300 which isn't a bad number. Just something to look up to, the big difference between us 2.8/3.1 is that we don't have a huge manufacturing cooperation behind us backing the design of a turbo setup. in my personal opinion a supercharger would be much simpliar, and only using say 6 lbs of boost, would create some HP gains, intercool it and you'd really roll, and the best part is that it won't hurt the motor. I'm thinking i might end up pushing that way...but we'll see, only time will tell.
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a supercharger would probly be easier for 87 (yr ?) & up engines w/just the serp belt.

as for manufacturers for turbo kits, Gale Banks & Calloway.
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Well after tearing the exhaust housing off to do better inspection. Disaster. The outter edges are ripped to shreads. No biggie. New idea. Mill the torn up turbine down smooth and press a gear/pully onto the shaft and whoops it becomes a centrifugal S/C. That takes up ALOT less routing headaches and alot easier to install. I can actually get the other parts ready and install it over a week end basically. So now I am on the hunt for a good machine shop and looking for some other parts for the "now Centrifugal S/C"
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