700r4
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
700r4
I need some help with my cars trans it's a 700r4 the case has MD8 marked on the passenger side the smaller imput shaft is 30spline the bigger spline on the shaft is a 27spline and the output shaft is a 27 spline I'm looking for a rebuild kit for my trans and some say for 27spline only or 30spline only which spline count do I use this is my first trans rebuild iv ever attempted so I will have a lot of noobish questions oh the trans ID number is 7YPM159B
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From: North Salt Lake
Car: '86 Camaro, '94 Camaro, 3 others
Engine: LG4 ->L29, L32->LR4, L36, LG4, L31
Transmission: 700R-4, T5WC, 4L80E, SM465, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, WTB/WTT 2.93
Re: 700r4
If the counts are correct then an older one has been swapped in. There is a date code stamped into the passenger side of the case, just above the pan, toward the rear. 27-spline inputs aren't worth rebuilding. And you go by the larger part of the input.
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From: North Salt Lake
Car: '86 Camaro, '94 Camaro, 3 others
Engine: LG4 ->L29, L32->LR4, L36, LG4, L31
Transmission: 700R-4, T5WC, 4L80E, SM465, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, WTB/WTT 2.93
Re: 700r4
Drop the pan, look for the auxillary valve body. If it's not there, find another trans. Save your tailhousing and your speedometer gears, your governor and your throttle valve cable. This way your replacement can be from a Caprice, a C1500, or whatever else.
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
This is the number from the trans is 7YPM159B and from what I be able to find its a 1987trans and ill post a pic of the tranny
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
this is what im talking about for the bigger and smaller splines
Also I found the best tools for working on these cars ratchet wise are the craftsman pass trough ratchets the head is slimmer and made it less pain in the a** removing the tranny
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From: Ottawa
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: Twin turbo L31 HSR
Transmission: 700R4 w ProBuilt
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 4.11
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From: Clearwater , Florida
Car: '87 Vette C4
Engine: 400 + .040 = 409 ci
Transmission: 700R4 built
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 w/3.42's
Re: 700r4
The trans in the pics is the later design auxiliary valve body trans ... external indicator is the "cam lobe " casting line on the pass side by the servo and cooler lines ... with the pan off the most visible indicator is the pipe that feeds oil from the pump to the aux valve body at the rear of the trans ...........
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Re: 700r4
That is a 30 spline input shaft. Take a micrometer or calipers to asure yourself that it is a 30 spline input shaft. The shaft diameter will be .990" +/- .005". The 27 spline shaft will be .890" +/- .005". Remember it is the shaft that turns you are looking to check out here.
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
That's all I Had was 1st and reverse I called and asked everywhere and I was told by everyone I needed to pull trans and rebuild it. Iv already ordered my new gear ill post a pic of the old I'm still going to go through the trans and make sure everything is good and doing new gaskets
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Re: 700r4
Usually they wear into an apple core shape. At which time they no longer engage the gear on the output shaft.
I've never seen one that actually had the teeth break off. Wonder if something got caught in the teeth to cause them to break.
See what's in the pan, may provide a clue.
RBob.
I've never seen one that actually had the teeth break off. Wonder if something got caught in the teeth to cause them to break.
See what's in the pan, may provide a clue.
RBob.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: 700r4
Maybe someone pulled it strait out not letting the governor rotate while pulling it out.
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
Usually they wear into an apple core shape. At which time they no longer engage the gear on the output shaft.
I've never seen one that actually had the teeth break off. Wonder if something got caught in the teeth to cause them to break.
See what's in the pan, may provide a clue.
RBob.
I've never seen one that actually had the teeth break off. Wonder if something got caught in the teeth to cause them to break.
See what's in the pan, may provide a clue.
RBob.
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
I can't be 100% sure I bought the car with the trans the way it was the car had 66k original miles on it. it was my first car and other stuff came up and all I got a motorcycle and just now getting around to the car a year later. But the good thing is the car had all new fluids,brakes and tires put in oh and t-top seals
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From: Jacksonville,fl
Car: 1987 camaro
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: 700r4
But guys thanks for all your imput and help alotta people don't give credit where it's due and the site has helped me out on so many things i wouldn't have been able to figure out on my own
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