armygreen87

Maybe its Stretch But I Think It Would Be Awesome To Convert My Iroc To AWD....Is This Possible And Has Anyone Done It? If So, Id Like To Know What They Did, What All They Had To swap Out, Etc. I Know It's One Hell Of A Project....

jwfirebird

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first thing that comes to mind is the astro van, some had awd and the 4.3 so any v-8 should work. dont know anything else though

jwfirebird

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the trail blazer ss has it as well but second thought is the autotracs are kinda designed for snow and such so they engage when the rear starts slipping which wouldnt be good for a street car setup it would put a lot of stress on it. so you would have to figure out how to control it yourself so you can engage it before you hit the gas

Base91

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I think it's been done and there's a picture on the board somewhere. Looked like someone just got an AWD chassis and dropped the 3rd gen on it. Can't remember anything else about it.

92RS_Ttop

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There are a few camaros near me that have been mounted on a blazer or S10 frame with the 4x4 drivetrain. Not really sure if that's what you're referring to, but it looks like hell IMHO.

armygreen87

I Don't Want It A Tall As A Pickup, I Want It To Look Normal. Someone Mentioned To Me Once That I Could Get A Frame From An Old comet But I'm sure There's More Out There That Could Be Fitted Somehow

armygreen87

Last post Was In Reply To The S10 Thing, Just Saw The Other Posts. Thanks, This Helps Out Guys

jmd

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Compare a 2WD S10 or Astro to a 4WD S10 or Astro. There is a lot different.

The oil pans and diff / axle clearance are done differently yet on the Trailblazer.

joshc

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I don't see there being room under a 3rd gen for a transfer case and front differential.

actarnoff

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You're going to have to build a whole new car.

Dakota W.

I thought about pushing the firewall back and putting a lamborghini V12 with the AWD transmission that bolts to the bottom of the V12 into my Z28, but the cost would be ridiculous.

Actually, extending the front chassis about a foot would give you enough room to run a transfer case, wouldn't it? You'd need custom fenders and hood to make it look right though.

T/Aperformance

Why not look into the chevy cyclone or typhoon (S10 based), The transfer case should hold up to the power
And yes you would have to redo your floor pan to make the transfer case fit, If I were to do something like this I would cut out the front frame rails , Floor pan and weld in a the front half frame and front diff suspension from a cyclone,but keep the stock rear half and suspension to your car or do a c4 corvette rear,

jwfirebird

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thinking about it more you would have to do it that way your engine and frame are in the way. you would have to use the front frame and everything from the donor and i think it would end up a little taller.

88fastgta

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buy a 4x4 truck.... why in the world would you do that to a Camaro...

jwfirebird

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if you could pull it off it could be really fast like a wrx but have street tires. you would surprise a lot of people on the street

carattini

Buy a GTR and Swap Bodys. Jaja

armygreen87

GTR Real Expensive But A Sweet Car LoL If I Had Unlimited Funds I Would. Yeah I Don't Want 4X4, Like Jwfirebird Said It Would Be Fast...Think Of How Much quicker Since The Front Wheels Don't Have To Wait For A Push From The Rear, Takeoff Is Much Better. I Have Seen Pictures Of 4X4 Camaros Lifted, Looks Ridiculous

carattini

Since the born of the GTR I've always had this crazy idea in my head that if I had money to throw away I would try to make a Third Gen a GTR would be just grate have the Wright technology with the Wright body

actarnoff

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You're going to need GT-R money to get this project done, you may as well get one. 3rd gens were designed to be rear wheel drive cars, and perform the best as rear wheel drive cars.

Dakota W.

Learn to think outside the box.

actarnoff

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Alright, champ.

krisner89

awd with a v8. no way to keep the camaro's stance low. front axle would be under oil pan(which is inches from the ground already). No room for that in a camaro. Maybe get a wrecked subaru that's been rear ended. Put the engine and everything in the camaro. Then you'd have an Jap powered camaro. That one movie Fast and Furious tokyo drift did something like that to that mustang

krisner89

A cyclone sits low for a truck but would lift a camaro for sure. I dont think that would work. There to rare and expensive to cut up anyway

jmd

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A Syclone isn't needed and other than the turbo specific stuff, isn't rare on a parts basis.

4x4 S10 has the same front end parts. The lower stance is probably just different torsion bars. The transfer case is AWD (from an Astro) versus the 4WD one from an S10.

Again, if you haven't checked out a 2WD S10 next to a 4WD S10 to see how much different they are, you need to.

jwfirebird

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seems easier and tougher to use a full size front diff and tc and shafts, hubs. the ones ive seen on trailblazers and that are like a weird part of the engine. if you use the full size stuff you could sneek some room by offsetting it forward and setting the engine back

krisner89

1. Didn't say "rare on a parts basis". It would be rare to get a donor truck. Don't be a jackass and twist my words around.

krisner89

Who said 2wd and 4wd s10s are the same. Maybe you need to read better

rob2000gt

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I have a typhoon I just looked under it and there is no way it would work and look good. The torsion bars go from control arms to behind the front seats. There is no room for the transfer case. So you would need most of the frame which is tall and would almost drag on the ground at stock height for a f body. I also have a Saturn vue awd that does not have a full frame which would fit under a f body then you can figure out how to get your engine sideways or do the 4 cyl turbo swap. The 3.5 Honda drive train that came in my vue has power you could turbo that or do the 4 cyl turbo swap some guys on here did.

kmcn47

never saw that, seen alot of threads like this, couple new ones every year, i guess the search function is still broken, that or noone ever uses it

exactly
yupp

i have a friend i periodically talk to about his performance vehicles hes had 2 typhoons and a syclone, transmission trouble has been the end of them all, he currently has a typhoon sitting disused for the last 5 years because he can't find a way to make the trans and transfer case hold up to the 400 or so hp hes making

thats a pretty good point, that and look at any of the really well known awd or 4wd cars out there thay are al substantially taller and wider then a thirdgen, it just wont fit

since when is a wrx fast? theyre quick sure but there is ALWAYS a faster car

well youre not in the states you can say that, do you know how hard it is to get any gtr in the states? even the new ones are expensive and pretty much a paperwork nightmare anything but the new ones a few r33s some of the rarer r32s are totally illegal anyway, that said it'd still be easier to get one then an awd 3rd gen, and why awd anyway? for better handling? let me tell you there isn't a whole lot out there with better handling then these (some) 30 year old cars especially if you do some susp mods

jwfirebird

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modded wrx's ive seen at the track in the 10-11 second range are all on street tires. try to do that with rwd firebird, i suppose its possible but you would need very expensive suspension and the best drag radials. and on the street it would just blow off the tires

jmd

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My point (better spelled out this time ) is if an S-series were to be used as a parts or design donor, it can be nearly any 4WD model, as the only drivetrain part in the Sy/Ty unique to them (not used in the other 4x4 S-trucks) is the Astro AWD transfer case.

Your comment the Cyclone(sic) is too rare to cut up might lead one to believe it's a necessary donor and it's not.

I sure didn't. I had intended to indicate that there are a lot of differences and those looking into this complex a swap should check them out.

And you can remove the idler gear from your **** anytime.