Ring Gear Marking Advice
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Ring Gear Marking Advice
Installing new gears, is this good enough or should I move the pinion ???
I set the pinion depth and backlash to Richmond specs, -0.001 for pinion depth (pinion etched 2.316 actual is 2.315) and +0.002 on the backlash (ring gear etched 0.010 actual is 0.012)
I set the pinion depth and backlash to Richmond specs, -0.001 for pinion depth (pinion etched 2.316 actual is 2.315) and +0.002 on the backlash (ring gear etched 0.010 actual is 0.012)
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
no thats improper, the pattersn want to be more centered, your pinion is too deep
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
Thanks guys, I think when 86TA said "too deep" he meant "too deep into the housing", not too deep into the mesh... but I could be wrong. Either way I will try adding some pinion shims and see what happens.
Is there some type of constant or ratio between pinion depth and backlash... by that I mean if I place the pinion 0.007 deeper into the mesh I should also end up decreasing backlash (if I keep the carrier shims the same). I just figured that there must be some kind of ratio (like 0.003 pinion depth changes backlash 0.001 or something like that)
Thanks again for your help
Is there some type of constant or ratio between pinion depth and backlash... by that I mean if I place the pinion 0.007 deeper into the mesh I should also end up decreasing backlash (if I keep the carrier shims the same). I just figured that there must be some kind of ratio (like 0.003 pinion depth changes backlash 0.001 or something like that)
Thanks again for your help
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
Each rear end is different. There might be a ratio for the 7.5, but I don't try to keep up with that. I just reset it each time I change the pinion depth.
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That is much better. I would like to see the others that you had so I could tell how the pattern moved with different shims, but you shoudl be able to run that without any problems. You might try adjusting the backlash slightly in both directions to see if the coast side pattern spreads out a little more. Don't go outside of the recommended specs for the backlash.
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
I have 7 pictures from different combinations I tried;
Left Carrier Shim = 0.226
Right Carrier Shim = 0.237
Pinion Shim = 0.035
Backlash = 0.0085
Left Carrier Shim = 0.226
Right Carrier Shim = 0.237
Pinion Shim = 0.032
Backlash = 0.010
Left Carrier Shim = 0.232
Right Carrier Shim = 0.240
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.008
Left Carrier Shim = 0.232
Right Carrier Shim = 0.240
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.012
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.032
Backlash = 0.003
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.029
Backlash = 0.005
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.0075
Left Carrier Shim = 0.226
Right Carrier Shim = 0.237
Pinion Shim = 0.035
Backlash = 0.0085
Left Carrier Shim = 0.226
Right Carrier Shim = 0.237
Pinion Shim = 0.032
Backlash = 0.010
Left Carrier Shim = 0.232
Right Carrier Shim = 0.240
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.008
Left Carrier Shim = 0.232
Right Carrier Shim = 0.240
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.012
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.032
Backlash = 0.003
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.029
Backlash = 0.005
Left Carrier Shim = 0.237
Right Carrier Shim = 0.226
Pinion Shim = 0.024
Backlash = 0.0075
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
0.035 Pinion Shim, I ended up with just over 0.010 to just under 0.011 backlash (measuring different spots around the ring gear) with 0.005 preload on each side of the carrier. The mark on the ring gear called for 0.010.
I buttoned it all up, using crush sleeve on pinion with 25 in/lb and all new bearings etc... Then I put the axles in and set the E-brake for a little drag and this is what the final pattern looked like... I think I'm going to put fluid in and start the break in, what do you think?
I buttoned it all up, using crush sleeve on pinion with 25 in/lb and all new bearings etc... Then I put the axles in and set the E-brake for a little drag and this is what the final pattern looked like... I think I'm going to put fluid in and start the break in, what do you think?
Last edited by TunedPort350; 07-25-2010 at 10:41 AM.
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Re: Ring Gear Marking Advice
I think it will be fine. The drive pattern looks pretty good. The coast pattern isn't quite as good, but probably good enough. I think the .035 pinion shim was the correct choice.
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