How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
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How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
I have a non posi-traction rearend and i heard from my buddy that you can add a coil or something for like $100 that will allow that rearend to become a positraction rearend any answers to this? bogus or not?
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
when i was a kid the rumor was you could back up and lock a stock rearend and then you got two wheels with power when you hit it off the line. i never saw that work, and i never heard of what you said either.
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That's not true. You can do something similar to the 9 inch Ford, but it doesn't work very well for GM rear ends. The easiest thing to do is install a Lock Right. I prefer the Eaton posi.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
The only thing that cheap would be a spool off of ebay. And there not too fun on the street.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
lie said a few posts above, the only thing you can buy for less than a hundred bux is a mini spool, that will lock the two axles together permentatly. Not a good idea for street use.
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Welding the differential gears can be very dangerous. The gears are heat treated and welding them can make them brittle. If an axle gear breaks then the c clip can fall off and the axle can come out while you are driving. That is why the NHRA and others have banned this.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
Welding the differential gears can be very dangerous. The gears are heat treated and welding them can make them brittle. If an axle gear breaks then the c clip can fall off and the axle can come out while you are driving. That is why the NHRA and others have banned this.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
But then you have to worry about the wheel offset difference. Thats a little more money. Cheapest bet is to get a 3rd gen rear with posi. 200-250 bucks.
Finding a posi, at least 150 bucks+install is going to be close to 500 bucks.
I have a spool in my car, and its not bad on the road with the right tires, but at slow speeds its a pain in the ***.
Finding a posi, at least 150 bucks+install is going to be close to 500 bucks.
I have a spool in my car, and its not bad on the road with the right tires, but at slow speeds its a pain in the ***.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
ok well my dad said something about a 411 rearend or something of that sort and its suppose to be BADA$$ any input?
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
powertrax locker
it replaces the open differential internals with a locking type setup which will instantly turn your open rear into a posi...full lock in straight line, but it will open up around corners so the outer wheel can spin faster
http://www.jegs.com/i/Powertrax/754/...-2805/10002/-1
BUT cheaper to buy a posi diff
it replaces the open differential internals with a locking type setup which will instantly turn your open rear into a posi...full lock in straight line, but it will open up around corners so the outer wheel can spin faster
http://www.jegs.com/i/Powertrax/754/...-2805/10002/-1
BUT cheaper to buy a posi diff
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
i dont do any highway driving.... so the 4.11s rearend would be good?
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
you should match the gear to the motor combo. Mainly 1/4 mile performance or else you'll run out of gear before you hit good speed. 4.11's are good for high revving motors. If you dont have enough rpm to make 4.11's worth it, your overgeared and will hurt performance. It will get to 60 quick but after that your out of gear. A car like that isnt to fun.
But posi is and you should upgrade to a posi diff and match gear to your combo
But posi is and you should upgrade to a posi diff and match gear to your combo
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
i just wanna be able to leave 2 stripes instead of 1 on the road lol makes me feel like a riceburner
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Do you know anything about the rear end in your car? Do you know the gear ratio? If you want something quick and easy then go with the Lock Right. If you want a gear change then the Lock Right isn't going to be any easier for you because the backlash is going to have to be set again anyway. The Eaton posi would be the way to go if you also change the gears.
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
its got the stock gears in it....so i mean if i buy a new rearend why not get some better performance gears you know....
any websites for that eaton?
any websites for that eaton?
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http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc...ucts/index.htm
I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I've got a 9 bolt with 3.27 gears and posi for sale.
I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I've got a 9 bolt with 3.27 gears and posi for sale.
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I put a mini spool in mine, I will never never never do that again! Around town its only mildly annoying, but getting in and out of parking areas is a pain, It makes bad noises, and in the rain it's flat out deadly. 1. suggestion, DON'T EVER PUT A SPOOL IN A STREET CAR! you'll die.
For gears you could run 383s, there kinda a nice middle ground between way low like 411s and your stock high gears
For gears you could run 383s, there kinda a nice middle ground between way low like 411s and your stock high gears
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Re: How to get posi-traction from a non posi traction rearend
spools aren't that bad, as long as your careful. I've had them in two pickup trucks, my ta, and impala and my bronco. I also have a friend that has full spool in his chevelle, and we live in a very mountainous region, they are all right. However, if you are looking for a quality route I think that an eaton posi with a set of richmond gears would make you happy. Like blp 22 said, they aren't fun in the rain or parking spots, but it is all preference.
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I ALSO WANT TO MAKE MY 1987 CHEVY MONTE CARLO POSI TRACTION, PLEASE HELP ME, IM TRYING TO BUILD A BEAST BUT STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE IT ON THE STREET DAILY, ANY TIPS, ONLY ONE TIRE SPINS, I WANT BOTH TO SPIN WHEN I BURN OUT AND WILL THIS GIVE ME MORE HORSES OR TORQUE, NOT TRYING TO SOUND DUMB BUT I JUST WANT POWER AND A GOOD SHOW
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Probably be best if you started a new thread. This one is going on 8 years old. Also, please turn off caps.
Your Monte Carlo uses the same 7.5 10 bolt as the 3rd gen, so the same things apply. Check the "FAQ about 10-bolts" sticky. It has everything that you need to know about the 7.5 10 bolt.
Your Monte Carlo uses the same 7.5 10 bolt as the 3rd gen, so the same things apply. Check the "FAQ about 10-bolts" sticky. It has everything that you need to know about the 7.5 10 bolt.
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