clutch fork diagnosis
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clutch fork diagnosis
Just wondering if this kind of wear on the clutch fork fingers means that it needs to be replaced, or can it still be used. Could there be any negative effects if used like this??
I called GM and it is discontinued.
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I called GM and it is discontinued.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
It looks like a lack of lubrication. I wouldn't re-use a fork with this kind of wear. It will allow slop in the linkage. What's the fork for?
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
What's the fork for?
What's the fork for?
I don't know how it happened as I thought the release bearing housing (where the fork rides) never turns.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
I meant what car is it for.
The throwout bearing rotates, which is undoubtedly what caused the wear.
The throwout bearing rotates, which is undoubtedly what caused the wear.
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
You could take it to a welding shop and have them build it up a little and then resurface it.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Yeah, that shouldn't be too hard. Is this for a 3rd gen though? If it is thenit should be an easy fork to get. It's probably cheaper to just get a new one.
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
I meant what car is it for.
I meant what car is it for.
The throwout bearing rotates, which is undoubtedly what caused the wear.
It's probably cheaper to just get a new one.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Yeah, the 2.8 fork is discontinued. That's why I was suprised, I thought you had a V8 one, and they are still available.
I would say your best bet is to get it built up with weld and re-machined. That will fix it.
In theory the outer sleeve stays put on the fork, because it's locked in with the spring tabs. This wear may be more from moving back and forth than from rotation.
I would check the rear bearing retainer of the trans. It's a T5, and nearly every one I've seen lately has a trashed bearing retainer. They retainer gets scored where the throwout bearing rides, and it binds up. You won't even notice it with the hydraulic linkage, but damage is being done. I'll bet that this was an accomplice in damaging the fork. They are $45 new, and are still available. Cheap insurance.
I would say your best bet is to get it built up with weld and re-machined. That will fix it.
In theory the outer sleeve stays put on the fork, because it's locked in with the spring tabs. This wear may be more from moving back and forth than from rotation.
I would check the rear bearing retainer of the trans. It's a T5, and nearly every one I've seen lately has a trashed bearing retainer. They retainer gets scored where the throwout bearing rides, and it binds up. You won't even notice it with the hydraulic linkage, but damage is being done. I'll bet that this was an accomplice in damaging the fork. They are $45 new, and are still available. Cheap insurance.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
How many miles are on the car? Could just be normal wear and tear. The throwout bearign hanging up on the rear bearing retainer could cause it too. Like I said, check that out.
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120K miles on the car. It seems to slide pretty good on the retainer. There are tarnished marks on the retainer but no grooves or anything like that. THe bearing does not feel sloppy on it either.
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Oh, that explains it then. I'd say that's normal for that kind of milage. Typically when I do a clutch in a car with that kind of milage I replace the disc, p.plate, TO bearing, pilot bearing or bushing, ball stud (if equipped), and clutch fork. I also surface the flywheel. It all usually needs it by 100,000+
The wear only looks to be a few hundreths of an inch deep, so I don't think it will cause a major problem. The issue is that in another 100,000 or so it will be worn down that much more, and eventually you'll have some kind of problem with it.
The wear only looks to be a few hundreths of an inch deep, so I don't think it will cause a major problem. The issue is that in another 100,000 or so it will be worn down that much more, and eventually you'll have some kind of problem with it.
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