GofasterFirebird

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I am not concerned with passing tech. Look at my sig for my mods. I hope to get into the high 10s with the bottle. I am just concerned with my safety and that of my passengers. I have an SFI flywheel also. I know NHRA rules say I must have one, but what are your opinions?

Petes 84Z28

I think that statement answers your own question. NHRA rules are in place for a reason, not just on a whim.

Pete

AlkyIROC

You need an SFI flywheel, clutch and bellhousing at 11.99 and quicker. A stock cast iron clutch and flywheel can become a grenade under high HP.

I've seen automatic tranny parts go through SFI safety equipment also. A clutch hub went through the case, Kevlar blanket, floor on the passenger side, off the door bar, through the door and sail about 300 feet over the grandstand into a truck windshield. This was in a 2500 HP Top Alcohol car. Nobody was hurt but if the clutch hub went out on the drivers side of the floor it would probably have cut the drivers legs off.

When a clutch or flywheel explode, the parts are bigger and can do more damage.

RU-QWIK

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This is a case where the old saying holds true.... "It is better to be safe than sorry".

GofasterFirebird

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I am aware of the dangers of the explosion. I dont not have a stock clutch or flywheel. What are you guys running? Sheilds? Blankets? Is there even an option for a t-5 bellhousing?

Schultzy89GTA

Lakewood Scattershield.

SFI Approved.

-Schultzy

GofasterFirebird

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To which question does that answer?

Schultzy89GTA

Those. But I am not a fast manual guy.

-Schultzy

GofasterFirebird

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It will work for the t-5 bellhousing? That is what you run?

Schultzy89GTA

yes.

yes, but I am running a TKO 5spd.



-Schultzy

AlkyIROC

That's a special bellhousing designed for third gens. Notice the angle of the clutch arm. A typical housing has the arm coming straight off the side.

The picture of the tranny explosion is here. http://www.horsepowerheaven.com/navi...2/cudaboom.jpg
The pictures of the actual tranny are not available online but I know a lot of them were taken.

ede

i have a lakewood blowbell on my old car ,i think you're a fool to not have one if you do any sort of hotrodding, but if you don't mind clutch and flywheel parts in your feet and legs and holes in your car i wouldn't bother with one.

383backinblack

ya i really need one of those for my tremec lol. Its especially important for high rpm launches, im always hammering down at like 5000-6000 at the tree, and i dont want a broken clutch disc to steal my feet.

schultzy, how hard was it to get the pivot ball adjusted on the lakewood? and did you use the locating kit to make sure it wasnt running out?

GofasterFirebird

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Schultzy,

How heavy was that lakewood as compared to the stock one?

How difficult was install?

What price did you pay?

What are all of those bolts at the bottom perimeter?

Is that some sort of adaptor plate between the trans and bellhousing?

How fast is your car?

Thanks

SSC

The Blow Proof bell housings are heavy, Ive got a Lakewood on my truck and it weighs quite a bit more then the stock aluminum one. Although like Stephens picture That arent all that safe but I doubt any of us are running a 2500HP setup, yet I also have a Kevlar blanket and am working on a 1/4in piece of sheet metal to cover the floor and part of the firewall. My Dad lost a clutch in his first 56 and he also had a BPB, cltuch went straight through the bell housing and when he got to the end of the track the only transmission part still on the car was the shifter he was holding onto and that was only a 600HP engine. If you can find one made for your transmission there easy to install but theres always some fabrication that usually needs to be done.

Schultzy89GTA

To tell you the truth bud, the guy I bought it from (Jon - aka QwkTrip) had the pivot ball already adjusted. If you are asking how hard it was to get the right height I can't answer. If you are asking how hard it is to adjust, it is very easy.

I did not know about the locating kit. Actually I think it may have been you that pointed it out in a previous post of mine. Had I known I would have used it and recommend it to anyone putting a Lakewood on their car - They are only like twenty-something dollars. So far it looks like the centerlines were aligned just fine but time will tell.

-Schultzy

Schultzy89GTA

1. Don't have any weights for you but it is definately heavier.

2. Not terribly difficult but there are LOTS of bolts - hehe.

3. Well I bought a package deal that included the Lakewood bell housing, Fortes Tremec TKO tranny, Inland Empire 3" aluminum driveshaft (1350 yokes), Pro 5.0 shifter and a Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch. I can't tell you exactly what I paid for the bellhousing itself. Summit has them for $298 (p/n LAK-15020 I believe). As mentioned by 383backinblack, order the bellhousing locating kit as well. It is $13 (just looked up the price - p/n LAK-15981).

4. There are bolts all around the perimeter. There is a plate that goes between the engine and the bellhousing. I assume to help contain any explosion. The bolts to attach the bellhousing to the engine are in the same location as stock but then there are other bolts that you see all the way around attached to the plate. That is the tedious part of the install ;-).

5. There is an adapter between the bellhousing and the tranny to properly locate the TKO. They were originally designed for F*rds. Mike Fortes does a conversion for GM apps.

6. I am not positive. I am thinking that I should be in the 13's on the juice but I need to get to the track this year. I have spent this last year building up my platform (primarily suspension mods but the tranny was put in to live up to what I hope to be quite a bit of power someday). I was recently dynoed at

229.6 hp and 342.2 tq NA
306.1 hp and 422.8 tq Juice

120k daily driver with only bolt ons. My bottle temp was probably about 55* so I didn't get the full effect. I recently picked up a bottle heater, window switch and purge kit that I need to install. So you figure if I only see 100hp at the rear wheels from a 150 shot that will put me at over 320 rwhp and a boat load of torque.

If you plan on buying a Lakewood please check with the board sponsors first. I listed the Summit numbers because it was right in front of me but I belive that at least one of our sponsors sells the Lakewood bellhousing.

Anyway, I hope that I answered your questions and apologize in advance if my post was too long.

-Schultzy

laiky

Hey, the underside of schultz's car looks just like mine!

I sleep better at night knowing i have the scattersheild. i had to get it because the stock one won't clear an 11 inch flywheel. Don't forget to order the adjustable pivot ball, it comes separetly. One note though, in my case my car is a daily driver, it is lowered, and i live in NYC. I had to cut the flange flush with the bottom of the housing. it sticks down too far ant twice i caught asphalt at high speed. i thought i ripped the tranny out! it was brutal. I don't know how you use your car but its something to keep in mind.

Schultzy89GTA

ouch dude! What springs did you use. I have caught mine twice but low speed on real high speed bumps. Now I just go real slow and no probs. Not much room under there though. I am running the Sportlines.

-Schultzy

laiky

eibach pro kit. I got it at speed. racing a turbo supra ( that one must have looked great, my bell housing gave off ashower of sparks and so did his exhaust), and once racing myself. The bottom flange was bent back and there was a wedge of asphalt between the block protector and the housing. I cut it flush with a 4 1/2 inch grinder. nothing since. nothing like creaming your new engine/tranny/clutch. If it weren't for the fact i was going so fast, i might have soiled myself.

SpectreGTA91

Hey laiky, where in NYC did you race the Supra? All the old places for street racing got closed down by the cops like Hunts Point and Zerega. There's some racing going on at Far Rockaway now and Greenpoint. Also, what part of NYC are you from? I'm from Flatbush, Brooklyn.

I'm in the process of saving cash to swap in a Tremec TKO into my car. Right now, it's an L98/Auto GTA. These threads have been awesome, and I'm definitely going to get the Lakewood Scattershield.

laiky

Crossbay blvd, i live in Ozone park. I don't actually go to organized street racing, But if the oppertunity presents itself i take advantage!