Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
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Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
Has anyone ever installed ev6 injectors on tpi. There are ev6 injectors with ev1 connectors. To get the correct install height and or seal some use two o-rings. Southbay presses on tip extensions. Would this be true with a ev6 injector with a ev6 connector like this injector on the link ?
Just curious if anyone is running a ev6 injector.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-e...injectors.html
Just curious if anyone is running a ev6 injector.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-e...injectors.html
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
I'm sure the ford racing ( oxymoron) injectors link I have shown at 43.5 psi will be 30-36 #hr more than adequate for a solid 400 hp. My application is alittle unique using a t-ram just going on the stock tpi injector height.
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
That particular EV6 injector is a long style. The o-ring to o-ring dimension matches between it an a EV1 injector. The overall length of that EV6 injector is less as the pintle cap is shorter.
I don't see that as an issue.
Looking further into this I see where the issue is. The groove for the retaining clip is further down the injector. Which will pull the injector out of the intake manifold boss. That explains the second o-ring or pintle cap to prevent vacuum leaks.
Hmmm... cut new grooves?
RBob.
I don't see that as an issue.
Looking further into this I see where the issue is. The groove for the retaining clip is further down the injector. Which will pull the injector out of the intake manifold boss. That explains the second o-ring or pintle cap to prevent vacuum leaks.
Hmmm... cut new grooves?
RBob.
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
Here's a link for comparing ev1, ev6 and ev14 injectors. HTH
http://www.rmaperformance.com/tags/ev14/
http://www.rmaperformance.com/tags/ev14/
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
Thanks Guys for the info, @rbob the injectors are captured between the upper and lower sections on the intake on a t-ram, Instead of reinventing the wheel and buying parts for trial fitment I think I will change the harness ends and use the new 32#hr ev1 bosch plug end style I already have. I purchased a stand alone harness in the classifieds unmentioned was it has ev6 connecters.
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
I see said the blind man, the fuel rails are integral with the upper half of the intake. No clips are used. In this case I don't see why the 24#/hr EV6 injectors aren't a drop in.
Note that when it comes to the connectors that there are two styles. The older Jetronic/Minitimer and the newer USCAR. (US car). Many injectors are available with either connector. The Siemens Deka 60# and 80# injectors are one example.
See the link bigal55 posted to see what each looks like.
One thing to make sure of, is that the injectors purchased have the compensation data available.
RBob.
Note that when it comes to the connectors that there are two styles. The older Jetronic/Minitimer and the newer USCAR. (US car). Many injectors are available with either connector. The Siemens Deka 60# and 80# injectors are one example.
See the link bigal55 posted to see what each looks like.
One thing to make sure of, is that the injectors purchased have the compensation data available.
RBob.
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
Hi guys, I am going to try to help with the injector issue. TPi stock or replacement injectors have the old style EV1 electrical connector which is what you need for your setup without using a wire adapter, however if you decide to use a new style injector such as the newer ford racing or the bosch EV14 injectors they will have an ev6 connector which means you would need a wire adapter/pigtail/ or the adapter with the loose pins which will plug into the injector and then you can just wire in your harness. The siemen 60's and 80's come with both the EV1 and the EV6 connectors however you will not need the additional oring because you ARE able to use the clips with these injectors because the grooves are in the correct place for installation on your application. The bosch lll's are 1/8 to 1/4 inch short than the stock injectors, however bosch did not provide the grooves on the top of some of the injectors to allow for a clip so there was no other way to give it more height without using a double oring or our adapter. By the way, if for some reason you install the bosch lll's with a double oring set up...be sure that the second oring sits on the outside of the intake...it acts a spacer and that's what gives the injectors the additional height. If you push them in too far you will be defeating the purpose. If any of you have purchased the older bosch genll's/metal body injector from us... notice that you did not need a double oring because they have the grooves for the clips. Now Brian, those purple Ford racing EV6 injector might not fit because of the location of the grooves. If they are too short, then definitely apply the second oring into that little metal groove and you will be fine. Guys, when it comes to fitment of an injector,,, for the most part it has nothing to do with the shape of the injector...it will always have to do with the injectors measuring the same oring to oring...that goes for any application. If they are not exactly the same then fitment will be an issue. Here is a pic of a standard bosch 3 next to ones you guys install into your stock set up with our adapter. No need for the adapter when using aftermarket intakes.
Notice that the top of the injectors do not have any grooves.
Hope this helps
Notice that the top of the injectors do not have any grooves.
Hope this helps
Last edited by southbay08; 02-07-2015 at 01:09 PM.
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Re: Ev6 vs ev1 on tpi
Thanks Southbay, I wish the seller of the harness I purchased would of told me about the ev6 connecters . I would off offset my offer $25-35. Great info
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...g-harness.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...g-harness.html
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