CamaroX84

Anyone know how to upgrade my intake and heads in such a manner that I don't use NOS, a SuperRam, or a Miniram? Thanks in advance.

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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - Rebuilt 355 S/D TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam, Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back

Best 1/4 Mile Run:
14.137 @ 94.57 MPH

1992 1LE B4C Police Camaro RS - 305 TPI 5-Speed

smokin87iroc

siamese your intake. i am done with mine and will have pics later. i only went 1.5 inches into the intake and if that doesn't move it up enough i'll do more later. i think mad max went like 3-4 inches and he noticed a great difference.
then have you heads extrude honed
Andrew

RW91B4C

You will need more then intake and heads to run solid 12s, a cam too. Get some SLP or ASM runner, aftermarket base, ported plenum, some good flowing heads and a mild cam. Good exhaust would be nice. That should run some 12s

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91 B4C 305 TPI - SOON TO BE 383
TREMEC 5-SP, STOCK 1-BOLT REAREAND w/342 GEARS, K&N, AIRFOIL
EDELBROCK HEADERS, DUAL CAT TO HOMEMADE Y-PIPE & 3.5" SINGLE PIPE W/ FLOWMASTER, CRANK PULLEY, MSD, FUEL PRESS REG, COWL HOOD, WELD WHEELS
14.1@ 98MPH
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OTHER RIDE
67 CAMARO - STREET CAR, BIG BLOCK, PUMP GAS
350TH w/ATI 10", 12-BOLT w/373 GEARS
10.94@124.13 ON MOTOR - ET-STREETs w/MUFFLERS

CamaroX84

Yeah, I forgot to say I already had a cam. All my mods are in the sig. So 12s are possible with an LTR design without N20 or a blower? Thanks.

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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - Rebuilt 355 S/D TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam, Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back

Best 1/4 Mile Run:
14.137 @ 94.57 MPH

1992 1LE B4C Police Camaro RS - 305 TPI 5-Speed

PETE

iTrader: (1)

12's are possible but you'll need help with gears(3.70's)a good converter(b&m holeshot or vigillante)as for the engine if you want a proven combo call lingenfelter for his ported l98 aluminums(2.00in./1.55ex.)and his cam designed for the superram(211/219,112lsa)and of course an accel superram however prom tuning will be a factor.these mods although expensive should put you in the low to mid 12's..

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87 trans am 350,L98 aluminum heads,LT4 hot cam,slp runners,slp 1 5/8 headers,3in.y-pipe,edelbrock base,hi flo cat,air foil,afpr,as&m ported plenum,t-5 tranny w/centerforce clutch and a 3.27 9bolt(11.9in. brakes),ed wright's fastchip,relocated iat sensor,tb bypass,accel supercoil,hollowed maf,slp 3in. catback,a/c delete.

shooting for 13's!!!!!!!

14.10@97mph w/2.01 60'

slp catback is finally on!!!
fastchip prom is in.OH!MAN!
FLOWMASTER S.U.C.K.S

PETE

iTrader: (1)

i also noticed your mph it's right about where it should be.a manual car running 14 flat should be around 95mph so your suspension definatly likes your current setup.once you get the xtra rpm's out of your engine those 3.27's are only gonna hurt you.

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87 trans am 350,L98 aluminum heads,LT4 hot cam,slp runners,slp 1 5/8 headers,3in.y-pipe,edelbrock base,hi flo cat,air foil,afpr,as&m ported plenum,t-5 tranny w/centerforce clutch and a 3.27 9bolt(11.9in. brakes),ed wright's fastchip,relocated iat sensor,tb bypass,accel supercoil,hollowed maf,slp 3in. catback,a/c delete.

shooting for 13's!!!!!!!

14.10@97mph w/2.01 60'

slp catback is finally on!!!
fastchip prom is in.OH!MAN!
FLOWMASTER S.U.C.K.S

Hank Brote

You'll really need to do the cam. If you have the SuperRam by all means get the 219*. That will make it get up and be taken notice of.

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Hank
87'IROC Z28
Hanks 87 IROC

quickL98

iTrader: (2)

i thought he wanted to stick with LTR's?
make sure you plenum is hogged out good and plenty when you do the runners and base, i run my SR on a stock(seriously ****in ported)
base.on the car in the sig. below i had a edelbrock base compared to my ported stock unit and saw NO! improvement.
i would agree with the slp runners or arizona spd and marine runrs. a good base and TB, along with a well thought exh (true duals maybe ). and definitely more gear.
but ya know heres the bitch of it... you get your 12's and then you'll want more, but you'll look around as i did and you'll noticed that ...wait a minute? nobody around here, anywhere for that matter is runnig 11's with a 350 and LTR's and N/A.... so then you have to find somebody to sell your intake parts to and buy a SR or spend a few hundred more for a Miniram.
at that point you've realized what you should've from the beginning to exceed the goals you had at the time you ventured out to to modify you TPI terror.

thats just my .02

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87GTA ,10.5:1,4-bolt 355,afr 190's, super ram ,stock poerted base,58mmTB,24 lb FMS inj. ed wright chip, .510/230 (nr) 1&5/8 hooker shorty's, flow master single 3", 2800 ameri-torque non lk-up, 3.73. best to date with stk 48mm tb and lack of traction in 1st gear netted me a 12.9 @110mph /91 TA daily driver LB9 A4 2.73,
sitting in the garage : 26-11.5-16 et streets, sphon LCA's &rlb's, SFC's, b&m mega shifter....hope to install before the next century!!!

BuckeyeROC

I just got the setup in my sig. and am hoping for solid 12's. I'll let you know when it's all in.

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89 IROC 350 TPI, 700R4, 2.77 9-bolt w/ full exhaust, some bolt-ons, and free mods-G-Tech timed 14.8 @ 96 w/ terrible tires...Parts currently being shipped: AFR 190's, SuperRam, LPE 219/219 cam, Vigilante TQ converter, a "beefed up" 3.42 10-bolt, and some Spohn suspension parts

RBMZ28

well said,quickl98.I have went from 15's to
11's over the years and my goal is to pull the wheels off the ground!!!!!!!!!

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87 IROC WITH 409(.040 OVER400) MINIRAM,NOS(125HP)TRICK FLOW PORTED HEADS,C.C.CAM,FLOWTEK HEADERS,CUSTOM PROM,MODIFIED 700R TRANS,2400 B&M CONVERTER,3.73POSI REAREND.
LOOKING FOR THE 11 SEC. ZONE.

quickL98

iTrader: (2)

i basically shared my experience with my car.
at first i didnt want to stray away from the LTR setup either.
embarassing.... i know.

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87GTA ,10.5:1,4-bolt 355,afr 190's, super ram ,stock poerted base,58mmTB,24 lb FMS inj. ed wright chip, .510/230 (nr) 1&5/8 hooker shorty's, flow master single 3", 2800 ameri-torque non lk-up, 3.73. best to date with stk 48mm tb and lack of traction in 1st gear netted me a 12.9 @110mph /91 TA daily driver LB9 A4 2.73,
sitting in the garage : 26-11.5-16 et streets, sphon LCA's &rlb's, SFC's, b&m mega shifter....hope to install before the next century!!!

BuckeyeROC

I looked at what guys were running and what they had for engine combos and knew I needed either a SR or miniram to get what I wanted from an N/A engine. I went w/ the SR b/c it is better suited for what I am trying to accomplish. I just think it's a lot easier to make power w/ the SR and miniram over the LTR setup.


[This message has been edited by BuckeyeROC (edited July 21, 2001).]

quickL98

iTrader: (2)

welcome home brother .... taking the first step in admitting your fualts is the most important one, here at LTR anonomous.

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87GTA ,10.5:1,4-bolt 355,afr 190's, super ram ,stock poerted base,58mmTB,24 lb FMS inj. ed wright chip, .510/230 (nr) 1&5/8 hooker shorty's, flow master single 3", 2800 ameri-torque non lk-up, 3.73. best to date with stk 48mm tb and lack of traction in 1st gear netted me a 12.9 @110mph /91 TA daily driver LB9 A4 2.73,
sitting in the garage : 26-11.5-16 et streets, sphon LCA's &rlb's, SFC's, b&m mega shifter....hope to install before the next century!!!

Beast5spdGTA

WORD... If you really like the way LTR looks, put it in a pickup truck where it belongs. And for all you preaching torque, no one races to the 330' mark sorry, No one is towing their boat around with a 3rd gen either. With a 5+ liter V8 lack of torque isn't an issue. Drive a honda, there's a lack of torque, but don't cry when he pulls you in the top end. Sorry just on this going fast kick since i met some guys with DSMs 10 cars, 5 of them going 13.5 or quicker. This 305 is going 12s or blowing up trying(hopefully soon).

91z4me

BTW I did see a 3rd gen pulling a trailer the other day not a boat but close. Also I see lots of vettes pullin stuff. Why do people use a sports car to pull stuff? Seems silly to me.

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91 z-28 305 700R4
3.73 gears out back
T-Tops and Black all over.

ImportsRsloths

Vettes only pull trailors or boats in kentucky!

leirch

Not true!, I live right by I-75 and make my fair amount of 60mile one way trips up and down it, I've seen all sorts of things, vettes with trailers, and countless thirdgens with them. I about had to pull them off the road and slap them

vinroc

just can't let go I just can't! I know I know but it's all in the car all ready and and ... I just can't shake it the ltr it gets a hold of ya maybe nex winter I can go to rehab and get it out of my system

[This message has been edited by vinroc (edited October 23, 2001).]

Blueiroc

I have run 12.6's @ 103mph with my 87 l98...all I did was bore it .030 over..355 with trickflow aluminum heads and ported intake and runner and plenum with 1 3/4 headers with stock exhaust with the 700r4 and stock convertor...12's arent hard...anything beyond that get's tough...

Brian