I am currently planning a EFI swap. If you have a fast Super Ram or a fast Mini Ram, or even better, a fast long tube runner set up, please post your data here. Add links to you r websites if available.

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355 c.i.
Dart 180 Heads
Lunati 224/224 cam
Harland Sharp 1.5 rockers
Performer RPM Manifold
Holley 600 cfm double pumper
Hooker Super Competition Headers
Flowmaster Exhaust
Competition Engineering Sub-frame connectors
Super T-10
GM posi 3.42 rear
Hurst Roll Control
13.9@102

 

By the way, Fast=14.0 seconds or quicker at more than 101 mph.

 

Ran 12.2@112 with a small cam (218/224), small stall (2800), and small exhaust (1-5/8). All naturally aspirated. Hope to be high 11's the next time to the track because I installed a big cam (230/245), big stall (3600), and big exhaust (1-3/4" longtubes) - as well as having my AFR190s ported and installing an AFR hydrarev kit. Should be interesting. Still running the stock bottom end of the motor and the tranny has never been rebuilt - ... rofl ... only a matter of time before it all blows up

Tim

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TRAXION's 1990 IROC-Z
Best Time = 12.244 @ 112.51mph (1.778 60' / 7.819@88.32mph in the 1/8)
All Natural. No Force. No Drugs. Stock Bottom End. Stock Body Panels.
Gunning for NA 11's with bigger cam, bigger stall, and bigger exhaust.
-=ICON Motorsports=-
Moderator: PROM board at thirdgen.org

[This message has been edited by TRAXION (edited September 10, 2001).]

 

Running small cam (230/236) in a 406 with unported AFR190's. With a vortech and the belt slipping I have managed a best of 11.31 @ 120. Once I get this belt to stop slipping I am expecting about 10.80's or 60's or so.



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-86 IROC
11.31 @ 120.2 mph
-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

I have a Mini Rammed 383, AFR 195 heads - fully ported by Champion cylinder head service, 1.6 RR's, 58mm TB, Accel DFI, 11:1 CR, Hooker Long Tubes, dual exhaust system, and a really samll camshaft - TPIS ZZ9.

I have an Art Carr 700R4 w/ a 3800 stall, and a 12 bolt w/ 3.73 gears. My car is very heavy - but I expect high 11's on ET Streets.



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1986 IROC, fully loaded, Mini Ram'd 383, Art Carr 700R4, Accel DFI, 12 bolt rear, etc, etc......

 

The setup is in the sig. The HP and ET's listed were with a stock chip. I'm currently working on reprogramming the car myself currently. It will be dynoed again once I'm done. I'm hoping to be around 300 RWHP and knocking on the 12's.

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Black 88 GTA L98
261 RWHP, 345 RWTQ
13.406 @ 103.72 MPH
ZZ4 bottom end, Edelbrock 6085 heads, LT4 HOT cam, GMPP 1.6 RR's, ported stock TPI, SLP 1 3/4" headers, no cat, Dynomax cat-back, Stock PROM
E.T.F.A Member #11

 

info in the sig.just rebuilt again(over revved at the track).looking for 11.6 w/o nos.

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87 IROC WITH 409(.040 OVER400) MINIRAM,NOS(125HP)TRICK FLOW PORTED HEADS,C.C.CAM,FLOWTEK HEADERS,CUSTOM PROM,MODIFIED 700R TRANS,2400 B&M CONVERTER,3.73POSI REAREND.
LOOKING FOR THE 11 SEC. ZONE.current ets.12.39@114 mph

 

I have some flowbench numbers of the superram and the miniram that I will post tomorrow.

 

Have a different intake setup than just about everyone else...

Pics are in the signature...

This run in signature was on a basic new motor, new intake and exhaust swap, and no tuning what so ever.

Need more gearing...

And need to tune the motor.

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13.3 @ 101.3MPH 95 degrees and 95% humidity w/ no tuning on motor

Sportsman II, Gear drive, Perf. Res. chip, SLP 1 3/4" headers, Edelbrock muffler, Trans-go stage 3, Vigilante 9.5", Functional Ram Air hood, SLP roller cam, 24lb ADS injectors, AFPR, 3.45 gears, Stealth intake, 58mm setup, Spohn suspension, and other goodies...


raven

Custom EFI Intake Setup

[This message has been edited by raven350 (edited September 13, 2001).]

 

88gta,Those flow numbers would be great. Everyone in these posts (with the exception of Raven) has a Mini Ram. Are there any wicked fast Super Rams out there. Also, Traxion's LTR vs. Miniram dyno numbers on a previous post were excellent, but do you have any data at a lower RPM range, in the neighbor hood 0f 1500 RPM and up? Traxion, what do you shift at? What is the optimal RPM Range of the Mini-ram vs. Super Ram?

 

How about no more "anticipated times"? I am also looking for a better intake manifold and estimations really don't help me much.

Anyhow Raven, your manifold looks good but it doesn't seem to work exceptionally well. Seems like a good design, though. I could haver sworn that i had seen that manifold in the Accel catalogue before or is it really custom?

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1991 Firebird
350 L98 (was a 305 TBI),T-5,Edelbrock TES and cat back,Accel manifold
NOS,subframes,jegster torque arm,MSD Digital 6
AFPR,Lakewood lcas
Hurst linelock,SLP cam (206 212 .480 .486),relocated battery,cold air,Hypertech chip,centerforce df,clutch
poly bushings and mounts
AFR 190s
Harland sharp 1.5 rockers
autopower rollbar

12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected

 

Ported plenum, stock runners (not ported), and a ported Edelbrock base, best E.T. so far with 2:77 gears >> 13.40 @ 105.9.. Best MPH with new 3:70 gears >> 13.7 @ 108.78, I have transmission trouble now, since the gear swap and it won't shift right, that is why it is not as quick, just faster.

http://www.geocities.com/jasonsz28us/INDEX.htm



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1991 Camaro RS/Z28,polished TPI, 355ci. Sportsman 11 heads, LT-4 Hot cam,Pete Jackson gear drive, on,and on, and on... best E.T.>13.4 new best MPH> 108.7, no traction, no tuning, The car is pictured in Chevy High Performance magazine, June 2000 issue.
http://www.geocities.com/jasonsz28us/INDEX.htm

1997 GMC Yukon, 4 wheel drive, leather, loaded, Gibson exhaust, K&N intake, Boston pro series speakers..... That's it so far.

1969 Camaro,12 point cage, total project right now, I am planning an LS1 - T56 - and a Vette independent rear. Pro Touring crowd, look out! 8^)

 

I ran 13.700 w/ street tires at Va Motorsports park. Check my sig. I did a little porting to the plenum. I will be switching to the MiniRam, LT4 hot cam, and 1.6 RR. That better put me in the 12's or I'm gettin' some fun juice.

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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass, 3"cowl, bat. relocate, AC delete, stock T-5 w/ 3.42 rear, ported plenum, 24# inj.

 

I ran a best of 12.42 @ 109 with Accel long tube runners, ported plenum, 52 mm tb, Accel base intake, LPE 74211 cam, 2500 rpm converter, headers and ported Dart 2 heads, 3.07 gears with a 3500 lb raceweight in a 85 vette.

I ran a best of 12.12 @ 111 mph with all of the above plus a Vigalante torque converter and the Superram. (With the wrong cam installed)(motor had 190,000 miles on it when this et was run.

I ran a best so far of 11.55 @ 117 with all of the above plus a 383 short block and the correct cam. (LPE 74219)

As a note, a Corvetteforum member with a Superram, ported AFR 190's, headers, LPE 74219 cam, 3.45 gears, Pro-Torque converter and a 80,000 mile stock shortblock has run a best of 11.72 @ 116 mph.... just last weekend in 90 degree heat he set his new best mph of 117.60... he's at roughly 3350 raceweight in his 85 vette.

There are other examples....

In my opinion after studying the two very closely, its easier to get into the 11's with a Superram.... but its easier to get into the 10's with a Miniram. Just my opinion.

cheers,
Todd

 

im not saying what i run
but you can see my superram on my simple page
at:

http://darcom.home.texas.net/

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388 SuperRam, DFI, Vortech R trim ,N.O.S.,alki injection,
Dart sportmansII heads,50 pound injectors, Headman full headers
duel 3' exhaust,and Flowmasters, Ford nine inch with 370's
Ronal rims with Nitto drad raidals.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000986.html

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89 RS

STILL Looking For:
An 87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI

 

Flowbench numbers: All tests done at 28" water, all tests used Trick Flow Twisted Wedge stock head, all tests are on the intake valve only. I was there for 4 hours testing these combos, so please no crap about testing the exhausts. I would have been there another 4 hours testing the exhausts.

#1 Head only cfm
.100 61.1
.200 129.9
.300 189.9
.400 235.0
.500 248.6
.600 250.6

#2 head plus miniram bolted to it
.100 60.5
.200 128.3
.300 188.5
.400 231.9
.500 243.9
.600 244.0

#3 head with complete superram
.100 60.3
.200 123.5
.300 175.2
.400 209.9
.500 219.4
.600 218.6

#4 head with complete stock tpi system
.100 59.4
.200 118.9
.300 161.7
.400 187.3
.500 198.9
.600 197.8

If you use the rough estimate that every 1 cfm equals 2 horsepower, then you can see the difference in the intakes.

All the intakes were flowed attached to the head, and flowed at Total Engine Airflow http://www.totalengineairflow.com/

My superram is there now being fully ported along with my AFR 190 heads, which will also be flowed. TEA could not flow the intakes by themselves because he had no way to bolt the intakes to the flowbench.

I have more flow numbers than posted here, but will have to post them as a tech article or in a web page, since I will have more numbers to add later. I flowed each component as it was added to the head, head, head and base, head, base, and runners, head, base, runners, and plenum, and have numbers for all of these tests that I will post later.

Hope this helps. I only know of one superram car in the 10's and that was cartek's corvette. I have a superram, and have 2 friends with miniram's, so I hope to have lots of flowbench info, track times, and modification to results histories. When I get the flowbench numbers for the AFR's I will post them also. TEA is porting the superram, and says that the biggest restriction right now is the airflow turn from the plenum down into the runners, and that is what they are going to clean up first. I hope to get the superram to flow what the miniram flows, but only time will tell. Unfortunately, it takes money to make the superram and the stock intake to flow decent air. One guy who works at TEA has ported his stock heads, intake and put in a cam, and runs 13.0 @ 107 mph with a 5-speed in an 87 formula, so it is possible to get airflow through the stock intake.

Hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by 89gta383 (edited September 14, 2001).]

 

Those are some pretty disturbing numbers. I can see Why the Mini Ram is so popular.
Lift Inches MR SR TPI
0.1 -0.6 -0.8 -1.7
0.2 -1.6 -6.4 -11
0.3 -1.4 -14.7 -28.2
0.4 -3.1 -25.1 -47.7
0.5 -4.7 -29.2 -49.7
0.6 -6.6 -32 -52.8

You can see why the stock tpi cam had a lift of around .400''Those numbers are just plain ugly.

 

I jsut built a very very mild 400 w/Miniram for my brother's 87 GTA. Cam so small it's embarrassing. Off the shelf "junk" Trick Flow heads and nothing else but bigger injectors (absolutely necessary) and a chip to run it.

I posted the chassis dyno printout over in the Tech/General engine forum a few weeks ago but here's the highlights: Just shy of 480ft/lbs of torque at a low 2700 RPMs and just over 400 HP from 4800-6100. And there's a little more left in it still- we ran it with the restictive stock 1987 factory intake system.

My calibrated butt tells me it's good for high 12s@110 on street tires despite it's rather porky 3700 pound weight.

 

Darcom i have one thing to say to you.... WOW. YOU ARE THE MAN. supercharged, nitrous, and *** knows what else. that is what my car will be when i graduate and have a little money. anyway, no one has really said whether the mini or the SR was better. which one delivers more torque between 1500 and 5000 rpm? i would think the SR woudl but i have seen some mean minis out there. lets hear it guys. set on a 383 or larger motor, which one is the real stump puller?

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86 IROC-Z
305 TPI
700R4 W/ shift kit
3.23 gears
T-Tops
maroon with gold stickers and rims/ black interior
43,000 miles
flowmaster exhaust, edelbrock headers, gutted airbox, converter, and MAF, K&N filters.

soon to come are 3.73 gears and subframe connecters.

[This message has been edited by FlameRedMetallic (edited September 19, 2001).]

 

I just wanted to post this to see the cool flames.

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355 c.i.
Dart 180 Heads
Lunati 224/224 cam
Harland Sharp 1.5 rockers
Performer RPM Manifold
Holley 600 cfm double pumper
Hooker Super Competition Headers
Flowmaster Exhaust
Competition Engineering Sub-frame connectors
Super T-10
GM posi 3.42 rear
Hurst Roll Control
13.9@102

 

btt

 

Haven't run my car w/ the SR yet, but it sounds badass w/ the AFR 190's, LPE 219 cam and open headers.

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89 IROC-To see mods go to: http://www.geocities.com/buckeyeroc

 

And GOFASTERFIREBIRD, I ANTICIPATE mid 12's, or I'm coming after YOU!

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89 IROC-To see mods go to: http://www.geocities.com/buckeyeroc

[This message has been edited by BuckeyeROC (edited September 20, 2001).]

 

You won't catch me.

Darcom, please tell us what times you run. Why is it a secret anyway? Anyone that knows something will realize not to give you car lengths with two power adders.

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1991 Firebird
350 L98 (was a 305 TBI),T-5,Edelbrock TES and cat back,Accel manifold
NOS,subframes,jegster torque arm,MSD Digital 6
AFPR,Lakewood lcas
Hurst linelock,SLP cam (206 212 .480 .486),relocated battery,cold air,Hypertech chip,centerforce df,clutch
poly bushings and mounts
AFR 190s
Harland sharp 1.5 rockers
autopower rollbar

12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected

 

ttt

 

ttt hey darcom we are callin u out! fess up! what does your monster run?

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86 IROC-Z
305 TPI
700R4 W/ shift kit
3.23 gears
T-Tops
maroon with gold stickers and rims/ black interior
43,000 miles
flowmaster exhaust, edelbrock headers, gutted airbox, converter, and MAF, K&N filters.

soon to come are 3.73 gears and subframe connecters.

 

Darcom, does your car run? It sure looks expensive.

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355 c.i.
Dart 180 Heads
Lunati 224/224 cam
Harland Sharp 1.5 rockers
Performer RPM Manifold
Holley 600 cfm double pumper
Hooker Super Competition Headers
Flowmaster Exhaust
Competition Engineering Sub-frame connectors
Super T-10
GM posi 3.42 rear
Hurst Roll Control
13.9@102

 

Which member is it? I frequent corvetteforum quite a bit. Do you go by "Beach Bum" over there? I bought Dennis's (Bowtye8) heads.


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92Z28
89GTA

 

Hey, somebody new reply to this topic.

 

I have heard both sides of the Miniram vs. Superram deal. Traxion loves the Miniram, and 89Vette loves his "Super Duper Ram".

Have you ever seen a torquey high 12 second car take a high revving, high 11 second car on the road over and over again? It happens all the time, and the ONLY way that 11 second car could catch up is at the 1/4 track or at high speeds on the street. At the 1/8th mile track, the 12 second car can be beating the 11 second car, but in the last 1/8th, the 11 second car will pass it up. It's all about "usable" hp/tq...mid range, baby!

Which would you like to do? If it were me, I think I would get more satisfaction beating up on that guy 20 times on the road in front of his friends at the local "hot spot" then be over taken by him once at a track (if you ever line up against each other). TRUST ME...your ego will be inflated so much more by beating someone on the street that runs faster than you in the 1/4, than comparing time slips and seeing that your et is lower.

I bought a miniram. I took it back. I bought a superram that was fully ported w/the runners extrude honed and can't wait to put it on. I have discussed this with many people before: Do you want to win races on the street or on the track? I rarely, if ever race past 70 mph on the street, (80 on freeway) and at a stop light, I can get most everyone, but we have to be stopped, and ready to launch. I run a 4.4 in 0-60, but I have to half throttle it for a few seconds and ease into it. My mid range isn't the toughest, and my top end is flat out weak. BUT I still run a 12.90 in the 1/4 w/stock tpi setup. Why did I buy the SuperRam? Because I want my mid range to be comporable (sp?) to my low end power so I can just as easily kill things on the street from a roll like I do at stoplights (most races on the street for me start at about 20-30mph to begin with). The only reason I would want top end is to get a better track time (I hardly ever go). I still anticipate a mid 12, without having to wrap my motor out to 7 grand. Oh and hey! Superram is emissions legal. So, for me, personally, if I can end up getting a low 12/hi 11 after the SR and some other things, I'll be glad...my motor will live longer...I will kill more things on the road...it will look cooler under the hood! (imho of course!)

I hope this helps!

 

Acceld Z - Those Edelbrock heads were originally mine. I had them ported by Lingenfelter. They really increased the low and mid lift numbers. I don't know if you have the original flow numbers, if you need them I still have them.

By the way, 383 NA, MiniRam 11.61@117.5.

www.geocities.com/dzperf



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D&Z Performance
"Putting Power to the Pavement"

 

Yeah thats me. So you must have bought his old Edlebrock heads ? I have his old Superram Plenum & Runners on mine.

What forum name are you over their ?

cheers,
Todd

 

Man, all roads lead to Bowtye8 I go by7xchampcar3 at corvetteforum. I only post when I have a good question or if I have an answer for someone else's post. I really don't post much at all.

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92Z28
89GTA

 

Yeah, I've conversed with Dennis for several years via email with a small group of performance oriented racers. He emailed me yesterday, he has his AFR's on, Solid roller in, his distributor problems solved, and I believe he said he's taking his initial runs this weekend... (with a full bottle to boot), he should be wayyy into the 10's with any luck.

later
Todd

 

In reasponce to what 89IROCZZ4 said:

Wouldn't it be ideal to have the best of both worlds? Is that even possible. I'm talkin a car that runs mid to low 11s and can still kick anyones *** on the street. I want my 377 to be that way. I'm thinking since its going to be a road course racer, that it'll operate between 3500 and 7500. The MR does offer a pretty flat power curve above 2500. I think that if you match a car with the right gearing to get it too its upper RPMs where it really is crazy fast enough, you'd have what I am talking about. Am I wrong?

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Accel High Flow TPI Baseplate, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, Jet TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

 

The problem with what 89IrocZZ4 said is that a high rpm and high HP motor equiped with a Miniram can just as easily beat the Superram equiped motor on the street as well as the strip.

If you have 383 Superram motor that makes 440 HP @ 5400 rpm and 480 ftlbs @ 4000 rpm vs a 383 Miniran motor that makes 480 HP @ 6000 rpm and 440 ftlbs @ 4600 rpm.... if both are optimized for their particular set-up, which would win in a 60 ft race ? a 330 ft race ? 1/8th race ? 1/4 mile race ?

The answer to all of the questions is the Miniram equiped motor, simply because it has more HP. I know a bunch are going to say "but the Superram motor has 40 more ftlbs of torque and that power is closer to idle too, so its gotta be quicker" I would agree with this if both set-ups were running 3.07 gears and 2600 rpm converters.... but if both are "optimized", then the MR wins. However, it requires more stall and gear to accomplish this. This is why its my opinion, its easier for a Superram motor to make it into the 11's, but easier for the Miniram to reach the 10's. (You don't need much gear, 3.07-3.45 gears are perfect for the Superram), whereas to optimize the Miniram it would probably want a 3400 rpm converter and 3.73's for an auto or 4.11's for a manual.

To give you an example... an email friend has a stroked LT-1 (Similar to the MR), he makes a bunch more HP than me, but at 3000-3500 rpm I probably make more torque than he does with my 383 Superram motor... but does he care... not a bit, he has a Vigalante converter that flashes up to about 3800 rpm.... thus his results is 1.45 60 fts, 10.70's et's versus my 1.55 60 fts, mid 11's.

Point being, HP is not just trap speed, its Potential, and that includes potential for 60 foot times too. But you do have to sacrifice a bit of drivability with a high HP motor if you want to optimize for the quickest et's possible, and that means more gear and/or more stall than a Superram motor would require to optimize.

In my opinion, if you are want to build a daily driver into a very quick street/strip car. The Superram can't be beat, you can literally run in the 11's with a stock short block with 3.07 - 3.45 gears and a 2800 rpm torque converter provided you do all of the little things. This motor will get 25+ mpg on the freeway and idle smoothly.

However, if your racecar is just a weekend cruiser and racer, I think the Miniram would be Perfect. Build a motor with a lumpy cam, a lot of gear and/or stall, very agressive Hyd roller cam or even go Solid Roller... This motor with sticky tires would rip up and spit out the Superram motor in any distance race.... but as you can see the price to optimize this motor was foresaken in the gas mileage department due to the gear/stall combination, and of course with your lumpy cam, idle will be much rougher and emissions may be a challenge. Or in otherwords, not an ideal daily driver.

I don't want to mislead people though, you can run a fairly mild Hyd roller cam and gears as low as 3.45 and stalls as low as 2600 rpm with a Miniram and still run pretty strong, but you wouldn't be optimized and I would venture to say that not only could the Superram motor beat the Miniram in short distance races as 89IrocZZ4 said, but could probably even hold it off in the 1/4 simply because the MR wasn't optimized for the rpm range it was intended, but it would still run strong.

I know most of you already know this, but I felt the need to state it anyway.

just my opinion.
Todd

[This message has been edited by Todd85 (edited October 06, 2001).]

 

You have some good points, Todd! I was ready to say "on the contrary..." but you really hit all the points. The big things to remember are:

1. Do you REALLY want to wrap your motor out that much?
2. Do you have the money it takes to match everything up w/the miniram
3. What about losing some of the streetability for the miniram?

After reading those, it may sound like I'm bashing the miniram. I am not. I think it is a wonderful piece. Todd hit the nail on the head...it IS easier to hit 11's w/SR but easier to hit 10's w/MR...things start to break MUCH more easily if you want a 10 second daily driver though. Just my couple pennies

 

I dont Have any numbers yet I just got the new setup in the car. The car was being dyno tuned when the tranny went out. It should be done in the next few weeks. I will post numbers when i have them.

I have never used a Miniram or a SuperRam before. I have built a few carbed 400s though. After driving this setup even out of tune for a short time. I love this setup! The combo of intake and cubic inches is awesome. It feels like there is a big block under the hood. The torque really comes on strong around 3500-4000.

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90 IROC
SuperRamed 406
Trickflow 23* heads

 

89IrocZZ4, I don't think you were bashing the Miniram, and in fact if a set-up is running stock gears and mild street type converters, your post was correct.

I run the Superram right now, but I've studied the Miniram too. I am pro Superram and I am pro Miniram. Both intakes are heads and tails above long runnered set-ups. Just depends on how you want to set-up your racecar as to which intake you chose... but there is no going wrong with either set-up.

Todd

 

Hey Traxion. Fill in the chronology
What was your fastest time/MPH with aftermarket LTR's?

Then you made a switch to the miniram, what were your times/MPH's then?

Then you ripped out your passenger seat, what were the times/MPH's?

 

I just got the car down to 13.2 @ 102mph. And the intake setup is doing a lot better than my TPI. Before with the TPI I was a consistent 14.3 @ 97mph.

I switched intakes and went to 1 3/4 headers and my times have dropped over 1.1 seconds. Not bad in my opinion.

First thing is that I haven't tuned my car. I am hoping to go out to Milan dragway next week and do some tweaking. Timing and fuel pressure and the such are right were I left it on startup after the swap.

Plus I am not finishing the 1/4 mile at a high enough RPM. I need 4.11 inthe car with a locker.

I do have a one wheel wonder and get a lot of tire spin, unless of course I am at Route 66 Dragway.

I am very happy with my setup, plus not many other poeple have it and it is east to work on.

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13.2 @ 102.6MPH 60 degrees w/ still no tuning on motor

Sportsman II, Gear drive, Perf. Res. chip, SLP 1 3/4" headers, Edelbrock muffler, Trans-go stage 3, Vigilante 9.5", Functional Ram Air hood, SLP roller cam, 24lb ADS injectors, AFPR, 3.45 gears, Stealth intake, 58mm setup, Spohn suspension, and other goodies...


raven

Custom EFI Intake Setup

 

I have GREAT low end with my mini ram.


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-86 IROC

-=ICON Motorsports=-