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Can timing being too retarded cause false KR ?

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Old 09-28-2001, 09:25 AM
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Can timing being too retarded cause false KR ?

Just wondering if the timing could be too retarded to cause a false Knock?
Seems that I see up to 20 degrees of KR sometimes on the scan tool when I'm almost coasting, barely depressing the gas. If I depress the accellerator further. the KR goes away??
I've looked everywhere and don't see anything hitting anywhere and I don't hear any pinging when this happens.
Only thing that looks suspisious on the scan tool is that the timing advance seems low sometimes before the KR begins.

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Old 09-28-2001, 07:12 PM
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What do the knock counts say?

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Knock count is only how many times the sensor detected knock, goes up by 1 or 2 every time the KR is not 0.0. The KR can be anywhere from about 5 to 17 degrees usually when this happens, which is enough to be able to hear usually.
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2quik6,
ohm the knock sensor to ground. 3500-3900ohm
is good. more or less.. replace. if factory
base is 6.. safely go 10. anything past 10
and it is possibly for over timing. the timing
curve generally had +19 to +45* advance.
depending on MAF or MAP input. most cammed
engines ill rip all but 4* retard. so mapping
the timing curve is critical.
hope this helps...
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Thanks airdeano, I was about to change the knock sensor, I'll check the ohms on it.
My base timing is currently at 6 degrees.
Not sure what you meant by
"most cammed
engines ill rip all but 4* retard." ??

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