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Exactly.. well I have been in this country for 3 years and i have yet to see what i would regard a good bumpy twisty backroad (pot holes dont count as bumps )... I managed 20 miles in a little over 12 minutes in my Impreza across roads that I am sure would stagger some people on this board, I doubt there is a 3rd Gen out there that could run that time on the same road. Smooth road tracks are another matter...
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Its also not a stock TPI, nor does it get 22 mpg on the highway. It is also probably not your daily driver, atleast I hope not with a small block 400 with a 700dp Holley on it. My car and your car are on totally different levels, how could you even begin to compare them? I have not touched the top end of my car nor have I built the motor, I don't know where you got that from??? I am not claiming that the 305 is the best motor ever made, nor would it be my choice if I didn't drive it every day of the week. That is no reason to get what I can out of it for cheap. BTW, I do have a 350, actually I also have a small block 400 too, but I still got less money than it would take me to build either one of them. I don't even have as much money in my 305 as it would cost me in conversion parts to put in a 350 including injectors, ESC module, knock sensor, injectors, and a good tune. Maybe if I found those parts as cheap as I did some of the parts for the 305, but then I would be making less horsepower than I am now, it would be a bone stock L98 car, which the best of them made 245 hp at the crank. I believe that there is a certain power level where a person should ditch the 305, but have I reached that point, I SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!
Also, I believe Ricco is refering to a rally race in reference to the twisty bumpy road statement. Unless someone has an AWD third gen that is built for rally racing, I believe he is right about being able to take anyone on this board...lol.
Also, I believe Ricco is refering to a rally race in reference to the twisty bumpy road statement. Unless someone has an AWD third gen that is built for rally racing, I believe he is right about being able to take anyone on this board...lol.
Just a thought.
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I don't know. I guess I like to come into any thread where someone is boasting about a 305's numbers and talk ****. It's kinda like boasting about how you won the Special Olympics or something. Haha . Just razzing you buddy.
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you say "pretty impressed". I say "Sounds on par for the mods". :shrug:
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Dont worry, I am picking up the jets today from a local shop when I get the bottle filled. I was planning on dynoing with a 125 but I accidently borrowed NX jets, which don't fit a NOS nozzle, I didn't know that. I am actually building a 355, but I was shocked at what the 305 could do, torque wise. When I am done with it, I am going to the track with a bag of jets that wouldn't fit in your pocket and I am on a mission to see how much it will hold before it explodes. I plan on getting a fuel pump and maybe a nitrous fuel system stand alone unit before I do it, to make sure it doesn't blow up due to leaning it out.
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I understand, I was expecting a little flamage like I said, but not from a small block 400 that couldn't outrun 2 305's that posted in this board....lol, j/k.
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I understand, I was expecting a little flamage like I said, but not from a small block 400 that couldn't outrun 2 305's that posted in this board....lol, j/k.
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nitrous is cheating. Head/cammed 305s can make quite a bit of power.
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keep me posted on what that NO2'd out 305 handles when you go to detonate it!!!!!
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i say **** on ALL gen 1 platform small block chevys, when i get rich im doin a LS1 swap into my car........i know a guy with a 01 ss camaro thats pushin 435
rwhp with just cam heads and a tune (and the heads are just stock ls6 heads) talk about a better platform to work with.....an LSX is the best around right now
rwhp with just cam heads and a tune (and the heads are just stock ls6 heads) talk about a better platform to work with.....an LSX is the best around right now
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i say **** on ALL gen 1 platform small block chevys, when i get rich im doin a LS1 swap into my car........i know a guy with a 01 ss camaro thats pushin 435
rwhp with just cam heads and a tune (and the heads are just stock ls6 heads) talk about a better platform to work with.....an LSX is the best around right now
rwhp with just cam heads and a tune (and the heads are just stock ls6 heads) talk about a better platform to work with.....an LSX is the best around right now
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to eachs own i supose, but you cant argue with performance
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ls1 only has that performance due to 15 degree valve heads and the cathedral port design. A 15-18 degree small block would still make as much power since they flow as much as ported LS1 heads. The hottest motor combination goin is the SB2.2 setups. They can make 800-900 hp naturally aspirated on a 355-377 combo. I've seen them do it.
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First of all, I give you props, that is impressive out of a 305. Kind of a bummer that it takes spray to get those numbers, but nonetheless, power is power. Why not run a hopped up 305 until you drive it in to the ground and then drop a 350 or 383 in? That's my plan.
It's funny this debate has come to be. Does anyone remember the May 2007 issue of "Camaro Performers" magazine? The main story was "HATE ME: Add 150 HP to the chevy no one likes (305)". They took one of the HORRIBLY weak 305's from the early 80's and did the following:
- Long Tube Headers
- 180cc EngineQuest Heads, milled .030 for more compression
- Comp XE268H Cam
- Edelbrock Performer RPM AirGap Intake Manifold
- 650-cfm Speed Demon Carb
- ProMagnum Steel Rockers
Then, after some fine tuning, came the dyno.
350 ft-lbs of torque at 4500 RPMS
372 HP at 6100 RPMS
Now the debate is not 305 vs. 350, as it is clear more displacement makes for more power. The idea here is that 305's, with the money, experience, and right combination of parts, CAN make power. This article was written for guys with a budget to get some power out of their 305's.
It's funny this debate has come to be. Does anyone remember the May 2007 issue of "Camaro Performers" magazine? The main story was "HATE ME: Add 150 HP to the chevy no one likes (305)". They took one of the HORRIBLY weak 305's from the early 80's and did the following:
- Long Tube Headers
- 180cc EngineQuest Heads, milled .030 for more compression
- Comp XE268H Cam
- Edelbrock Performer RPM AirGap Intake Manifold
- 650-cfm Speed Demon Carb
- ProMagnum Steel Rockers
Then, after some fine tuning, came the dyno.
350 ft-lbs of torque at 4500 RPMS
372 HP at 6100 RPMS
Now the debate is not 305 vs. 350, as it is clear more displacement makes for more power. The idea here is that 305's, with the money, experience, and right combination of parts, CAN make power. This article was written for guys with a budget to get some power out of their 305's.
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Its just not cost effective to build a 350 TPI if you already have a good 305 like mine (uses no oil, doesn't smoke, perfect compression, etc...). that a 305 isn't a worthless motor like almost everyone portrays it to be, and that decent power and good times can be achieved relatively cheaply without that much squeeze.
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have you had the car at the track...?
i am doing a 305 build now. i just pulled out my 350 with a comp xe268 cam and 650 double pumper... going with a 305 tpi with an l98 cam 1.6 rr's afpr and home ported upper intake, t5 and 3.45 gear... i am hoping to run mid 14's on motor and mid 13's on a 100 shot... my 350 ran a best of a 13.9
so imo a 305 beats out a 350 depending on what you are doing with the car. my car to me is gorgeous i want to drive it everyday and it be economical but still have some pep to it. with just a 100 shot i could be running faster than a 350 with mods that gets 10 mpg... pshhh yall can keep that we'll see how the new setup goes.
i am doing a 305 build now. i just pulled out my 350 with a comp xe268 cam and 650 double pumper... going with a 305 tpi with an l98 cam 1.6 rr's afpr and home ported upper intake, t5 and 3.45 gear... i am hoping to run mid 14's on motor and mid 13's on a 100 shot... my 350 ran a best of a 13.9
so imo a 305 beats out a 350 depending on what you are doing with the car. my car to me is gorgeous i want to drive it everyday and it be economical but still have some pep to it. with just a 100 shot i could be running faster than a 350 with mods that gets 10 mpg... pshhh yall can keep that we'll see how the new setup goes.
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I think you're going to be severely dissappointed with the "economical" 305 compared to the 350. At the end of the year, the 350 might have cost you a smidge more, but nothing you'll really notice.
....and performance wise.....well.......
Sheesh. REALLY? I dunno man, I'd rethink this.
I've got a friend with 305 very close to what you're planning, and my cammed L98 is still significantly faster, and I'm pulling down 24 mpg on the highway.
....and performance wise.....well.......
Sheesh. REALLY? I dunno man, I'd rethink this.
with just a 100 shot i could be running faster than a 350 with mods that gets 10 mpg...
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LSx guys think they are second only to God. Of course I can't knock them, they put down great numbers and respond great to mods. But personally I would take a lot more pride in a motor that is harder to build, like the OPs 305, than an LS1. Putting down 400 rwtq, thats more than most full bolt on LS1 guys
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Thats more torque than most cammed full bolt on LS1's. A good friend of mine with an 01 WS6, we did a head and cam swap with full boltons. We went with Precision Racing Stage 2.5 CNC'd 5.3 heads, and a Torquer V2 cam (not huge, but respectable), with typical bolt ons and it made 405 ft lbs, Granted it made 435 hp.
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I would definitely go with a bigger cam than an L98 if I was trying to put up those numbers on motor, but then again I tend to overshoot.
No 1/4 mile tracks within about 2 hours from here, but I ran it Sunday 1/8th mile and ran a 9.09 @ 79 mph, and backed it up with a 9.07 @ 79 mph. I couldn't spray it in first, the car goes sideways....
That equates to a low 14, high 13 by a conversion chart. I have no idea if those things are right or not.
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have you had the car at the track...?
i am doing a 305 build now. i just pulled out my 350 with a comp xe268 cam and 650 double pumper... going with a 305 tpi with an l98 cam 1.6 rr's afpr and home ported upper intake, t5 and 3.45 gear... i am hoping to run mid 14's on motor and mid 13's on a 100 shot... my 350 ran a best of a 13.9
so imo a 305 beats out a 350 depending on what you are doing with the car. my car to me is gorgeous i want to drive it everyday and it be economical but still have some pep to it. with just a 100 shot i could be running faster than a 350 with mods that gets 10 mpg... pshhh yall can keep that we'll see how the new setup goes.
i am doing a 305 build now. i just pulled out my 350 with a comp xe268 cam and 650 double pumper... going with a 305 tpi with an l98 cam 1.6 rr's afpr and home ported upper intake, t5 and 3.45 gear... i am hoping to run mid 14's on motor and mid 13's on a 100 shot... my 350 ran a best of a 13.9
so imo a 305 beats out a 350 depending on what you are doing with the car. my car to me is gorgeous i want to drive it everyday and it be economical but still have some pep to it. with just a 100 shot i could be running faster than a 350 with mods that gets 10 mpg... pshhh yall can keep that we'll see how the new setup goes.
No 1/4 mile tracks within about 2 hours from here, but I ran it Sunday 1/8th mile and ran a 9.09 @ 79 mph, and backed it up with a 9.07 @ 79 mph. I couldn't spray it in first, the car goes sideways....
That equates to a low 14, high 13 by a conversion chart. I have no idea if those things are right or not.
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Thats more torque than most cammed full bolt on LS1's. A good friend of mine with an 01 WS6, we did a head and cam swap with full boltons. We went with Precision Racing Stage 2.5 CNC'd 5.3 heads, and a Torquer V2 cam (not huge, but respectable), with typical bolt ons and it made 405 ft lbs, Granted it made 435 hp.
My buddy has a bolt on LS1 and I'm constantly amazed just how long it pulls. Sure it pulls hard, so does my L98, but his car has a power band twice that of mine! ....if not more......
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yep area under the curve wins races. My L98 peaked higher torque wise with TPI, but the HSR intake made a broader torque curve and gave me the hp up top where its needed. Result was on average with 1.6 rockers, a 4 tenth gain and near 3-4mph
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I launch hard off the stall, and spray it in second gear. I need some e.t. streets so i can spray out of the hole. I also need a 3.42 or 3.55 gear because I dont even get out of second in the 1/8th (2.73 gear stock).
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Great job on your improvements to your 305.
I can understand and respect the idea behind taking what you got, and build on it.
Some start with just the car, and rip out their stock motor and put in something better.
Some start with the car and the motor and say, heck I am going to build my 305 to the best it can be. Which I can totally respect that.
I can even respect it when someone does this with their V6 or 4 Cylinder as long as they don’t make claims such as, you can get more power out of a V6 than a v8.
What I have a hard time respecting is when someone takes their front wheel drive import, replaces the chassis with a tube frame, replaces their engine with a Chevy, put in a ford 9” rear and turns it into a rear wheel drive, replaces all their interior with light weight parts, replaces the body panels with carbon fiber, then even tries to claim the car is still a such and such. But that is another story all together.
But I can totally respect what you did with your car.
Sure, you can put a 350 in, or a 383, or 400, etc, and have an easier time making it perform better, but sometimes it’s not about the easy path.
Sometimes it is fun to be the underdog.
And for all of us that really do own 3rd Gens, we all know what its like to be that underdog.
While I would rather have a 350 or greater in my car, I can respect all of the 305 build-ups.
Good Job.
I can understand and respect the idea behind taking what you got, and build on it.
Some start with just the car, and rip out their stock motor and put in something better.
Some start with the car and the motor and say, heck I am going to build my 305 to the best it can be. Which I can totally respect that.
I can even respect it when someone does this with their V6 or 4 Cylinder as long as they don’t make claims such as, you can get more power out of a V6 than a v8.
What I have a hard time respecting is when someone takes their front wheel drive import, replaces the chassis with a tube frame, replaces their engine with a Chevy, put in a ford 9” rear and turns it into a rear wheel drive, replaces all their interior with light weight parts, replaces the body panels with carbon fiber, then even tries to claim the car is still a such and such. But that is another story all together.
But I can totally respect what you did with your car.
Sure, you can put a 350 in, or a 383, or 400, etc, and have an easier time making it perform better, but sometimes it’s not about the easy path.
Sometimes it is fun to be the underdog.
And for all of us that really do own 3rd Gens, we all know what its like to be that underdog.
While I would rather have a 350 or greater in my car, I can respect all of the 305 build-ups.
Good Job.
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I would probably say so, I haven't seen any 305 faster than low 13's n/a in my life outside of this board.
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Matt, I think you do have the quickest n/a 305. I've seen another post tho the guy may have matched your mph but wasnt launching as hard so he didnt ET as well, still high 12's tho. it was a xe276/cc503 cammed car. Roller cam
whats your 60 foot times? do you have a converter with higher stall speed? With 3.42's and 2800 stall or so, you'll be getting well into the 13's. My L98 was doin mid low 13's with 79-80mph 1/8 mile traps
I launch hard off the stall, and spray it in second gear. I need some e.t. streets so i can spray out of the hole. I also need a 3.42 or 3.55 gear because I dont even get out of second in the 1/8th (2.73 gear stock).
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whats cool is when i do searches, i see threads for 01/02 and there's lots of 305 pulling some pretty big #'s and quick et's.
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Yes I have a Precision 2500 stall converter, nothing major. I didn't want to go any higher because I hate driving a car on the street with a high stall speed converter. I didn't bother getting the slips because I wasn't impressed with it, I know the car has a lot more left in it.
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my car is quickly slipping into all out drag car, but i can still slap a set of street tires on it and ride down the street. thing is, i think i have less motor than you do 89305formula. i'm not happy with my 12.3x's, i want 11.7x's, lol! i'm doing a solid camshaft swap soon, and trying to get more weight off the front of the car as well. i'm just setting mine up for the inevitable...big motor eventually, lol!
if i had the money, i'd do a t56 so i could still drive it more than once a weekend, it's just too frickin' expensive to put a 700r4 in the car that will live behind any kind of real hp. that's why after 3 stockers and 1 built 700r4, i went to the th350. seein's how the car will most likely ALWAYS be more of a drag car than anything else, i think i'll stick with the 3spd/auto's...
if i had the money, i'd do a t56 so i could still drive it more than once a weekend, it's just too frickin' expensive to put a 700r4 in the car that will live behind any kind of real hp. that's why after 3 stockers and 1 built 700r4, i went to the th350. seein's how the car will most likely ALWAYS be more of a drag car than anything else, i think i'll stick with the 3spd/auto's...
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Thats more torque than most cammed full bolt on LS1's. A good friend of mine with an 01 WS6, we did a head and cam swap with full boltons. We went with Precision Racing Stage 2.5 CNC'd 5.3 heads, and a Torquer V2 cam (not huge, but respectable), with typical bolt ons and it made 405 ft lbs, Granted it made 435 hp.
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I would definitely go with a bigger cam than an L98 if I was trying to put up those numbers on motor, but then again I tend to overshoot.
No 1/4 mile tracks within about 2 hours from here, but I ran it Sunday 1/8th mile and ran a 9.09 @ 79 mph, and backed it up with a 9.07 @ 79 mph. I couldn't spray it in first, the car goes sideways....
That equates to a low 14, high 13 by a conversion chart. I have no idea if those things are right or not.
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I would definitely go with a bigger cam than an L98 if I was trying to put up those numbers on motor, but then again I tend to overshoot.
No 1/4 mile tracks within about 2 hours from here, but I ran it Sunday 1/8th mile and ran a 9.09 @ 79 mph, and backed it up with a 9.07 @ 79 mph. I couldn't spray it in first, the car goes sideways....
That equates to a low 14, high 13 by a conversion chart. I have no idea if those things are right or not.
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Okay so you took a stock motor, threw on a few bolt-ons and sprayed 75hp and you and your friends are impressed with the results?
I think you should all be indifferent about the results.
You used nitrous and made power. It is kind of proven as far as modifications go, right?
Granted you can move forward with any size SBC later on with these mods. But, it is nothing more than a 305 with spray. Hell, we've sprayed a Tempo before just for giggles and it responded as expected.
As for the 305 haters: I have a 305 and hate it, as it is a limiting factor. BUT! It moves as well as any stock 350, which makes it fun enough.
I think you should all be indifferent about the results.
You used nitrous and made power. It is kind of proven as far as modifications go, right?
Granted you can move forward with any size SBC later on with these mods. But, it is nothing more than a 305 with spray. Hell, we've sprayed a Tempo before just for giggles and it responded as expected.
As for the 305 haters: I have a 305 and hate it, as it is a limiting factor. BUT! It moves as well as any stock 350, which makes it fun enough.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
motorheadmike has the right idea. Although there r some mods on the 305 nitrous makes power regaurdless of the motor. But i beleave someone earlier said nitrous is cheating. How?? Its the progression of technology and the greatest bang for the buck in the automotive performance industry. Just as the LS1 has a superior power curve to basically any GM motor before it, it acheives such power levels due to the progression of technology. Reguardless if the 305 is sprayed or not or lesser than a similar L98 or whatever, the point is you can take a motor that was the first to bring "performance" back to fbodys since all the crap late 70's early 80's motors and make a solid performer out of it with not to much work or coin. Its really a testiment to how much the performance aftermarket has grown and made advancments making speed and power much more affordable and obtainable. and i do believe not to long ago there was a 9 second turbo 305 Z28 in car craft, i dig it.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
nitrous is cheating because its the performance enhancing drug for cars, its not "naturally aspirated" u made power with a chemical not mechanical.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
I never could understand why people say nitrous is cheating. If you're racing and agree to not use the bottle, then use it, then yea it's cheating. It's like saying a turbo is cheating, since the engine is not just sucking ambient air in on it's own.
It's like swapping all the fluids for high performance ones, and being told "thats cheating, cuz you got fluids with different chemical make-ups."
How about all the methanol and alcohol engines? They use different fuels, due to the fact that it simply burns better, cooler, and contains a higher oxygen content. It's not cheating, it's common sense.
Take $10,000 and build a "all motor" car with say 500hp. Now take a pretty much stock engine, with say 250hp, and spray 150 shot for an additional $400. I call that getting the most out of your money. Use that other $9600 for more useful things, like beer and strippers... OK OK, maybe a supercharger or a set of blow dryers.
Bottom line, IMO, is that injecting another gas, to increase the amount of oxygen in the charge, is not cheating, it's common sense...
It's like swapping all the fluids for high performance ones, and being told "thats cheating, cuz you got fluids with different chemical make-ups."
How about all the methanol and alcohol engines? They use different fuels, due to the fact that it simply burns better, cooler, and contains a higher oxygen content. It's not cheating, it's common sense.
Take $10,000 and build a "all motor" car with say 500hp. Now take a pretty much stock engine, with say 250hp, and spray 150 shot for an additional $400. I call that getting the most out of your money. Use that other $9600 for more useful things, like beer and strippers... OK OK, maybe a supercharger or a set of blow dryers.
Bottom line, IMO, is that injecting another gas, to increase the amount of oxygen in the charge, is not cheating, it's common sense...
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
not that I dont like n/a motors, the 350 in my Nova is n/a but the flip side is it took a big cam of death and a good (say expensive if youd like) set of heads to build the power it does. now i could have saved quite a bit of money built less motor and sprayed it probably would run just as hard as it does now, except i wouldnt be shifting at 7400. but the car is period correct street race style so no nitrous is ever gonna make it under that hood. now my L98 is gettin a bottle, you just cant beat the drivability & perfomance that nitrous offers. But different strokes for different folks, as long as its fast who cares really
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
I like the fact that nitrous is cheap (compared to other power adders) and its hp whenever you want to spray it, but I dont know I just dont trust it unless the motor was specifically built for nitrous.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
You spend your $500 on motor, and I'll spend my $500 on a couple bolt ons and spray. I'll see you in the rear view....
I have heard this arguement for years, "I don't like nitrous, I think its cheating". Hahahaha. This is more like it: "I get outran by nitrous cars with less money than I have in my car."
I have heard this arguement for years, "I don't like nitrous, I think its cheating". Hahahaha. This is more like it: "I get outran by nitrous cars with less money than I have in my car."
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
yeah but as soon as that bottle runs outta nos haha then what you gonna do
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
50 more dollars per bottle to fill it up... that adds up in the long run. you run that bottle for a year, fill it up 10 times that year, thats 500 bucks spent right there. you may beable to get that hp permanently with a cam/heads work job, for just a few hundred more bucks.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
It is definitely time to do something else to the car. I am thinking a xr258 cam, 3.42, and a Detroit True Trac (factory posi is on the fritz @ 125,000 miles). So there goes the power on a budget, but with all that it will be much faster on motor. I am also thinking a walbro 255lph pump and a 125-150 shot. Should be pretty stout.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
The one I built is street driven and is faster. It only had a driverseat in it when it ran a 11.8 @ 119.1, but it was a NA TBI 312 (.040" over 305). 4L60E trans with a 3,600 rpm stall converter in it. It still gets 20 mpg on a daily drive.
This is its best run...
--RT = .380s
0060'= 1.95s
0330'= 5.11s @ 71.7 mph
0660'= 7.65s @ 96.2 mph
1000'= 9.94s @ 104.3 mph
1320'= 11.83 @ 119.1 mph
This is its best run...
--RT = .380s
0060'= 1.95s
0330'= 5.11s @ 71.7 mph
0660'= 7.65s @ 96.2 mph
1000'= 9.94s @ 104.3 mph
1320'= 11.83 @ 119.1 mph
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
No matter what you have, if you tweak on it, you learn. I think the original post showed a good result for the money spent and what he had to work with. And as far as 350s, in my mind, building a 350 is not the smart choice either, since a stroker crank and correct pistons for a 383 cost exactly the same, and no longer require a dedicated flywheel or damper.
So, tweak what you have, learn and share with the rest of us. And whatever you do, there will ALWAYS be several people on this board to pee in your cornflakes, sometimes it's me!
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So, tweak what you have, learn and share with the rest of us. And whatever you do, there will ALWAYS be several people on this board to pee in your cornflakes, sometimes it's me!
Good job
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
No matter what you have, if you tweak on it, you learn. I think the original post showed a good result for the money spent and what he had to work with. And as far as 350s, in my mind, building a 350 is not the smart choice either, since a stroker crank and correct pistons for a 383 cost exactly the same, and no longer require a dedicated flywheel or damper.
So, tweak what you have, learn and share with the rest of us. And whatever you do, there will ALWAYS be several people on this board to pee in your cornflakes, sometimes it's me!
Good job
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So, tweak what you have, learn and share with the rest of us. And whatever you do, there will ALWAYS be several people on this board to pee in your cornflakes, sometimes it's me!
Good job
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
You can put a 75 shot on anything and it would make good power for the money invested. Show us something new. Its not rocket science.
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
Originally Posted by mw66nova
do i have the fastest street driven n/a 305 on here?
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Re: For all you 305 haters out there...
I dont know about anyone on the board thats a pretty bold statement. Stock for stock maybe, but there are people on this board with thousands tied up in suspension and drivetrain mods. I would like to see him vs a full bolt on l98 car with k member, stb, rear traction arms, full coil overs, sub frames, panhard, some realy nice shocks, aftermarket a arms, and some soft tires. Just like to wach.
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