Hey guys wanted opinions on which runner is better. i plan on getting some soon, just don't know which ones now. What do you guys think is better and will as&m work with the big mouth base?

 

They are the same. TPIS gets them from AS&M. I believe TPIS charges more for them though. I have read about some guys having problems getting them from AS&M (taking forever). You can do a search to find out more about that.

 

They're the same and yes they will work with the bigmouth base.

 

TPIS does some porting/smoothing on the inside of the runners in order to flow a "bit" better.

 

I dont think so. The ASM runners are already done in that area, no room for porting of any sort.

 

I find that very hard to believe since the inside of AS&M runners are already as smooth as possible "out of the box". The aluminum walls on these runners are already super thin to begin with. It would be literally impossible to smooth them out any further without going right through the walls of the runners themselves. They're basically paper-thing to begin with.

Also, as others have stated, AS&M actually supply TPIS with their runners and TPIS just re-packages them under their own name. They're both the same thing.

Having said all that, I'd phone BOTH companies ahead of time to double check whether or not they actually have a set in stock. Otherwise, you just might find yourself waiting a ridiculous amount of time for them to arrive. The group purchase I started for AS&M runners on this forum lasted forever it seemed. AS&M took their sweet time building those runners for us and some people waited nearly a year to get theirs. Not cool. You don't want that ending up happening to you so call first to check what their supply is.

From what I've heard, AS&M might actually be ceasing production of their runners all together which means that TPIS would no longer have runners either since their's are built by AS&M. That would leave only Edelbrock and SLP as the two remaining choices unless you wanted to spend the big bucks and go for a complete system like the F.I.R.S.T intake.

For pictures of the AS&M runners (including pictures of their insides) check my signature. As you can see, they're already perfectly smooth on the inside and no porting is required or even possible for that matter.

 

Calling TPIS to check stock is a waste of time, there's a post elsewhere about it. They said they had them in stock during the ASM group purchase fiasco, but they didnt and he had to wait anyway.

 

Sorry for the thread hi-jack, but, how much do the AS&M runners go for? Thanks!

Edit: What's their web site addy? Thanks again!

 

http://www.azspeed-marine.com/ Try using Google next time.

 

This is what I got from Google, http://asm.com/ So please, stop and think before you "lash out" and ASSume something, thanks for the addy

 

I used Yahoo, typed "arizona speed and marine" and got the correct address as the first choice. *shrug*

 

I did stop & think. I typed "arizona speed and marine" into Google and the FIRST result was www.azspeed-marine.com/. Maybe you ASSumed you spelled everything correctly?

 

Nope sorry, no ASSuming here. I didn't know that AS&M stood for Arizona Speed and Marine. Had I known that, I would've typed it in and got the info I needed. Thanks again!