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Old 02-08-2001, 10:16 AM
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Your friends car?????? I want to race your car!!!!!.
Your mods are bull**** as are you.
Of course I am not going to be in your neck of the woods this friday hence your stupid challenge.
I could care less about your bull**** mustang which again the mods look like bull****.
Keep searching the net for your mods.

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No Gears for that by any Ford rear'

Fact: You can't go 135 MPH in a 700R4.


You keep dodgeing the questions. You stupid *** that cam is for a 350 long runner intake car not a 383 carbed car.

Like I said-I'll come up there in March and I want to see the car. I want to run YOU. Not your friend YOU.

I could come up here and say my name is BO and I kill locals.

Your mythical 351 stang is no match for me TROLL. But the camao is if its for real. You must be making some real good money in the military for that kind of car.

BTW who has the fastest third gen in your club?
President?


Keep dodging the qeustions troll.
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I just got an email from from a club member with a 9 sec GTA(Maroon).
He knows nothing of you. If you are so fast I am sure you know the name of this guy.

Again I repeat. What kind of piston are you running?

I am sure you wil spout off how fast you are and for me to meet you out on the road
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Fact: You can't go 135 MPH in a 700R4.</font>
Yeah, especially with a 213 deg cam that will be all done by 5k rpm in a 383.

ODB... If you are gonna spew sh*t on the net, at least take the time to learn a little bit about cars first.
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Hey remember now... it will hit 7000rpm 'easy'

What springs are you running? Either specs or part number and manufacturer. And what lifters? Same deal there, although on those I would prefer the manufacturer and part number.
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
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How did I get involved in this???

For what its worth, I know two thirdgens in SoCal, both Morgan Motorsports cars, that have run 10's with 700R4's, one over 140 MPH.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
Jesus H Christ, you cant answer a simple question???, quit dodgeing it already. You claimed a 10.9 @ 124 mph with the 74216 cam on a 383 and 700R4 trans, TFS heads normally aspirated..... That is my bet. You cant and wont ever hit those mph with that setup YOU claimed you did. I will bet 1000 bucks on it. </font>

Yes I take the bet. And you already lost it because it happend back in 1999, and will continue to happen with those parts. What in the world is your question now?
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A car like his with a 700R4 will not go 135MPH period.
I figured you would pick him apart Kevin especially after advising a kid to stick nitrous on a TPI car with heads and stock injectors. Forgive my ignorance.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by madmax:
Hey remember now... it will hit 7000rpm 'easy'

What springs are you running? Either specs or part number and manufacturer. And what lifters? Same deal there, although on those I would prefer the manufacturer and part number.
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The springs are the small dia. that come on the base TFS heads. I have not changed them yet. The lifters I got used and are CompCams retro style hydraulic rollers. Don't have the part numbers, sorry

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No F*#king way that combo is making power at 7k rpm...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And you already lost it because it happend back in 1999, and will continue to happen with those parts</font>
LOL For your sake, you had better hope so.

Only question now is how much further your willing to look like a complete clown..

I didnt know it still snows in March. Get your "124" mph car on the road by then, and we will come up with the money, to your track. I actually have that exact same cam (74216) to match with the one you yank out after you run 124 mph with the 700R4 and TFS heads normally aspirated.. I am sure you will have it done by then to take our money lol. Dont try and hide a bottle either, or i will take your money before you even get down the track.

The only question now is if you will show up. I highly doubt, it . But hey, I sure hope you do.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
I just got an email from from a club member with a 9 sec GTA(Maroon).
He knows nothing of you. If you are so fast I am sure you know the name of this guy.

Again I repeat. What kind of piston are you running?

I am sure you wil spout off how fast you are and for me to meet you out on the road
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I don't have a clue what club or what guy you are talking about since you don't say.
Here is the email of the guy that runs the other message board and lives in my town:
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in 1999 the pistons I ran were TRW forged .030

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
LOL For your sake, you had better hope so.

Only question now is how much further your willing to look like a complete clown..

I didnt know it still snows in March. Get your "124" mph car on the road by then, and we will come up with the money, to your track. I actually have that exact same cam (74216) to match with the one you yank out after you run 124 mph with the 700R4 and TFS heads normally aspirated.. I am sure you will have it done by then to take our money lol. Dont try and hide a bottle either, or i will take your money before you even get down the track.

The only question now is if you will show up. I highly doubt, it . But hey, I sure hope you do.
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who is looking like a clown here? and how did you get to be a moderator with an attitude like yours?

There is no question about me showing. I just told you where I live and you have my email, and you have the email of another person in my town. The bet is on, but I am not living on your time schedule or by your demands. You do not tell me what I will do, so back off with that.

No problem we will yank the cam and bring your mic.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
A car like his with a 700R4 will not go 135MPH period.
I figured you would pick him apart Kevin especially after advising a kid to stick nitrous on a TPI car with heads and stock injectors. Forgive my ignorance.
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Nope, One of those cars is a 355 IROC with a Miniram, big converter, and lots of nitrous. The other is a 406 with a SuperRam, big converter, and lots of nitrous.

I've never recommended to anyone to stick nitrous on their car. I am not a nitrous supporter as I prefer to make my power with just air. Are you confusing me with someone else?
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Somebody please get a video of this.

Oh, also, I'd like to see some pics of those broken valvetrain pieces after you rev that thing to 7k rpm with those TFS POS 1.25" springs! LMAO!!!

So are those .030" TRW Heavy-as-bowling-ball pistons Flat-tops or what?

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No part numbers.. but close.

The comp retrofits are identical to their stock chevy replacements internally. They are only good to 6500 max, then they come apart and tear apart the valvetrain. 6000 is what comp suggests. Without a rev kit, you will hit float around 6200 with good springs because the internal springs cant handle it, but you dont have that. At 7000, the lifters with the stock TFS springs would fly right off the cam, and I dont think I need to explain what happens then.

I know now for sure you are a troll. Go away please.

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Whre exactly off of West Main street do you live.. Near the Altoff Catholic High, or down past by the cemetary on the 9900 block??
I got relatives that used to live there.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">You do not tell me what I will do, so back off with that.</font>
Like I said , I will be there in March. Get off your *** and have it ready by then. I sure am not going to waste my time on coming there months later. You should be lucky I was already planning to be there this spring.

If not, I am sure your willing to come to Md.... and take my money LOL




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yep flattops.
you must be right so I must have a bad tachometer. I'm probably shifting out around 4000 rpms instead.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
Whre exactly off of West Main street do you live.. Near the Altoff Catholic High, or down past by the cemetary on the 9900 block??
I got relatives that used to live there.

You do not tell me what I will do, so back off with that.</font>
Like I said , I will be there in March. Get off your *** and have it ready by then. I sure am not going to waste my time on coming there months later. You should be lucky I was already planning to be there this spring.

If not, I am sure your willing to come to Md.... and take my money LOL


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You are slow in more ways than one. I already told you exactly where I live. I said nothing about mainstreet or westmainstreet or Altoff. I am right down the road from Southwester Illinois College.


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OBD, your full of ****, end of story.

Now then, anyone else have some ideas? LOL. I might be laughing my *** off about OBD here, but I'm still stuck with a slow iroc that leaks oil like it's a job.

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Great, I know where that is. Relatives went to school there.

March 24th, be ready with the 1000 bucks. That is the weekend I will be in your area..

That gives you MORE than plenty of time to make up all of your of excuses why you cant make it. LOL

Nothing funnier than seeing some BSer backpeddle soo much after being called out.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
Great, I know where that is. Relatives went to school there.

March 24th, be ready with the 1000 bucks. That is the weekend I will be in your area..

That gives you MORE than plenty of time to make up all of your of excuses why you cant make it. LOL

Nothing funnier than seeing some BSer backpeddle soo much after being called out.
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the 24th is saturday night so Gateway should be open. Don't forget the cash.
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what converter you running? there is no mention of one in your signature. Need a 1.4x 60ft to even consider it legit.

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do you happen to know a Navy Blue 99 Trans Am in the area (St Louis) that street races?
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Done deal. List the mods you are going to run for your 10.9@124 timeslip. This is for teardown purposes..

The only thing I am sure of is your running normally aspirated, LPE 74216 cam , TFS heads on a 383 motor, 700R4 trans.

Also you can name the time to meet up and where. I can find my way around Belleville, my mom ,grew up there.. As for who holds the cash, we can both agree on someone in the MFBA if they will want to show up to watch.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Matt98SS:
do you happen to know a Navy Blue 99 Trans Am in the area (St Louis) that street races? </font>
not sure about the 99T/A, but my friends is a blue 98T/A with welds.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
Done deal. List the mods you are going to run for your 10.9@124 timeslip. This is for teardown purposes..

The only thing I am sure of is your running normally aspirated, LPE 74216 cam , TFS heads on a 383 motor, 700R4 trans.

Also you can name the time to meet up and where. I can find my way around Belleville, my mom ,grew up there.. As for who holds the cash, we can both agree on someone in the MFBA if they will want to show up to watch.

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I'm cool with a MFBA member holding the money no problem. How about Keith because he is close by?


As for mods, you can assume the list below except without the nitrous. I may also be running ET-streets (not sure on that). And I may be using an electric exhaust cutout by then (not sure).

for the other person: in 1999 it usually sixty footed in the 1.60 range with a best of 1.58
I was launching at 1200rpm feathering the throttle. You cannot see the nose lift on the video, so it is a very easy launch. The video was shot at Gateway raceway which is a 1/4 mile track, and has never run 1000' to my knowledge. If it was 1000' then how would you explain 124mph trapspeed? that makes no sense because you claim I am slower than that.
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N/A runs 10.9 @124,
Crack-runs 10.3 @135
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I think I'll make a few friends with this one (and a couple of enemies)... LOL



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You know I think ODB is laughing either because we believe him,, or we don’t. It’s a loose-loose deal. I remember back in the late 80’s and early 90’s when I would say I was going to try something “out side the box”, my friends that already knew what I was capable of building and running would still laugh sometimes. Most of the time the laugh was on them. Now folks are reading that “laughable” info from HP books, Lingenfelter, David Vizard, and yes,, even magazines articles (from reputable sources). By no means have I done or know it all. I’ve done a lot of real world knuckle busting R&D, applying “principles”, and have built and helped build a number of really fast carbed street machines. I’ve built a few pump gas SBCs that went over 600 horses in the cell,, one propelled a 3200lb N/A “race car” on pump gas to 10.14’s quarter mile times (1.30’s in the 60). Back in 1996 most “racers” would consider the cam mild,, although about 50 more degrees at .050 than ODB’s. Today,, I’ve seen more than one publication dynoing similar combinations with similar numbers. So,,, in and before 1996 I might have been called a liar, or TROLL, while today it’s like old news.

I’ve got a 206 win – 4 loss grudge race record and only 1 loss surprised the hell out of me,, and I’m still scratching my head three years later. I’m not claiming to be all that fast,, but I am a good judge of machinery. IMO unless ODB has SERIOUS head work,, and gutted the car,, I’d give him a 1 out of 210 (that’s less than a 1%) chance in running 10.90’s. Never less, a chance. However, throw in comments like “only high 9’s” NA with basically the same combination, then it make me think that chance is a lot closer to none, but what do I know? I like to see it if he can.

For the small cam non-believers - Lingenfelter built a 427 SB2, CNC’ed SB2 heads, 2.125 (?) / 1.625 valves, “small” 224* split pattern cam (a solid roller), 12” primary headers, 3310 750 Vacuum carb, and a Nascar type intake – best I remember it pushed over 580 horses @ 6600 rpm. With a 1200cfm FI set up it pulled right at 630 horses around 6800 rpm with just an unholy torque curve!! What does this have to do with The ODB? I just like the fact that a “small” cam CAN make serious power (and RPM) with a hoss set of heads. The old TFS “twisted wedge” heads with 13* intake can pull over 320 cfm when properly prepared with a “small” port – good HP,, and torque!! Is his TFS heads “fully” ported? How much does the car weigh? Is he running something like the AFR Hydra-rev system – which I know nothing of? I do know the weight, heads, and cubes make a huge impact on what the car is capable of running. At any rate,, I’m NOT taking sides, or sticking up for anyone I don't know. However, thank you ODB for at least setting a fire under my a$$ to start questioning myself,, and to start experimenting again. The combos I build haven’t changed a lot in the last 5 years and complacency eventually makes you a looser in this “business”.


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I'm just passing by so i really do care what you guys believe or say. I am here to speak up and say that the times Bo(ODB) are claiming are true! I have seen the car run several 10.9s ON THE MOTOR. I dont know if he said or not but on his 10.3 pass, the nitrous line before the plate was split and leaking more nitrous then it was getting into the engine. I have know doubt that his car will run high 9s on et street this year.

If you guys are betting money let me know because i need to make some extra cash so i'll bet on ODB. BTW that cam he is running he bought that from me. I had a 383 iroc with afr 195s and completely stock TPI. That car ran 12.5s at 107 with 1.8 60's on mickey thompson competitors.
As for the person that said they dont make 3.25 factory gears. Put some money on that too. Have you ever heard of 2.75,3.00,3.25,3.50? Well bo had a hard time finding these gears mostly came in trucks and wagons.
You guys might learn a thing or two from him, so you might want to be nicer he's a great guy and i'm sure hes not here to flame anyone or give bad advice.

If you guys dont believe me then thats fine also, its your loss.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Linginfelter-TPI camshaft part number 74216 pulls 17" vacuum solid. Cam specs 213/219 @.050 114-LSA, sometimes advertised at 216/219 @.050 112-LSA .462/.470 lift @1.5:1 ratio.</font>
Ok I see you modified this a little ways down the thread. But the specs I have for the 74216 LPE cam are 213/219 with a 112 LS Yet you say the cam is sometimes advertised as 2 other cam specs also??? How did you get those numbers. We can meet at Gateway itself if you want. To go over again the bet, you MUST hit at least 124 mph and a 10.9 with the LPE cam normally aspirated. you also mentioned that your car is not gutted. I will have that 74216 with me to check the one pulled out. I want the tear down at the track.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin G:
Ok I see you modified this a little ways down the thread. But the specs I have for the 74216 LPE cam are 213/219 with a 112 LS Yet you say the cam is sometimes advertised as 2 other cam specs also??? How did you get those numbers. We can meet at Gateway itself if you want. To go over again the bet, you MUST hit at least 124 mph and a 10.9 with the LPE cam normally aspirated. you also mentioned that your car is not gutted. I will have that 74216 with me to check the one pulled out. I want the tear down at the track.

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The conflicting specs are from the cam-card which I do not have (maybe Shawn has it), and what is printed in John Lingenfelter's book on page 104.
Meeting at the track is fine as long as the weather cooperates. I live 30mins from Gateway and prefer to teardown at my house if you don't mind. The track officials would raise a stink if a TT car did a teardown spilling fluids on their property. They only allow that for the big money racers when the officials demand the teardown.
I'm pretty sure the part number is on the cam, but if not how will you measure duration? Also will pulling one head be enough for you? Will you have the tools to measure my bore & stroke?

Hitting 124 is no problem since I did it before with an out-of-the-box carb and no ram air.
I never mentioned anything about the car not being gutted or the race weight. I do not race with the seats in it other than the driverseat. Many parts are removed from the car. The race weight was 2950 lbs when I made the runs in my sig. You were a bit off on your guess of 3500 lbs, but then again you never asked me. I don't consider it gutted myself as it has power seat and windows, all the glass and only the hood is fiberglass. The config of the car is completely my choice, so other opinions make no difference to me. I still drive the camaro from St Louis to Atlanta to visit family pretty regular, just rarely in winter.

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I am comming with kevin G and I am racing against the camaro.
I could care less about you using another user name(Nice try) but no way you are going that fast with that stuff on the car.
325 gears? Where did you get them from? No mention. I could claim I have 412s in my car and took forever to find them. I have never heard of them for the 9".
If you run 10.9s should be interesting-unlike you my car is not gutted.

So you have a 2400 stall and 325 gears eh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You fail to answer my qestion-I have no talked to 20 people from that club who have never heard of you. I have talked to 3 hard core street racers from chicago-again nothing.
You still have not answered the questions on who owns the GTA or the pres of the club-I guess you need more time to find the answers on the net.
LPE cams are marked-so we will see if you are running that cam

And again your tech advice sucks. Period.
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And OBD is on the ropes!! Ripping punches to the jaw!! To the body!! What is keeping him up, I have no idea!! ODB refuses to go down!! The referee is watching closely... ODB is swinging, but he just can't connect!! Please ref!! Stop this insanity!! ODB's mom is on the apron, begging the for the carnage to end!! Ooooooh!! He's just about to go!! It won't be long now fans!! Another right to the head!! And ODB is down!! ODB is down!! And he's not gonna get up!!! That's it!! It's over!!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
I am comming with kevin G and I am racing against the camaro.
I could care less about you using another user name(Nice try) but no way you are going that fast with that stuff on the car.
325 gears? Where did you get them from? No mention. I could claim I have 412s in my car and took forever to find them. I have never heard of them for the 9".
If you run 10.9s should be interesting-unlike you my car is not gutted.

So you have a 2400 stall and 325 gears eh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You fail to answer my qestion-I have no talked to 20 people from that club who have never heard of you. I have talked to 3 hard core street racers from chicago-again nothing.
You still have not answered the questions on who owns the GTA or the pres of the club-I guess you need more time to find the answers on the net.
LPE cams are marked-so we will see if you are running that cam

And again your tech advice sucks. Period.
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Ok I've been biting my lip for a while, but I have to say it. 92LX you are a freaking idiot. There is no better way to put it plain and simple.
The 3.25 ratio is from ford,
they made them for years.... you idiot

I never said I was from Chicago... you idiot

I never said I was in a club...you idiot

I never said anything about a GTA... you idiot

Tell me how does it feel to be such a retard? people must take advantage of you constantly. I am not obligated to answer any of your stupid flaming questions. I am not going to race you ever because I don't even care to. If you want to add money to the pile I'm making in the other bet then go for it.
Finally YOU 92LX have earned this more than anyone else on here. Wear the title proudly.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
I am comming with kevin G and I am racing against the camaro.
I could care less about you using another user name(Nice try) but no way you are going that fast with that stuff on the car.
325 gears? Where did you get them from? No mention. I could claim I have 412s in my car and took forever to find them. I have never heard of them for the 9".
If you run 10.9s should be interesting-unlike you my car is not gutted.

So you have a 2400 stall and 325 gears eh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You fail to answer my qestion-I have no talked to 20 people from that club who have never heard of you. I have talked to 3 hard core street racers from chicago-again nothing.
You still have not answered the questions on who owns the GTA or the pres of the club-I guess you need more time to find the answers on the net.
LPE cams are marked-so we will see if you are running that cam

And again your tech advice sucks. Period.
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Here you go retard! You can see that we are NOT the same person. So nice try on your behalf butt nugget.
Why would Bo know anybody from chi town, i'm not sure if he's ever been there.
Again your a complete retard, if you have never seen factory 3.25 ford gears. You guys are just like everyone else that cant believe it. You'll make excusses when you see him run the #s wont you. Again i want in on the bet, who wants to bet with me, i have 1000.

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Did anyone else notice the + in front of his crack numbers, what's he have huh.
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Personally I want to see a 7.5 posi 10 bolt live thru a 10 second quarter...no way one will live especially with slicks or stickies..considering I have exploded several in my previous Malibu..a stock 305 4bbl auto..on street tires..

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Blah blah blah.

You have a link to the MFBA in which NO ONE from that club knows who you are. Those guys are local to you and have some of the fastest F bodies in your area.

kevin G knows people from your home town-again noone has heard from you.

Only an *** like you would suggest those mods for the orginal post. Your other posts rival a trained monkey in terms of smarts hick boy. N20 with heads and stock injectors. I had bad days at work and had good laughs at your tech advice in the past on this board(I read but don't post much since I lost my bird)

Show me a link to where 325 gears in a inch were ford gears.

Talk is cheap-I hope for your sake you run those times because I do and will take your money. And there is no way in hell you run those parts if you are that fast even if the car weighs 2800 pounds. Saying your tach is off due to making power at 7 grand-please any 9 sec or 10 sec car will have a decent tach. You can't even list your mods or answer my simple questions. I will be happy to list mine. Feel free to contact those MFBA guys-they know of me and my car.

March is tha date. Unless I break(which could damn happen)you will lose to me. The other easy money is the tear down. Don't worry Kevin G can put it back together fast if he is not wasted or dying from laughter.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SATURN5:
Personally I want to see a 7.5 posi 10 bolt live thru a 10 second quarter...no way one will live especially with slicks or stickies..considering I have exploded several in my previous Malibu..a stock 305 4bbl auto..on street tires..

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Well, this post is getting way too long. Since it has turned non tech. Lets continue this on Macs board. ( NETHIRDGEN www.nethirdgen.org at their nontech forum)

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:
Blah blah blah.

You have a link to the MFBA in which NO ONE from that club knows who you are. Those guys are local to you and have some of the fastest F bodies in your area.

kevin G knows people from your home town-again noone has heard from you.

Only an *** like you would suggest those mods for the orginal post. Your other posts rival a trained monkey in terms of smarts hick boy. N20 with heads and stock injectors. I had bad days at work and had good laughs at your tech advice in the past on this board(I read but don't post much since I lost my bird)

Show me a link to where 325 gears in a inch were ford gears.

Talk is cheap-I hope for your sake you run those times because I do and will take your money. And there is no way in hell you run those parts if you are that fast even if the car weighs 2800 pounds. Saying your tach is off due to making power at 7 grand-please any 9 sec or 10 sec car will have a decent tach. You can't even list your mods or answer my simple questions. I will be happy to list mine. Feel free to contact those MFBA guys-they know of me and my car.

March is tha date. Unless I break(which could damn happen)you will lose to me. The other easy money is the tear down. Don't worry Kevin G can put it back together fast if he is not wasted or dying from laughter.
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F9-300 COAZ4209A
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F9-325 B8AZ4209C
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F9-350 C9OZ4209A
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F9-370 37-10
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F9-389 B7AZ4209E
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F9-411 B7AZ4209K
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F9-456 41-9
4.56

F9-486 34-7
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hey The ODB do you have a 305 and a 383 in your car to get those times. let me guess the 305 just turns the blower for the 383. or is it an all wheel drive setup. or is the 305 just the starter engine for the 383? What gives man i don't beleve it either. I have seen and worked on some really fast cars that made alot more power than you could ever hope to have with that setup. I have driven and raced cars with 500+ hp at the rears that do not run what you do. I just want to know what is your secret? is it the high quality of public high school that is making you so fast? or is the g-tech 0-60 time and then the braking distance that you are quoting. Take some pics of your slips and post them and shut us all up man.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Many parts are removed from the car. The race weight was 2950 lbs when I made the runs in my sig. You were a bit off on your guess of 3500 lbs, but then again you never asked me. </font>
Woah, hold on here. I missed this. 2950 equals to about 60-70 less h.p. than I was thinking you needed to run those times when you mentioned you had a t-top car that wasnt gutted in another post. This changes everything. I never posted your car weighed 3500 pounds, but I dont consider a 2950 car to be not gutted either.
I will tell you what, I will send someone local I know to check your car out. If all of what your saying pans out, then I will call off the bet. There was another post of yours stating you only had subframes and minor piddley stuff and the car wasnt gutted.

One last question. If they track officials are soo strict about teardowns...working in the pits..., then how can you run a "10" second car with no cage??




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So its 11.8 with the 305 and carb, do I have that right?
How much did you pick up changing from TPI to carb? I *almost* did that about a year ago, but the POS Edelbrock perf RPM manifold I got (brand new btw) was machined wrong. Idiots. You would think they could throw a gasket on there to make sure when the gasket is lined up on the ports that you can see through the bolt holes....
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike 92LX:

Fact: You can't go 135 MPH in a 700R4.
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I'm not siding with ODB here because I still have my doubts about what his car can REALLY do but I do have to respond to the above quote from Mike 92LX!!

When I bought my '86 T/A it had 120,000 miles on it and was completely stock (still is)....I had my car, with 700R4, up to 125MPH before the limiter kicked in and the car was still accelerating...STOCK!! I don't recall exactly what the RPM's were but it couldn't have been close to redline because i watch that! Also, after I switched to my 350 turbo tranny I got my car up to the same speed (125 MPH) at only 5,000 RPM and the 700R4 was running in OD so it was much less than 5,000 RPM....again, STOCK!! So IMHO, I would say a built 383 could hit 135 MPH easy! Oh yeah, I have a stupid Borg Warner 9 bolt rear with 2.73 gears also .....and I still ran 125MPH!! I didn't hit 125MPH in the 1/4 tho' so like I said, I still have my doubts about ODB's claims....I just wanted to verify that you CAN run 125MPH with a 700R4 because I've done it so I feel 135MPH is poossible! I guess in a couple months when I finish my 383 and get my TCI 700R4, I'll find out just how fast I can go with that tranny!!



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LOL EDE, I guess there is still some technical talk here in this post. If anyone thinks this is out of hand , then I will move to MACs non-tech board.
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I don't have to listen to these wild allegations!!!
This is way out of hand, can someone please move this topic to the trash department?? It's just taking web space and it aint fixing nothing ar helping no one.
Trash it please!
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Well, I am getting a kick out of this. I haven't responded because well, G-berg and the rest have pretty much said it all. This guy is full of **** and I personally will leave this here so that all can see just how much of it he spews around so as not to get duped by this fool and follow his advise. If I had the power, I'd kick his dumb a$$ friend off the board too. Ahh well. I leave it here for the entertainment value also. G-Berg is one of the best I know at calling others out. Him and Mike92 as well as the ICON memebers have done a fantastic job at tearing him up. Too funny

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