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Old 07-30-2006, 03:07 PM
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best bang for the buck cylinder heads

well ive decided on edelbrock hi flo base and runners and a comp cam with about .474 lift on both sides 220 intake duration @ .50 and 224 exhaust duration @ .50 with 111lsa and it says its computer compaitiable. So what cylinder heads should i run with that cam and intake? I really dont want to look into buying at set of 1,000+ set of aluminum heads is there any good flowing heads under 1,000$ they can either be aluminum or iron doesnt matter to me.
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I would think the Edelbrock Performer heads would be you're ideal choice. I'll be using these heads and recomend them to anyone that is doing a budget build. They come with 2.02/1.60 valves, aluminum, 64cc-72cc, 160cc runners (fro the centerbolt style) and you're choice of angled or straight plug. Check them out.
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Definately check out this article if you havent yet. The Dart heads that Aero is advertising are a good bargain and seem to flow great on the exhaust and probably can be ported on the intake for future mods.

Cylinder Head Power Curves - Chevy High Performance Magazine
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vortecs and world products

vortec seems to be the cheapest next to world torkers are these heads anygood?
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Vortecs are cheaper but remember you need to add the extra dough for the intake. And if they are stock you need to do additional work to get them to performance spec. Aftermarket heads always leave a little room to grow compared to stock heads too.
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im hoping to get a pair of vortecs, edelbrock vortec tpi base, edelbrock runners, and a lt4 hot cam by the end of summer what kind of power should i get with that setup? It seems to be the cheapest setup out there for people who want ltr setup and have to pass emissions. Ive also been debating on whether or not to sell my slp 1 3/4 headers with 2 1/2 collectors and buy some hooker 1 5/8 3" collectors.
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imo, the TFS heads that flow 260cfm/195cc/62cc for $1239 arent a bad deal at all.
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How about Edelbrock E-Tecs? They're Vortec design, but aluminum, and they make 2 versions, one with larger valves and bigger ports.
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I would think the Edelbrock Performer heads would be you're ideal choice. I'll be using these heads and recomend them to anyone that is doing a budget build. They come with 2.02/1.60 valves, aluminum, 64cc-72cc, 160cc runners (fro the centerbolt style) and you're choice of angled or straight plug. Check them out.
There is no way those Edelbrock's are going to flow anything clsoe to what your LT1 intake and hotcam can, your wasting money there. I understand you are doing a budget build. But a budget build should also include doing it right the first time so you don't spend more money later!
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Why wouldn't those heads be good enough? My buddy is running a 355 with an HSR, Dart Iron Eagle 180's and a .503/.510 cam, and will prolly hit mid 12's with tuning. The E-heads outflow the IR 180's on the intake and have the same runner too. And his cam is way bigger than the Hotcam. I might not use the hotcam and use something bigger but I'm pretty sure the Performers will be more than what I need to reach the mid 12 mark I'm looking for. The motor will see nitrous too. I don't need a crazy ground pounder here, this is still going to be driven on the street.
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I just finished going through a thread with lots of replies from some dyno shops talking about this exact subject. The conclusion was that the Pro Topline/ RHS heads make the most power for the $$. This is not saying they are the best heads around but just affordable heads with decent performance. They say in all the dynos they have ever done that when you compare port sizes with all being equal that Dart heads make the most power out of everything they see including AFRs. They say Flow #s while they give a good idea of the performance of heads they are a very small part of the power the heads will actually put out.
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Why wouldn't those heads be good enough? My buddy is running a 355 with an HSR, Dart Iron Eagle 180's and a .503/.510 cam, and will prolly hit mid 12's with tuning. The E-heads outflow the IR 180's on the intake and have the same runner too. And his cam is way bigger than the Hotcam. I might not use the hotcam and use something bigger but I'm pretty sure the Performers will be more than what I need to reach the mid 12 mark I'm looking for. The motor will see nitrous too. I don't need a crazy ground pounder here, this is still going to be driven on the street.
I don't understand how a 160cc runner can flow enough? I mean that is barely more than a L98 iron head. But I haven't looked at their flow numbers. My WP Torquer 170's are killing me, and I have them ported!
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I was checking out some of the dart dyno stuff and found this article. When I first looked at it I was expecting some ridiculous cam. From everything I have seen these heads dont give up power anywhere. It has alot to do with port design not just the flow of the port.

Beck Racing Street 383 Chevrolet Small-Block Engine - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine

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REBUILD 350

I NEED HELP IM RE BUILDING MY 350 USEING FLAT HEADS PISTONS AM USEING 525.525 LIFT LT4 HOT CAM PUTING 72 CC TRICK FLOW HEADS 62CC -195CC INTAKE RUNNERS WITH HYPERTACH CHIP WOULD IT WORK OR DO I HALF TO TUNE IT WITH A COMPUTER WOULD IT RUN GOOD WITH STOCK INJECTERS 19#LB IAM ALSO PUTING THAT i HAVE 1/5.8 HEADERS 3 PIECE PULLIES SET FROM BBK IN MSD 6AL MSD WIRES IN MSD COIL IN. ASM RUNNERS IN INTAKE MANIFOILD BASE R THESE HEADS GOOD OR TRY TO GET OTHER KIND IN ALL SO ABOUT THIS CAM IS IT A GOOD ONE OR NOT LOOKING FOR A 10.1 COMPRESSION NOW MY ENGINE NEEDS TO BE REBULT BOBS SPEEDS SHOP HERE IN FORT LAUERDALE fl IS REBUILDING IT $1,650.00$ WITH STOCK 350 PARTS ALL I NO IS THAT HE IS PUTING HYPUTACTIC PISTONS I HAVE TO BUY THE CAM IN THE HEADS WOULD THESE MODS WORK WILL I GET 350 OR BETTER HORSE WITH THOSE PARTS TO GET IT AT 350 HORSE HELP GUYS LET ME NO THANKS LOOKING FOR 350 HORSE POWER AT RR WHO EVER READS THIS IF IT IS GOOD TELL ME IN ALL SO WITH COMPRESSION WILL i Be GETING thanks

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First Of all I would go with the Holley Stealth Ram intake. It's not that much more expensive and it will give you a lot better top end as well as great bottom end. I'm running that intake and dart iron eagle heads with a 200 cc intake runner. with a 230 cc intake runner I went 13.24 with a stock compression 355. Theres a store on ebay that you can get brand new dart iron eagle platniums with good springs completely assmbled and ready to bolt on for $895 including shipping. Looks for yoders engines or somethins like that. Or maybe it's yoders performance parts. just my .02.
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If your going to spend that money might as well get the Dart Pro 1s. They flow better than the Iron eagles and are aluminum and can be had for about the same price if you look around.
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