EGR Kit from SDPC
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From: Vineland, NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
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EGR Kit from SDPC
Finally got the engine out of the crate today and on its stand. Got a chance to open the remote mount EGR kit from scoggin dickey. All is was, was a bunch of TPI plenum gaskets, 2 tubes, and some more gaskets. WTF i paid 70 bucks for this.
There is one long tube, in the shape on an elongated V, about 12 inchesin length, with flanges on both sides...then the shorter tube is basically a flang with a 45 degree tube on it, about 6 inches in length. The longer tube has a fitting drilled into it, for what i dont know yet. I called scoggin dickey and asked why no instructions were in the kit, and the guy on the phone had a hardcore texan accent, said "yeeea thats because its a universal kit, are you running headers?" and i said yes...he said "yea youve got to basically drill a header and then run it to your EGR valve." um ok.
no clue how to do this, supposedly the intake base plate seen here:
has no EGR port in it, which is why I need the install kit
can someone give me a better idea of what to do?
There is one long tube, in the shape on an elongated V, about 12 inchesin length, with flanges on both sides...then the shorter tube is basically a flang with a 45 degree tube on it, about 6 inches in length. The longer tube has a fitting drilled into it, for what i dont know yet. I called scoggin dickey and asked why no instructions were in the kit, and the guy on the phone had a hardcore texan accent, said "yeeea thats because its a universal kit, are you running headers?" and i said yes...he said "yea youve got to basically drill a header and then run it to your EGR valve." um ok.
no clue how to do this, supposedly the intake base plate seen here:
has no EGR port in it, which is why I need the install kit
can someone give me a better idea of what to do?
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From: Vineland, NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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sorry should have edited.
i need to know how to get the tube into the exhaust. its not the intake that doesnt have the EGR provision...its the heads. vortec heads have no exhaust crossover. one idea was to tap the y-pipe and go from there...i dont know though.
i need to know how to get the tube into the exhaust. its not the intake that doesnt have the EGR provision...its the heads. vortec heads have no exhaust crossover. one idea was to tap the y-pipe and go from there...i dont know though.
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From: Vineland, NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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f that then. my y-pipe's coating is gone...my headers isnt...ill tap the y-pipe and put a low pressure EGR in. then ill be good to go i suppose.
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From: sacramento,ca. usa
Car: 89 iroc,2012 eco 150,roadglide
Engine: zz4
Transmission: t56
Can you post a pic after you get this set of egr tubes on?
I have corvette heads and what looks like that same base...EXCEPT; I only have the egr bolted on the intake and a cover covering the hole near the dist. Does this mean I have no egr hooked up? I pass smog here in Cali. Hmnn. I have the wire and vacum line hooked up to the egr, but no tube going into exhaust?
I have corvette heads and what looks like that same base...EXCEPT; I only have the egr bolted on the intake and a cover covering the hole near the dist. Does this mean I have no egr hooked up? I pass smog here in Cali. Hmnn. I have the wire and vacum line hooked up to the egr, but no tube going into exhaust?
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From: Vineland, NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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no Gm part number
the SDPC part number is 3816
their website is sdpc2000.com
two tubes:
one tube is a bung really, that is supposed to be welded into the primary, the other tube connects to that, and basically connects to the rear of the manifold.
the SDPC part number is 3816
their website is sdpc2000.com
two tubes:
one tube is a bung really, that is supposed to be welded into the primary, the other tube connects to that, and basically connects to the rear of the manifold.
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From: Huntington Beach , CA
Engine: hampster in a wheel
Transmission: 700r
the part that comes from sdpc is actually a gm part .It is the exhst egr tube from the vette .I use that base and when I ordered the kit it was the same piece from the vette with a gm tag on it .I work for gm coulda got it for much cheaper if I had known pipe assm gm pn#10055728
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Car: 1985 Camaro
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Thanks!
Edit: $47.75 at gmpartsdirect.com (plus shipping)
$69.25 from Scoggin Dickey plus $9.75 shipping for internet orders. For telephone and fax orders, actual cost plus $5.00 handling.
Edit: $47.75 at gmpartsdirect.com (plus shipping)
$69.25 from Scoggin Dickey plus $9.75 shipping for internet orders. For telephone and fax orders, actual cost plus $5.00 handling.
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I guess I will just leave mine on for visual..don't feel like welding on the headers. funny though....8years and am just finding out the dam egr was never functional; hmmmnn
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From: Vineland, NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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can someone give me the heads up on how to block off the EGR passages on the baseplate? my tuner says i can just get rid of the EGR...and he can tune me to pass emissions.
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Originally posted by irocdaddy
anyone can you please post a pic of a vette head set-up. Why are there two tubes in the kit?
anyone can you please post a pic of a vette head set-up. Why are there two tubes in the kit?
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Originally posted by IROCZ28dan
can someone give me the heads up on how to block off the EGR passages on the baseplate? my tuner says i can just get rid of the EGR...and he can tune me to pass emissions.
can someone give me the heads up on how to block off the EGR passages on the baseplate? my tuner says i can just get rid of the EGR...and he can tune me to pass emissions.
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I'm using the SDPC kit, and it looks similar to dyno dons. The Corvette pipe has a hole in it that I used for the EGR temp switch. Seems to work, not throwing any codes. My EGR valve doesn't have the port for the temp switch, so that port worked great in my case.
Had to ruin the coating in the headers where I welded it in. I say ruin, but actually it isn't really anything other than discolored. I know welding it voided the header coating warranty, but it still isn't rusty or anything and I didn't paint it afterwards.
I used more of the metal pipe that is welded to the headers than dyno don, to route the flexible pipe BEHIND the valve cover to get the cover off without having to unbolt the EGR stuff. Didn't exactly have enough space to make it work as easily as I had hoped, but I've pulled my valve covers a few times without removing the EGR stuff.
From what I saw, it looks like the pipe (or two) from a 2.8L Camaro could be made to work. Really common in the wrecking yards. I *think* it will seat against the SDPC intake ok, (might need to grind the edges of the pipe seating surface a bit to fit) just have to come up with a way to hook that pipe to your exhaust.
Personally, I know that even if I got the Corvette pipe for free, the time spent getting the right materials, and the effort, time, tools needed to create that metal header piece would exceed the $70 the kit cost. (thats only if you plan on using the entire SDPC kit as it comes) It just wouldn't be worth *my* effort/time to try and replicate the piece someone else has made. (thats not meant to mean I'm better than that, just that I know that my projects invariably take 10 times more money, effort and time than planned) Plus you get some gaskets and bolts you'd have to buy as well. (which admittedly are cheap, but more things you'd have to drive to the store for, hassle with the counterperson, etc. )
Of course, I'll spend days working on building/modifying something I could probably buy for $20, but it comes down to whether or not what's out there suits my needs exactly or not.
Had to ruin the coating in the headers where I welded it in. I say ruin, but actually it isn't really anything other than discolored. I know welding it voided the header coating warranty, but it still isn't rusty or anything and I didn't paint it afterwards.
I used more of the metal pipe that is welded to the headers than dyno don, to route the flexible pipe BEHIND the valve cover to get the cover off without having to unbolt the EGR stuff. Didn't exactly have enough space to make it work as easily as I had hoped, but I've pulled my valve covers a few times without removing the EGR stuff.
From what I saw, it looks like the pipe (or two) from a 2.8L Camaro could be made to work. Really common in the wrecking yards. I *think* it will seat against the SDPC intake ok, (might need to grind the edges of the pipe seating surface a bit to fit) just have to come up with a way to hook that pipe to your exhaust.
Personally, I know that even if I got the Corvette pipe for free, the time spent getting the right materials, and the effort, time, tools needed to create that metal header piece would exceed the $70 the kit cost. (thats only if you plan on using the entire SDPC kit as it comes) It just wouldn't be worth *my* effort/time to try and replicate the piece someone else has made. (thats not meant to mean I'm better than that, just that I know that my projects invariably take 10 times more money, effort and time than planned) Plus you get some gaskets and bolts you'd have to buy as well. (which admittedly are cheap, but more things you'd have to drive to the store for, hassle with the counterperson, etc. )
Of course, I'll spend days working on building/modifying something I could probably buy for $20, but it comes down to whether or not what's out there suits my needs exactly or not.
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Originally posted by dyeager535
I'm using the SDPC kit, and it looks similar to dyno dons. The Corvette pipe has a hole in it that I used for the EGR temp switch.
I'm using the SDPC kit, and it looks similar to dyno dons. The Corvette pipe has a hole in it that I used for the EGR temp switch.
Edit:
Hey Don (or anybody else that wants to answer)!
Would this egr set up work on an HSR?
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Originally posted by Parrydise7
Would this egr set up work on an HSR?
Would this egr set up work on an HSR?
Last edited by VincentZ28; 05-05-2005 at 09:35 PM.
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From: South of Heaven, North of Hell
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I sent an inquiry to Holley to find out why they don't make a smog-legal HSR. I'm still waiting for a reply.
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