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Old 03-31-2005, 02:02 PM
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HSR, AFR 195's, which cam?

I'm just trying to gather ideas and opinions for my next project car...

Speed density 350/355 with a Stealth Ram and AFR 195's... What cam would be best suited for that combination? I see LPE thrown around, as well as some ZZ cams. What about a custom grind?

This will be a 6 speed car. Unsure if I want to run 3.42's or 3.73's. Looking to have a reliable and driveable setup, pump gas, make power to 6 grand, sneak into the high 11's, while trapping at least 115 in the ¼.

From what I gather, the HSR and those 195's would be a good setup - so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Hey man,
What are you after exactly....all out performance with a 6500 with no low end or you want some low end. I know I've seen a dyno with a 383 with AFR heads with a Hot Cam and HSR making around 475 at the fly. Go to www.stealthram.com......they have a lot of great info in there.
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What is your opinion of "no low end"? If it's making 300 at the wheels 1500, then that's enough to get me off the line with the amount of torque the L98 will give me.
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Well, I'm in a truck so my defination of low end is not what a car is b/c of weight. I want about 300 ft lbs at 2000 and a peak tq at 4000 with around 450 ft lbs or more. However, I also have a need that i want as clse to 500 hp around 5500 rpms too. I am going with 180cc heads b/c they retain low end tq a little bit better and still have great ability to make my hp goal. A 350/355 will not make the power that a 383 can like I am doing however, a 350/355 with AFR 195 heads and HSR will definately make the power. I would suggest if you want it to be daily driver either a Hot Cam or LPE 219. I know a lot of people say you should go bigger but I have seen a dyno with ZZ4, 190 AFR heads, Hot Cam, and the HSR pull all the way to 6200 rpms still making power.
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oh, my numbers are at the engine, not tires
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Thanks for your help. Funny, of all the experience on this site, this topic is being covered from a guy in a truck

I guess I should say I'm refering to rear wheel numbers. I'd like to see 400rwhp and at least that in torque - I'd like to see 450rwtq.
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Well, I'm a 2nd Generation gear head. My dad has performed two TPI conversion. One was on a 1986 Monte Carlo SS with a SuperRam and the one on my truck with the HSR. There is a guy with 383, 195 AFR heads, Hot Cam, and HSR running 11.7-11.9's which he said he is making around 400 rwhp NA with 3.73 gears and an A4 with 2600 stall. So, I am giving you advice on the topic is b/c I have done about a years worth of research on plus I am in the process of building. 450 ft lbs is almost out of reach b/c of the tunnel ram design but if you want those numbers, a SuperRam system would do the trick on tq.

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The numbers aren't such a big deal to me as much as the e/t is. Like I said, if I cut a high 11 e/t while have 115+ trap, I'll be happy no matter where my rwhp/tq falls.
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I am gonna give the a custom Comp grind a shot...... 224/230 .574/.576 112lsa
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If your wanting to trap 115mph with a 350 you might have to go with a solid roller. I would think you would need at least a comp xr282hr or somthing similar (230/236).
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Originally posted by gmgod
If your wanting to trap 115mph with a 350 you might have to go with a solid roller. I would think you would need at least a comp xr282hr or somthing similar (230/236).
I'm not afraid to run something big as long as I can wind it out a bit. Hell, I'll go to 6500 - 7000 as long as it's still making power. Basically, I'd like to have similar manners as my LS1 - if that's possible.
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Why not just go with an LS1 then. I have seen motor and tranny combos for around $3-4K and you will have that much into a block, machining, heads and all of the other stuff you need. I am kind of kicking myself for not going this route.
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Originally posted by Drkhrse89
Why not just go with an LS1 then. I have seen motor and tranny combos for around $3-4K and you will have that much into a block, machining, heads and all of the other stuff you need. I am kind of kicking myself for not going this route.
I've thought about it......
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