ok heres the thing this is a daily driver car all stock want more power no naawws maybe later but i want real power first drove everyday and maybe go to a strip once a month i have a 5.7 350 tpi 125,000 miles so this is what i figure when i compare the two setups i might be wrong about the numbers but i think im pretty close
(383 setup)-1000 for stroker kit,1250 for apr heads,1250 for super ram,500 in machine work total-4000

super charger-3500 pro charger,500-ported heads and tpi,500 in rebuil total-4500

now i know this doesnt include other charges like cam but i just left it out since i probaly got to get a new one for either setup now remember this is a daily driver and i know a 383 will guzzle more gas but im not really goin make that as big of a decideing factor as long as im getting 15,16,17 mpg
only dilema is i caculated the 383 stoker will give 450 hp and alot more torque 383-360hp heads-60,70hp superram-20,30hp
and supercharger will give me around 420 hp thats with 7 or 8 pounds of boost since daily driver ported heads and tpi-20hp super charger 75% of 240 is around 420 hp but 30 hp isnt really horribly big difference its the torque i ll get alot more torque with 383 and with supercharger the same torque as the stoch 350 block which is aight so what do u guys think i should do

 

383, superram, LPE 219 cam, good heads(trickflow, e-tec).

The blower will require more set-up/maintenance and will be somewhat less reliable if it is your only car.

Might want to buy a cheap beater to get you to work.

 

Ahhh to be young and full of hope and dreams again!
You may want to take another look at just how much it will cost to swap engines. For instance if your only budgeting 500.00 for machine work your not going to get the best work. The motor that is currently in my car now is a daily driver, 383cid 10.5:1cr with AFR heads, TPIS cam, Super Ram, etc etc. If I could have gotten away with only spending 4000.00 I would have a smile that would go all the way around my face right now. I know your current engine has over 100,000 miles on it but changing motors...especially building a new on e is a major undertaking. Speaking from experience (I have built many camaros, with all different setups) with good mechanic skills and the proper tools you could have a blower installed over the weekend. To build an entirely new engine...well...be prepared for the motor swap rule of thumb, it usually takes twice as long and costs twice as much as you initially thought. I love my car and have spent literally tens of thousands of dolars on it over the years but in your case you may want to look at something that may not net you the highest HP numbers but doesn't usually include all the tangles of a full on "project." I have another car to drive around so for me it's not a big deal, but if this is your only means of transportation I would look at a blower. Keep the boost at reasonable levels (if your running stock drivetrain you'll want to do that anyway) and just enjoy your car. The worst thing about a project is going into the garage and thinking how cool it would be to take your car out for a cruise only to see it in a million pieces.
-Mike

 

thanks for the info i posted this same theard in the power adder section and one guy said i should just put a turbocharger on it becuase i can control the boost with just allitle **** in my car so i can turn it up on the track and turn it down when im riding around on the street so i get better gas mileage is this true and if it is what turbo setups do you think are good i saw this one by bbs designs i get a whole twin turbo kit for 3000 sounds like a great deal to me does anyone have any comments on there work and even with the turbo kit should i get new heads, differnt tpi setup and rebuild the engine and if anyone has this kit can you tell me how you like it and what kind of gain did you get thanks

 

power adder on a motor wiht that many miles seems kinda risky to me. talk to the guys on the power adder board, and see how many of them have hurt their engines and end up rebuilding it anyway. itis a big job, and maybe more expensive, but if the car is a daily driver, i think there is no replacement for displacement. ifyou build a strong motor, the power is there all the time, no pissin around with boost, nitrous, or other gimics, just raw power all the time. a naturally aspirated motor is also less complex, and would probably be more reliable than a high mileage motor with a power adder. as for the turbo thing, if you are just gonna run low boost on the street and crank it up at the the track only, save yourself lots of money and just put nitrous on it. using the squeeze at the track would be just like cranking up the boost at the track.

just some thoughts and opinions to chew on.

 

Dude, I won't even tell you what my 385 has cost me!!! I will say for parts, machine work, and balancing, it was more than you are alotting for you entire engine and that is the short block that I assemble!!! Don't try to go cheap. I know it sucks trying to save up, but it is worth it in the end when you baby is driving, not sitting because of poor work or parts.

And since we are at it. Why not artifically aspirate the 383???!!!??? Yeah, dat's da ticket...

 

I believe one of the main questions that should be brought upis if you live in an emissions area. If you do then a super/turbocharger is the way to go. But do not put words in my mouth. 383s can pass smog and members have done it, itjust takes more tuning and toning down to get it to pass. If you are conscerned about gas mileage, and manners maybe a charger is the way to go. If you want an engine that is rude and shakes your car at idle and exhaust that resonates your chest, 383.

Another question is: Will I use that much power regulary without losing my liscense?

Those were two of my questions when I was deciding on what buildup to do. Good luck.

 

By the way, my 355 that I thought would only cost $2-3,000 and I could finish in a month has cost me $5,000 so far and has taken me all summer.

 

ok sorrey i dont need a rebuilt i had one dont about 60000 miles ago on the trans and the engine so it curently has about 50000miles on it i do live in emmisions area IL. and no nitrious cuase i might be going to the track once every 2 months and will be used for some simple street racing ok i know i will need suspension so thats 1000 exshast thats 1000 for headers to and thats about 2500 just for the stroker you really think it would be more then that 1250 for stroker kit and 750 for extras enlightin me

 

I have a 383 that gets 18 miles to the gallon if I stay out of it.. Sometimes more if I drive sain wich is hard to do when other drivers challenge you daily as they do with me.
You dont have to buy the most expensive parts on the market just upgrade to above stock like a scat crank and a cheap set of eagle rods and some reasonable priced forged pistons.
I built my 383 with every thing listed below with the future intentions of installing a 12 psi procharger on it eventually.
So like most people yes it is an ongoing saga of never ending money.
But dollars to cents I purchased my GTA notchback 7 years ago for 8k and put a 5 k motor in it and I have beaten a bunch of LS1's in the 1/4 that costed them over 30 k if they bought it new.
One things for sure it costs to get a 3600 lb car moving fast

 

Sounds great and all but all I have to say it add an easy extra $1000 to each of ur budget plans b/c its gona easly go over that. Wait till u start tearing stuff down and see all the little things u need extra. You mine as well do it all right the first time while it's out, then to work off a tight budget and cut corners.