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Old 04-06-2004, 10:52 PM
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car going to fastchip, any advice?

Hey guys, just made an appointment to dyno tune my car at Fastchip on May 26-that was the quickest they could get me in! Anyhoo, I want to have my ducks in a row before I get there. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Here is my combo:
92 B4c camaro
383 all forged and balanced rotating assembly
hot cam
AFR 190 heads
11.1 compression
ls1 28lb. injectors
miniram
58mm TB
Long Tubes to Corsa 3"
Pro-built 700r-4w/3500 stall
Moser 12 bolt w/3:73's
I just purchased this car, so I don't know whats up with the tune, all I know is it doesn't run the way it should! Help guys! What kind of numbers(rwhp) should I be satisfied with? Thanks!
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Just a guess - 380RWHP

On a soothing note, don't sweat it. Fastchip will be able to tell you if something is up when/if they can't get the tune right. They should know what to expect from your setup and will likely detect any anomalies during the tune sessions.
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how about a much bigger cam? other than that it sounds like a real nice setup.
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Please let me know how you make out with the dyno tune. I REALLY need to get this done as well on my setup. Only problem with me is that I live in Mass and driving to Ok is a bit of a travel for me. Just keep in touch please. Oh ya did they give you any $$$$$ estimites on how much it will cost to run the car al day
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I think a dyno tune chip is $350. They are supposed to tune until it's right I understand. A buddy of mine took a LS1 to him like 4 times and was only charged once. This will be my dyno cherry, it's my first time! I'm pretty lucky I guess, I only have to drive eighty miles. I'll post results when I return! Thanks!
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Good luck, he should be able to squeeze alot more out of your setup - you had better post up the info
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$350 for a dyno tune for a chip? Cant be, They charge that just to order a custom chip over the phone.
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Smells like a big rip off to me.

The popular local dyno here in Phoenix charges 100$/hour, DynoJet with WB O2.

The price includes him tuning and burning for you.

He doesnt do 3rd gens though, however he does tune 94 up f-bodys with LT1 and LS1 edit, and is also real popular with the Ford crowd and their Mustangs.
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I dont see it as a rip off. Ed Wright knows his $hit when it comes to tuing our cars. I am sure he will find more HP in a car AFTER it has been to another dyno for a tune. I think there was a member here who dropped his car off and they found almost 100 more HP just from fine tuning the ECM.
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Just a quick update, called fastchip and the dyno tune is $550
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$550
What a joke, thats gotta be some of the fattest pork belley pricing I have ever heard of!!!!!!!!!!

I would hope you get it in writing that he will tune your part throttle and cruise spark and fuel and not only WOT for that amount of cash.
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good luck. If i don't have anything to do that day maybe i can drop by and watch =) I live in Broken Arrow, OK
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he squeezed 30 hp and 20 tq out of mine. Went from 252 to 283 and from 376 to 396 for tq. The A/F ratio is about 12.8-13.1 across the whole rpm range. He will work with you until its right.
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I paid 100$ for 1 hour of dyno time to max out my combo.

Made 10 pulls, you are looking here at 1, 5, 10. The first the middle and the last, final AFR was 12.6-12.8 across the range. I maxed my combo out in less than 1 hour and had time left at the end to setup my highway fuel mode for testing and data logging with the WB O2.

Anyone with any knowledge of how a motor works and what it means for an engine to have a timing advance requirement and a fuel curve that is within the safe range of 12.5-13.0 can push a car for max power and look like they know what they are doing and become a hero real fast.

It took me weeks however and countless burns to get my idle, part throttle, AE, TCC lockup, tight BLM range, etc...

95% plus people who run these Custom Tuner chips are very upset with drivability, fuel mileage, idle, etc...

I dont mean to sound so negative its just that so amny people will just jump right in not exactly prepared for a very possible poor outcome from their experience with a Custom Tuner.

Took her to the track to back up my day at the dyno and ran pretty damn strong.

At the track...........
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bo ty guy, ever go and get it done? Also, OMINOUS_87, very nice gains from baseline to final result, and for $100!!! WTF? I need to find a place like that. Places around here run anywhere from $100-$150 for the hour, just to dyno, not tuned. Thats a great deal IMHO. Yes I know this is old. bump
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Originally posted by 86IROCNJ
bo ty guy, ever go and get it done? Also, OMINOUS_87, very nice gains from baseline to final result, and for $100!!! WTF? I need to find a place like that. Places around here run anywhere from $100-$150 for the hour, just to dyno, not tuned. Thats a great deal IMHO. Yes I know this is old. bump
They didnt tune it.

I tuned the car myslef, and was still able to make 10 runs in an hour.

The shop I went to only tuned 4th gens and fords.
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So you got to tune your car yourself while there at the dyno? Thats pretty cool. Nice gains.
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Originally posted by OMINOUS_87
What a joke, thats gotta be some of the fattest pork belley pricing I have ever heard of!!!!!!!!!!

I would hope you get it in writing that he will tune your part throttle and cruise spark and fuel and not only WOT for that amount of cash.
Sorry to bring this back to the top, but I have to vouch for Ed. I have not had my car to him yet for tuning, but have several friends...Shaun90Iroc being one of them...that have taken there car to Ed Wright for tuning and have yet to hear anyone complain about his services. I have personally seen Ed run his car at the track and if you dont believe that for the $550 Ed does everything, look at his personal car and then tell me that. Everything he does while tuning his own car, he does for his customers. He went from running 13's last year (2003) to running 10.30's this year. Yes he did make some changes to his motor, but the point is that he does every tune the same way he does his own.

For those of you that are wondering, Ed will work with you until everything is right. I have a buddy that took his car...a 96 Z28...to Ed for tuning and about halfway thru the 2nd pull his optispark went out on him and he had to have the car towed back home. Ed told him that whenever he got the car fixed and was ready to try again, to let him know and he would get him back in and completely tune the car at NO COST to my buddy.
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FastChips has had problems with alot of customers, so beware!

If they have your car for an extensive time, or if you take it back multiple times, then maybe things will work out for you.

But, the critical thing that must be done, is that they have to have your car. I have lost count of how many very disatisfied customers of Ed who attempted to have their car tuned thru the mail.

For me and accepting that I dont have FastChips experience, I burned about 30 Eproms for my 395 cu.in. stroker. So, you can not tune a unique setup with one chip attempt.
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FastChips has had problems with alot of customers, so beware!

But, the critical thing that must be done, is that they have to have your car. I have lost count of how many very disatisfied customers of Ed who attempted to have their car tuned thru the mail.

For me and accepting that I dont have FastChips experience, I burned about 30 Eproms for my 395 cu.in. stroker. So, you can not tune a unique setup with one chip attempt.
He is good at getting it done right the first time if he has the car there. IMHO...if you order a chip from him thru the mail or over the phone, you are really screwing yourself because there is no way to know exactly how your car is going to react by a mail order chip. If I am not mistaking, the chips that he does thru the mail are using tunes that he has already done on cars with SIMILAR setups, but as we all know...every car with respond differently even if you put 2 cars together with identical mods. I personally have not heard anyone complain about what Ed has done for them, everyone I know or talk to is a satisfied customer.
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Hey guys, just a quick update. My tranny went to crap on me, so I decided it was time to throw in my TKO 5 speed. You know how it is though, While you have it torn down, you think now is the time to do this and that. Just got it back together, and it runs pretty decent. Ran my buddies 03 Cobra last week. His car put 422rwhp down. He kicked my azz out of the hole every race. Jumped a length on me at the start, and it stayed that way every race. Hopefully, after the holidays, I'll have the spare cash to get it to Ed, at fastchip. I'll let you guys know how it turns out!
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