TheMysticWizard

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I was just wondering what is necessary to pass the California Visual Emissions test. I know you need a EGR valve, but is all the Air Injection necessary? How about the Air Pump? It just really clutters up the engine, I would love to junk it, but would it still pass emissions that way?

The main reason I'm asking is, I would like to stick a set of Headers on my car, but I see that the ones with the AIR tubes are a bit more expensive, so I'd like to do away with them, if I will still pass smog that way.

IROCZ88x

u wont pass if it doesnt have a CARB cert...if they open up the hood and see no emissions stuff, not only will u fail the test anyways, they will fail u for putting illegal stuff on ur car...not that im from cali or anything, thats just the way of it, unless u have the hookups...

Guest

Yes you have to have the AIR. You have to have everything, and if the guy is ****... it all has to work, too.

IROCZZ3

And if the guy is really ****, you'd have to prove your "smog legal" headers are smog legal too. Ask me how I know...

formul8!!

Who pays for the emissions testing in CA? The vehicle owner or the state?

The state provides the testing at no cost in IL.

IROCZ88x

really?! wow...29 bucks in MA

89ReDIrOcZ

every shop in my area in cali is about 50 bucks to test. free re-inspection if u fail hehe i know i failded mine.

TheMysticWizard

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They just go too far with this smog crap.

So what choices do we have? Find a crooked guy at a smog station that will pass us for a few extra bux, or stick to the rules?

I guess I could pull all the smog stuff off, and then before the test just stick it all back on, but what a pain in the a$$ that would be!

That crooked guy at the smog station sounds like the way to go, wish I knew someone!

Guest

The state?

The vehicle owner does.

Choices? Hmmm... well of course the easiest way is put everything back. And, lets not forget a few things:

Removal of anything is a violation of federal law (watch out, FBI may be after you!)
The CHP has trained officers to check for tampering. They will write you a ticket, or worse yet... tow your polluting car away for you.The good ol 'Test Only' law. Warning to those with CCC and some of the older cars, they are targeting specific makes and models. The LG4 is prone to becoming 'Test Only' for the rest of its life here. Cant buy those jokers off.

formul8!!

I take it California is very serious about smog stuff! It is not too big of a deal in IL. Either it passes the roller test or it doesn't. My daily driver '99 Audi was exempt from the roller test because it is AWD.

My Formula has SLP headers w/AIR, smog pump, brand new 3" converter instead of the dual cat setup, and all other emissions stuff still intact. I do not see that huge of a gain taking the emissions stuff off over polluting the air and the hassle it creates.

How much does the smog test cost in CA? In IL, I get the letter in the mail, take it to one of the States emissions places and all set for two more years. No cost unless it fails.

Maybe because of the pic taken below? This is on top of Griffith Hill overlooking Los Angeles basin on 11/5/03.

Guest

Hell thats nothin. You should find a picture taken from that same location on ANY day from the late 70's. You wouldnt have been able to see past the first ridge.

Test cost varies. I think most places are charging right around $50 for the actual test, and its something like $10 or whatever for the certificate (Why? I dunno... its electronically transmitted to a computer in Sacramento that doesnt need help).

I've found the AIR system to be mostly useless in testing various cars. The cat and EGR have the largest and most useful effect IMO.