LT1 vs. ZZ4 cams(in a TPI 305)
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LT1 vs. ZZ4 cams(in a TPI 305)
Im contemplating swapping cams over this winter and adding roller tip rockers as well. Im reading up old posts on the LT1 and ZZ4 cams for a swap on a budget and nothing too radical, and peoples opinions seem different. The car is a 305 TPI motor(MAF, not SD) using a 87' TPI setup from a Trans Am. Car is an automatic, stock chip currently and motor except Hooker headers/catback exhaust.
Are both direct swaps, or do either involve PROM tuning/burning, or any thing else like different springs, etc? Id like one that requires as little work as possible besides the cam swap itself but the obvious.
Thanks!
Are both direct swaps, or do either involve PROM tuning/burning, or any thing else like different springs, etc? Id like one that requires as little work as possible besides the cam swap itself but the obvious.
Thanks!
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You will want new springs for sure. What size rockers are you using? If its 1.6's you might have problems with the retainers hitting the valve seals. The LT1 cam with 1.6 rockers makes it .500" lift. The ZZ4 cam will have over .500", and I know that wont work with stock heads.
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The LT1 cam isn't much bigger than the L98 cam. So if you're going to do a cam swap go for the ZZ4 with bigger springs.
The LT1 cam isn't much bigger than the L98 cam. So if you're going to do a cam swap go for the ZZ4 with bigger springs.
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Car: 1986 pontiac TA
Engine: 360 HSR
Transmission: 700r4 3300 yank converter
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt
i swapped from the LT1 to the ZZ4. picked up .2 in the quarter mile. either one will require the larger springs. and you'll have to cut the spring pockets out to fit either springs. been there done that. click the blue banner. the screw in studs and guideplate are because i wanted to do it. not because i put the cams in. had them both in w/o the studs and guideplates.
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What head castings do you have that you had to cut the pockets? I'm using the K Motion K-700 springs and didn't need to cut. ( I did port though)
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Car: 1986 pontiac TA
Engine: 360 HSR
Transmission: 700r4 3300 yank converter
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt
well mine is a 350 and its the 083 heads. the 305 heads will have the same small pockets. they will have the 1.250" diameter pocketes. you'll need at least 1.320" mine were cut to 1.470"
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Ok, so either cam requires headwork and some sort of PROM tuning.
New question...what if any aftermarket cams out there are a nice improvement on the L98/5 speed LB9 cam? And do they not require PROM tuning/head work?
Lastly, do you think the PROM I have now, which is for a 87' LB9 Auto, needs PROM tuning since it has a 5 speed LB9 cam in it?
New question...what if any aftermarket cams out there are a nice improvement on the L98/5 speed LB9 cam? And do they not require PROM tuning/head work?
Lastly, do you think the PROM I have now, which is for a 87' LB9 Auto, needs PROM tuning since it has a 5 speed LB9 cam in it?
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A cam like the LT1 cam is so mild you do not need a new custom PROM to go with it. I used my stock PROM with a ZZ4 cam and headers and ported Corvette heads. It wasnt until I went to the LT4 HOT cam that I needed a custom chip. Any combination will benefit from a custom chip but the LT1 and ZZ4 cam are mild enough to not need one.
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