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Ram Air ducting for TPI on Ebay..

For those interested....I think they would be a good add-on for that ram air effect. Same as what I think hawks sells....

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That is a pretty good price and is a hell of a lot better looking than a 4" dryer hose showing from the front.
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looks good..
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there's also a tech article to build your own..

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hey DannyT you have a pic of what yours look like? cant be that bad
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if you're going the flexible duct route, it'd be worth the effort to get some flexible sheet metal and line the duct smoothly. ideally, this would include all 4 sides, and prob some thin bead of caulk/glue/sealant/epoxy/etc holding the sides to each other, but to take the easy route, just the top and bottom would probably help, and are a lot less work than the sides (where you have to cut an arc pattern in the sheetmetal)
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Looks good enough, but it's so easy to make your own...
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I e-mailed the guy and he told me "The boxes are made out of galvinized alluminum so they wont rust and are sprayed black they redirect air up into you intake system it is not sealed at the top of the intake i provide a mesh grill so you can make a modification to your system to allow more air to flow to the filters"

Comes with directions and all....I think I may bid on these. I had the dryer ducting on my car before and like DannyT above says, it sure beats the ducting showing....

Yeah they can be made but even the post above says to use 8" ducting and these are sheet metal...hell I dont know...Id rather buy something thats all ready made to fit....

oh yeah, I e-mailed him back to send me a picture of the actual boxes installed and when I get them I will post...
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hey DannyT you have a pic of what yours look like? cant be that bad
Actually I have a ram air piece that is no longer made. It is a one piece unit that has the openings for the air filters AND the intake scoops combined which means it's sealed at the top.

Unfortunately the comany no longer makes them and I believe they are out of business. I looked in to reproducing this piece (part cost me $129) but I was looking at forking out close to $10,000 to make the initial vacuum mold and would have to sell over 100 of them just to break even.
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Am I the only one who thinks that using the flexible AC ducting is not only cheap looking but almost works against the function? I mean the design of the ducting is not really designed for high-speed, free-flowing air! Just kinda looks seems like all the ridges would be more of a problem than a solution or advantage. Anybody?
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putting it that way, that makes alot of sense.
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Originally posted by jamesbob02
Am I the only one who thinks that using the flexible AC ducting is not only cheap looking but almost works against the function? I mean the design of the ducting is not really designed for high-speed, free-flowing air! Just kinda looks seems like all the ridges would be more of a problem than a solution or advantage. Anybody?
like i posted above, if you do that, you have to line it with something like thin sheetmetal that will stay smooth and flat to reduce turbulence. this is why PVC pipe and smooth <60° bend fittings are better if you can get the area you need (remember, the TB limits airflow as well, so if you do a 'ram air' it will have to increase pressure)
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heres a picture he sent me of one of the unfinished boxes....
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Looks like a pretty good idea....how much you think something like that is worth? Doesn't look like there is awhole lot of work into making them...
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well....I just won them on ebay....! got them for $41.00...not to shabby.....and..he is going to be putting another set up on ebay.....so...he's a second chance if anyone was interested....
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I have these boxes and they are great. The only problem is that they are about 3 inches too short from the filter housings. Good ole duct tape works great!! I would recommend them.
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I have these boxes and they are great. The only problem is that they are about 3 inches too short from the filter housings. Good ole duct tape works great!! I would recommend them.
That's great to hear that they are worth the money.....so....did you notice much? That sux that they are about 3 inches to short though...guess I'll have to use some duct tape too...lol
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Yes a very decent difference. There was a thread on my boxes about a month ago. I will look for it and post it.
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Wow, they look like a nice clean fit....were they very bad to install? I just bought a BBK/Edelbrock 52MM Throttle Body for my car too......so...with the ram air boxes and the TB.....that should do some good.
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I'm going to make something similar, but I'm going to use cardboard and duct tape. I would be out there doing it right now, but I need to gain access to my tranny cooler in the near future and I don't want to crawl on my back to get there. Anyways, what I'm going to do is take a piece of long cardboard, shape it to size, then line it with duct tape, then make the sides, and attach them to the big piece(bottom) It's also going to be attached to the airbox and the car by duct tape. Hey, it may be cheap, but it's a whole lot better than spending $100, or even $40.

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Id find a better material than cardboard as its not going to hold up to any kind of moisture for any length of time. For the price those ram air boxes look like it may be worth the price I cant see spending big money for the ones on Hawks website even if they were a perfect fit...
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I'm planning on lining the cardboard with duct tape so it'll last longer, both sides.
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Hey guys....like I said before..I bought those Ram Air Boxes off of ebay.....and I'm wondering.....will a stock set of Air Filters be ok..or should I get like a set of K&N Air Filters??? Would there be much of a difference?
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Two reasons to get K&Ns

1. Yes. They do flow better than paper.
2. Cleanable and reuseable. Wind up being cheaper that OEM in the long run.

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If you look, there are a pair of K&N filter in the TGO classified section for $20.

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If you look, there are a pair of K&N filter in the TGO classified section for $20.

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Yeah, I saw that.....that's why I was wondering if I should go ahead and buy them.......
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with as nice a car as you have 84customZ28, Im surprised you have done that along time ago...
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with as nice a car as you have 84customZ28, Im surprised you have done that along time ago...
hehe..thanks man. Well...I'm just now getting back on my feet since the accident with my 84 Z28 (92 Z28 clone). And hopefully....I'll be getting a bunch of cash out of that . So....I'm just now buying a bunch of modification parts....but can't install any of'em becuase it's sooo cold outside. I have a nice pile starting to get bigger and bigger everyday....lol
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you mean to tell me that car with the primed hood in your sig is an 84 with 92 gfx?
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you mean to tell me that car with the primed hood in your sig is an 84 with 92 gfx?
Nope...that's a TRUE 1991 Z28......here is a picture of my old 84 Z28 (1992 Z28 Clone) it was soooo bad ***....had it done for one day...and an old lady rearened me and totaled it. MY mom let me borrow $7000.00 for my new 91. I had over $7000.00 in the 84..
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Nope...that's a TRUE 1991 Z28......here is a picture of my old 84 Z28 (1992 Z28 Clone) it was soooo bad ***....had it done for one day...and an old lady rearened me and totaled it. MY mom let me borrow $7000.00 for my new 91. I had over $7000.00 in the 84..
And here is my 91....I'll be getting it done this summer. The reason I should be getting a ton of money is because of the accident I was in. An 83 year old lady hit me in the rear (84 is now totaled but still have it) and I'm left with a $4000.00 medical bill and 2 bulging disks in my back which is a permanent injury....so..that's where the major bucks will come in...
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this is how the 84 is lookin now.....pretty sad..there are still a bunch of good parts..
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hey have you gotten your ducts yet?
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Nope, not yet, I have to get a money order tomorrow.....once he gets the payment....I'll get the ram air boxes in 2 days.
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HEY CHECK THIS OUT.......

I just got thru talking with the guy who makes and sells these ram air boxes on Ebay.

He says he just started making a "newer" version that actually hooks directly up to the lower air intake which holds the air filters.

I've posted a pic.

He said if I can get 5 or more buyers, he'll sell the new style for $40 a pair.

That's worth it to me for the time I'll save not having to meaure / cut and fit.

I definitely want a set.

If anybody else does let me know. This will happen ASAP if we can get the buyers.

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well that doesnt seem to be fair to the other peeps that just purchased the boxes. Like 84customZ28 and myself.....Im going to e-mail him and see whats up with that and how come I wasnt offered those instead of the others...thanks for posting...
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well that doesnt seem to be fair to the other peeps that just purchased the boxes. Like 84customZ28 and myself.....Im going to e-mail him and see whats up with that and how come I wasnt offered those instead of the others...thanks for posting...

Yeah, that dosent seem fair......aren't those the ones he's selling to us though wishmaster? On ebay....he said they will fit right in....or are they different?? Let us all know what's up if you get ahold of Gilbert....cause...I haven't sent the money order out yet for the Ram Air Boxes.....
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NO NO.......

The boxes themselves aren't different. He just installs the mesh and makes them so they hook right onto the lower air filter box.

I'm SURE If you emailed him and tell him you'd like the newer ones, he'd do it.

He wanted $55 a pair for the newer ones before I talked him into a group purchase.

That would be 3 of us total , that want them for sure already



Just trying to help save us all some time and $$$$

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yeah but see I already paid for mine and received them yesterday, I had e-mailed him before I paid for them and asked if they were sealed all the way up and his response was no.

"The boxes are made out of galvinized alluminum so they wont rust and are sprayed black they redirect air up into you intake system it is not sealed at the top of the intake i provide a mesh grill so you can make a modification to your system to allow more air to flow to the filters"

He should have atleast told me about the boxes that Im sure he already had made. I have already e-mailed Gil and asked what the problem was and why I wasnt told about these.

I had also e-mailed him long before now and told him that I had a link on the board that I go to, to try and help him out to sell what he was offering which is what this thread is about...
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If anyone came come up with some installed pics so I could see just how well the boxes fit, I'd be interested in a set. Granted $40 isn't much, but I'm not going to spend my money on these until someone posts about their install and how they worked for them.
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Well...I just emailed Gilbert back and we talked on Instan Message. He's a really cool guy to deal with and he's going to go ahead and make me the newer ones...with no extra charge..!
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has anyone gotten a set of the new boxes?

how do they fit?
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these are cool, i am in the process of building them out of stainless, be tig welded, polished, still looking for another factory bottom filter housing so as to not mess mine up, and can return to stock easily. will post pics when i am done.
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im' interested in this group purchase thing, but is it possible to retain the fog lights with these ram air boxes. i currently have the AC ducting but obviously it isn't doing all to much and i'd like to retain the fog lights if possible. if anybody thinks it can be done with fog lights let me know and i'll pick up a set
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Here are the Ram Air boxes Gilbert made for me.....the updated version....he didn't have time to apply a coat of paint to them....so I primered them and painted them satin black.....I just have to wait to install'em now....
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They look pretty good painted black!! I'd be in on the group purchase after I see some pics of it installed, because I dont want to have to remove my fog lights to make it fit in there....
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Originally posted by iroc4ever
They look pretty good painted black!! I'd be in on the group purchase after I see some pics of it installed, because I dont want to have to remove my fog lights to make it fit in there....
Gilbert Told me that the factory foglights won't need to be removed.....they fit right in front of the ram air boxes


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