hey guys will that rubber elbow that comes off the end of the throttle body on an LT1 fit our mass air flow sensors? i was thinking of gettin one of these and makin my own cold air kit, i am fairly sure that an LT1 intake bellows as they are called, will mate to my TPI throttle body, but i am not sure if it will mate to my stock TPI mass airflow sensor. if it does work i will prolly order an intake bellows for a 1LE application since it is rumored that they flow more. anyone got any ideas on this?

 

yes im pretty sure they do. but if u look in the jegs catalog. they have an aluminum intake bellow for an LT1. looks nice..

 

yah i looked at those but they are a little pricey, but they would work well for the fogger nozzle i plan on installin in it my dad works at a dealership so i might be able to get a stock rubber one fairly cheap. the rubber ones are like 100 bucks in teh next generation catalog. also, does anyone know what the hole in the bottom is for? there is some plastic tube that runs out of it towards the optispark, what the heck is that thing?

 

The LT1 elbows turn to the right. Can you just flip it over to the left so it'll point towards the filter?

Oh that hose you're talking about might be the air silencer, but I'm really not sure. The silencers weren't present on the 1LE cars though.

 

From, the original poster's sig i gather he has an IROC. If so, why are you worried about making some kind of a cold air kit. Your stock set-up flows more than enough for what you need, and looks good on the car as it is. And it's already 'cold air' too

I'm really starting to get confused by all the camaro guy's posting lately about wanting to make 'cold air kits' for their cars. Doesn't anybody have an interest in actually making their car faster anymore?

 

It seems to be an import thing. Every Honda, Mitsubishi, etc. you see has to have stickers, subs & a CAI or it ain't $hit.

 

I guess, but isn't it a sad day when cars with real potential to go fast are taking their cues on modifications from 17 second economy cars.

Whats next. Well, this big V8 is real heavy, so i decided to yank it and throw in this hopped up 2.2 I4 i pulled from a 2001 olds alero. Yeah it's only rated at like 150hp, but i figure the 300lbs i shaved off the front has to make up for that. I mean, cmon, this ain't your father oldsmobile. roflmao

 

woah woah woah guys. you are missin my idea here. for your info i already have k&n filters in the stock arboxes and they are cut to allow more cool air from the front of the car, and yes it works well, on a cool night i can definetly tell a difference. the only reason i was gonna change it was because i am lookin at installing nitrous. i want to hide it so i really dont want to run a plate, and i really didnt want to mount the fogger nozzle in the soft rubber boot that is after the MAF. i think the stock rubber boot is too soft and has too many ribs to mount it securely. so i was gonna put the nozzle on the underside of an LT1 intake bellows, then mount the solenoids under a hush panel that i got off a carburated car that mounts where the stock airboxes are. that was my plan, i am not trying to make some silly rice cold air intake. i want to run squeeze but dont want to broadcast it to everyone. and i perfer the stock look, so i was gonna try to use factory parts to make it look like the factory would have done it. so please dont misunderstand me, i perfer clean installations that look like they belong, i hate ricers and i also hate all the morons that rig crap on their cars with duct tape and plumbing parts. i hope i made my ideas clear. the purpose is to accomodate a clean functional nitrous system, not a stupid hilljack mod that will make my car slower.

 

The problem with the LT1 elbow is it turns too soon. It will interfear with your accessories. The LT1 TB sits further forward on them. Try getting a 3-gen 'bird intake elbow.

 

EDIT: oops. i kinda missread this post...

 

well looked at a buddys lt1 today and i like the elbow, but i think it does turn too soon and would run into my AC compressor. do you guys think it is safe to put a nozzle in my stock rubber boot or should i just bite the bullet and run a plate and not hide it?

 

Actually, how trick are you trying to get here?

I've heard of running a fogger drilled into the plenum just after the TB. Very hidden. There are ways to hide the lines too if you get creative...

Or you could try a firebird elbow as suggested? Maybe someone could post a pic or do a search.

btw, sorry if i seemed rough, but i hope you can understand my frustration, lol

 

not a problem, i didnt say i was trying to accomodate a nitrous system when i originally asked the question. anyhow, does anyone think there is a problem with just puttin the nozzle my stock rubber boot? i thought it may be too flimsy but maybe i am wrong. drilling into the plenum right behind the throttle body woudl be a good idea but will it spread evenly to all cylinders or will the front 2 get shorted? i plan on runnin the NX stage 1 kit, if there are any of you out there runnin this kit let me know how you set yours up.

 

I have no direct experience, but I've seen lots of pics w/ nitrous lines running into the rubber ducting. There was quite a bit of discussion a while ago about running the lines in front of the throttle body being better than using a plate. The plenum mount could still be good, you'd probably want it as close to the throttle body as possible though. If you use the rubber duct, you could run lines up through the bottom, and cover them with black plastic tubing. It wouldn't really stand out that way anyways and it would be an easy intall.

 

well i ran my line under the plenum and under the intake tube (bellow) to just before the after the mass air flow sensor and drilled a hole into the back side of the sensor... and wraped my lines in black electrical ducting..... people never knew i had it.... told them it was the wiring harness for the MAF..... but i also had a dry shot so

 

I bought an lt1 intake bellow from slp to use on my tpi conversion. It makes a 90 degree bend towards the passenger side. Because the coolant inlet is there, I flipped it upside down. The problem that remains is that in order to clear the tensioner, the intake duct must be 4 - 1/2" longer before the 90 degree bend. If you want pictures, let me know and I can show you ...