e-man

I read in a post on here that the intake wasnt machined at the right angles (intake to head).And sure enough took a angle guage and set to the stock TPI angle and put it on the stealth ram intake and there is about a 1/8 INCH GAP at the bottom! I was wondering why there was so much oil in the intake ports of the heads. I guess holley doesnt check these things before there shipped

kevinc

*revised post...I called Holley again, this time the tech spt guys had a bulletin on the problem and handled it. New intake base is on the way.

e-man

I had the same thing with the fuel rails where they drilled the holes for the injectors.Metal shavings protruding into the rail.

5SIZ

WOW

If the stealth ram is that imperfected then I don't know what to say except, damn

Acceld Z

Holley's not the only one..........my Superram is a POS as well. At least the Stealth is less expensive.

grumpyvette

while it may be true that a few intakes were not machined correctly Im sure holley will correct the mistake and replace any defectively machined intakes, they are surely not all that way, mine was not! contact holley and POLITELY REQUEST a new intake AFTER makeing VERY SURE yours IS machined incorrectly, perhaps a contactor screwed a few up and you were the unlucky result, holleys a large well known company and stands behind their products, demand for the steathram is so high Im reasonably sure some outside contractor is involved or the intakes that are machined wrong are very few in number.

kevinc

As I said above, I have already called Holley, they said to send it back to the retailer for a replacement. Shipping is in the $10-15 range if I do it, plus shipping for the replacement. $20-30, and likely I'll get another irregular one.

I laid a steel straightedge across the intake with a flourescent lamp behind it, quite a bit of light showing between the straightedge and the intake on the drivers side surface. The center of the surface (where the EGR passage would be) is higher than cyls 1,3 or 5,7...given the torque sequence has you tightening the center, then front, then rear, it makes sense #7 would be the affected cyl.

Sounds like maybe I should try Holley's tech support again and be more assertive.

5SIZ

grumpy is right guys, at first I couldn't believe Holley would pull some crap like that, I'm sure they'll take care of the problem.

kevinc

Either way I'll get it fixed...I miss it! Going back to the TPI, even with the Super Ram manifold base, really helped me realize how much nicer the Stealth was. I made 306 hp with the Stealth vs. 287 hp with the TPI setup, and there was probably a few more hp to be found with additional tuning.

I need to get bungs welded onto the Stealth base where the heads' rear coolant ports are located, was having trouble with what might have been steam pockets. When I'd restart the engine hot, like on the dyno or stopping to burn chips on the street, the temp gauge would nearly peg immediately after startup and then drop back to normal. My Accel intake base has crossover between the heads' rear ports, the Stealth doesn't. The plan is to add bungs, and build a Y circuit between the heads and the water pump return fitting to give the coolant a path back to the radiator.

u r sofa king we tah did

mine ordered recently is OK

tpi_roc

Just currious...

where has the cheapest price been found at?

grumpyvette

http://www.thunderracing.com/index.c...ategoryid=1125
thats $280+175=$455 for intake and base/plenum
summit will match it!(show them the add) and don,t forget youll also need a small dia, distrib. with remote coil (I used a HOLLEY, #890-160, I think was the number) it worked great (I checked, it was a
#890-160 distributor and #534-138 adapter plug

tpi_roc

Alright that was my first stop but the price on the rails scares me...



I was almost considering ditching the LT1 but I think i might continue that route.

grumpyvette

the steath ram fuel rails include a fuel pressure regulator and are well worth the price, they are almost twice as large internally as the stock fuel rails and both the rails and the regulator are much better than the stock TPI units

tpi_roc

I'm sure that they are... at any rate they're necissary to make the thing work...

Unless someone has figured out a way to make stock ones work that I haven't heard of.

bigals87z28

does the stock tpi harness hook up to the stealth ram? or do i need a stand alone system? even though u guys are havin problems with the intake, it still sounds like a great deal...

Jim85IROC

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Why not buy it from thunderracing directly? They are a sponsor of this site, so as long as they are the same or cheaper than Summit, it benefits everybody involved by supporting the sponsors.

u r sofa king we tah did

i got mine from summit for 279.99 and the fuel rails with adjustable regulator for 215. then the stainless braided fuel line stuff was 51.xx, this was placed in two seperate orders and summit refunded my handling charges (7.95 per order) on both orders. they seem to do that with every order i make with them, they send me a notice in the mail that my credit card has got a 7.95 refund on it, and it always shows up, so i keep giving them my buisness while they treat me good. i have nothing but good things to say about summit, never once a messed up order, never have done me wrong so they are my company of choice. im getting it all for list price, no shipping charges since ground is free with them, and no handling charges. cant beat that

gsf-87IROC

I'll have to check my stealth ram...I hadn't heard about the issues when I went to install it.

I did have some chips in the fuel rail though.

grumpyvette

Jim85IROC
I too would suggest they buy it from a supporting vendor, it only makes sence to support your friends before giving business to strangers
http://www.thunderracing.com/index....categoryid=1125

the summit racing idea was only to make everyone aware that more than one supplier is available

kevinc

I spoke w/ Holley tech support today, they are sending a replacement base and gaskets. They're aware of the problem and have a fix-kit part# at tech support for just the base and gaskets, you keep your current non-problematic plenum box.

Very good handling of the problem...gave my credit card # but it won't be charged unless I fail to ship my old intake back.

Also...Thunder Racing offered to exchange it under the warranty, very cool of them. I've been buying stuff from Thunder for years now, never been anything but happy. Given they support thirdgen.org it makes an easy decision even easier.

Kingtal0n

heres a question:
will a TPI setup from a 92 camaro fit a pre-86 engine?
if not, is there a way to make it fit?

And...
If I made a 92 TPI setup fit my 76' engine, Then wanted a Stealth Ram for it, Would I order the Stealth ram Thunder Racing has? OR do i need a special stealth ram for my pre-86 engine?

Weirdo stuff eh.

e-man

The only difference from the 92 to pre-86 is the two center intake manifold bolts on the heads are at different angles.The new Stealths should be drilled for both if not its not hard to do yourself.

Scott_92RS

The Stealth Ram I ordered from Thunder Racing a couple weeks ago arrived with slotted holes to fit both style heads, so you should be OK.

Kingtal0n

thanks guys!
I cant understand how holley can charge $2300 for parts in a kit you can get individually for under $1600 with a little shopping! I guess they figure if you want it all together you will have to pay much more $$$... Although I have yet to put the items together maybe it will cost just as much!

Tibo

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I don't know if replying to this post will bring it back alive or what, but here goes.

I rebuilt my 350 to 355 and have 1700 miles on it's clock. I have been burning oil like it is going out of style. We are talking one quart every 150-200 miles. My plugs are not fouling but deffinatly show signs of oil in the cc.

Pull intake after learning about this problem...Bingo!

Call Holley and very politly tell them about my problem and conclusion. He tells me this "..has not happened before.." So I will have to have mine sent in and they will put it on there test block and try it.

I explained that I am a member of this board as well as the stealth ram boards and othere people HAVE had the problem and it was handled quite well.

His tone changes and he says "O, That is where I thought you learned about it..." and he gives me to the QC manager of Holley, his voicemail that is, for the last three days. No reply from "Mr. Tip Tyler" yet. This has been a very dissappointing issue for me, and I hope they will work to turn it around.

Has anybody else had this problem? Or even a similar problem?