Ghour_Demon

325hp 350ft/lbs vs 320hp 335ft/lbs
3450lbs vs 3450lbs
6spd vs 6spd
Rwd vs 4wd

If this car was available in the U.S. then I feel that stock to stock the camaro wouldn't be so lucky this time around.
The skyline with the 4wd drive would easily get the jump out of first and second gear, and since both cars have virtually the same level of power and weight, the skyline would continue to keep its small lead.
Of course some of you might say, "well for that amount I could modify it and blow this guy away" Then again I wonder how much the camaro would cost over in japan?
And for those who say "Let me slap a turbo on the camaro, cause the skyline has one"
Well then lets slap 2 more cylinders on the skyline and see what happens, or lets increase its displacement
How is a turbo V6 not a fair comparision to a larger displaced NA V8?

F0xBody50

The Skyline would win, but not by much.

-ONE2

84CamroHO

is the camaro running slicks?

Ghour_Demon

Does it come with slicks off the showroom floor?
If one has slicks, then both should have slicks.....

1991tealRSt-topGuy

oh so your a fair fighter huh?

84CamroHO

The Skyline would win. Because of the AWD.

Ray87Z

The Skyline would lay the smacketh down in a big way provided it is driven properly (ie like it was stolen)... Then comes the mods, oh boy.

rx7speed

a skyline runs like fuggin crazy


AWD with a 6spd

you can dump the clutch at 6 grand to launch one of those bad beast

and mod for mod the skyline would take out the camaro also

heard of many stock motor skylines pushing over 650hp. again no internal mods to the motor at all


they are just sick and also if you take one of those cars against a SS in the road track b'bye SS


they just cost a friggen lot of money and we dont get them here unless they are imported and used


japs get all the good cars

and they are still getting my bleoved RX-7 over there and not I though

85transamtpi

The jap ride should take the SS by a hair.

Given a choice between the two, Id choose the SS any day of the week. Also keep in mind Ive seen stock SS's ('01-'02) dyno 310rwhp+...so looks like theres a little more to the LS1 than 325hp.

-peace

Gunny Highway

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The Skyline would kill the Camaro, BUT since the guy with the Skyline got to spend $85K and the guy with the Camaro got to only spend $33K...does that mean he can do $52K in mods????

Or how about this scenario....the chevy guy passes on the Camaro and instead buys a Corvette ZO-6 for $55K, then sends it off the Lingerfelter for $30K in mods.....now he has a car capable of space travel.......

I'm just sayin', it's not really fair to compare a $85K sports car to a $33K sports car; even if it is the best bang-for-the buck buy on the market. Maybe that's one reason we love our Camaros so much...it's a regular guy's sports car.

Z28z

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Thank You Gunny

elevario

That's right. I really like the skyline and I think everything about it is cool as hell! But for 85 grand, that car better be fast as hell. Putting 53 thousand in mods on an SS would completely demolish the Skyline. But yeah mod for mod would have to go to the skyline. But it's just because it is Turbo charged. Turbocharge the SS and mod for mod will go to the SS. Skylines sure are cool though!

88irocz28

This dude I know back in my home country imported one from Malaysia. it's a 450 hp AWD beast, 6 spd of course. The car isn't anything fancy to look at (as if a fourthgen Camaro is ) but it is freakin' quick. It launches like it got rear-ended by a low flying B52. If it weren't for it's stellar performance on the track and the strip I wouldn't be a fan at all. It just doesn't have the sounds and the attitude of an LS1 car. Actually it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. No, really it does.

rx7speed

do you think the skyline was built JUST FOR GOING FAST??

yes it is expensive
but all that money is not going into speed

those cars have a lot of tech **** in them that your little SS doesn't have.
and the R&D they have to spend to work with these cars

the skyline is made to be a family car not a drag car.
just remember not everything in this world was made for 1/4 mile racing. it is a lux family car, while the GTR is a tweaked version of one.

Z28z

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Hey don't put down the SS!

elevario

I did not say that the SS is a superior car to the skyline. Never once. All I said is that for the price you would have to spend on buying one of those high tech/priced cars your SS you bought for a hell of a lot less could be made to kick the living crap out of this hell of a fast car. I know this car wasn't made for the quarter mile racing. But if you read the first topic, maybe you could have read that everyone here is talking about which is faster. In no way did I put down the skyline. But all of you who think this is the greatest car in the world, it all comes down to the eye of the beholder. This is that same bullcrap about how German cars are the greatest thing in the world. And I will state that I love bmw and audi. BUT for the price of those cars, you can just forget it. They might have all these cool little gadgets and crap. But for all of everybody that could give a rat's a$$ about the high tech and expensive crap in their car, that's why we have our SS. Low tech, best bang for the buck, GREAT LOOKS, V8 rumble, did I mention a LOT cheaper to get worked on, and all the goods to get the job done for a third of the money of a skyline. That's what I'm stating. So I will keep my LITTLE SS.

cobrakiller1989

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I was always under the impression that it was a rally car

cac91

Since nobody said it yet I had to. R34 Skylines are powered by Inline Six Cylinders, Not A V6!!! I wouldn't have pointed it out, but since you threw out all the other info I figured you'd want to know it all...

rx7speed

not putting down the SS
I love the car
just trying to point out that the car is not just a simple get up and go car

I like both the skyline and the gtr

but if I had to put my money on one I would buy the GTR

yes I know I would have to pay good money for one and not easy to find parts for at times.
but I love the looks, I love all the doo dads you get, AWD, and a I6 that is able to take over 650 hp with a stock block and a driveline that is hella strong. and there is more but hey

though if I was going bang for buck yes I would go with the SS
I just find the skyline a better car.... just too much money for me to pay for

but as you said elevario it's all in who is looking at the car. we all have our likes and dislikes

REVLIMIT

I think the skyline is a cool car...but umm....a ****ty one at the same time. The Skyline GTR costs around 80k+ O_o the camaro SS costs around 27k. The camaro isnt even considered int ehs ame leage as the skyline. Yet it can keep up with it in every way. Handling and speed. Kinda sad dont you think?

85transamtpi

I'll go ahead and say that. Everything on the skyline looks like it is made of cheap plastic. It looks terrible inside and out. And I really HATE driving on the right and shifting with my left hand.

-peace

elevario

I think it would be cool to shift with the left hand! But I have a question. Is the clutch on the right side to? I mean, the pedal that is supposed to be the gas pedal, is that now the clutch? Oh, it's cool rx7speed. I really like the skyline and gtr as well. Really neat cars. I was reading in some import mag about one, and he said he was running a MODEST T88 turbo! He had some cool stuff in there and had over 600 hp at the wheels. Cool car!

85transamtpi

The pedals are the same

I cant see how this thread is left open when many other "non thirdgen" threads are closed. We are comparing a 4th gen, to a car that will probably NEVER make it to the U.S. Good job Moderators.

smokin87iroc

see i'm not the only one

i still think the ss will win. 325 hp is quite underrated. when most of the guys in my club are dynoing at 310-315 rwhp there is no way they only are loosing 10-15hp through the drivetrain.
plus stock ss's are running in the way low 13's and even into the 12's
what does the skyline run?

Andrew

REVLIMIT

On the average I see the $80k+ skyline going low 13's. Sometimes high 12's just like the SS...oh yea R34 Skylines are known for breaking down alot. A guy has one here and his first drag race he blew up the trans O_o

Ghour_Demon

That person must not even know how to shift, and had to of made a fatal screwup to destroy the trans......

rx7speed

if a guy broke the tranny he must have ****ed up bad


those drivelines on the cars are strong as hell

I mean constant 6000 rpms clutch dumps are nothing for these cars

Racnoth

Mmmmmm.....RB26DETT in a 1970 Datsun 240z...the car that started it all....Oh yeah, the RB26DETT is the twin turbo motor from the skyline...it's a little old L-series engine (L-Series engines made their debut in the 1970 Z cars, as a 2.4, then a 2.6, and lastly a 2.8) around 2.6 liters. 300+ horsies outta a 2.6 isn't all that bad. Anyways, combine that with the sub 2500 lb curb weight of the old Z cars, and you'd scoot...and retain awesome weight distribuition. Just off the wall, kinda bored. Used to be a Z car freak, now I drive a Mustang

REVLIMIT

From what I know of he didnt evne screw up or anthing. I think he just laucned and broken. O_o

Ovrclck350

You're forgetting another key factor in determining who will win. Gearing and HP/Torque curves. If the gearing for the Skyline is set up better (not sure about any specs on them) then it'll definately win. AWD is not something to laugh at.

I'd rather have a Skyline any day of the week......but I'd feel BETTER driving around in an SS.

85transamtpi

You guys should really keep in mind that after you launch AWD becomes a major drag. All it would take is someone who knew how to drive the SS and some D/R's to even the launch. Also keep in mind that LS1's ALWAYS make up ground at the end of the track. I still think the SS would win. The '01-'02 cars are CONSISTANTLY in the 12's stock...A4 or M6.

-peace

giovanhalen

Back in 1986 I was stationed over there and Skyline turbo's were cop cars. They looked better back then to me. My buddies had regular skylines of various ages some were four cyls. and some were straight sixes. They are importing them over here but really who would want one? For the money you would have to spend they are POS. For 85K i'll build a Hemi Belvedere or an aluminum big block Chevelle or Camaro and leave that puny 6 in my wake! Don't say they are fast stock either because stock they only have 276 horsepower.

Ghour_Demon

Saying the skyline has only 276hp is like saying the 69 copo camaro had only 450hp and the 89 turbo trans am has only 250hp, all three of these cars are severely underrated for insurance

88irocz28

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Saying the skyline has only 276hp is like saying the 69 copo camaro had only 450hp and the 89 turbo trans am has only 250hp, all three of these cars are severely underrated for insurance

Actually, the Skyline is rated at 276 hp because Japanese laws require automakers to keep a 280 cap on horsepower. The Lancer Evo VI is a good example. The turbo four banger is rated at only 280 bhp yets scoots from 0-60 in less than 5.5 seconds and has a top speed in excess of 140 mph. Being AWD, the car is no lightweight either. IIRC, it weighs in somewhere around 3100lbs. After driving the car, Road & Track wrote it felt closer to the higher side of 320 bhp.

BTW, can anyone please explain why the Skyline costs $85k? If I had that much money to spend, might as well go for a BMW M5.

rx7speed

the normal skyline (family lux car) might be bought in the states for 30k IF they import it

reason why the v-spec is so damn expensive is they dont make them here so you have to have them imported (not cheap) then made to pass US smog (not cheap), and then all the motor and susp mods this car gets stock vs just the normal plain jane skyline