z28onTweenkies

Hey guys i know everyone here is rather knowledgeable when it comes to street racing and i've got this friend who just turned 16 and has a newer mustang v6, its a 2000. He runs his mouth off about how it has "193" horsepower stock. Thats the thing, his car is completely stock. He's one of those kids who says "sticks are faster then autos" you know, hes just one of those trash talking kids who knows nothing. So my car has 170 horse stock, ive beaten an 85 iroc with 220 horse, ive beaten three mustang gt's (86, 88, 89) so i dont think he would be a big threat. My mods are below, and im putting down 70 bucks on it. He hasn't done a thing to the mustang, and its an auto. It will be a quarter mile race more then likely. What do you guys think? I will post the results when it happens later this week, thanks

RB's84camaroF-41

you may want to watch out for that one, MM&FF got a 14.9 outta one just by removing the jack and spare but that was a 5 speed, the auto will be slower. Since he is a newbie he'll probably get a bad launch, you will most likely beat him but let your ears be prepared for numerous excuses

tpivette89

ive wondered this also. i own a 84 Z with the LG4 engine, and want to know if i can take a V6 stang. anyone know what these run and its hp?

mss

well tpivette , your car will be somewhat slower than an 87 lg4 since in 87 they were roller motors producing 170hp and 250tq . your z28 is rated @150hp 240 tq . if yours is an auto i believe it will have 3.23 gears . as far as you beating a 99+v6 stang , i REALLY doubt it . unless the other driver is useless .

z28onTweenkies

i bet nobody gave me any chance to beat the iroc or any of the gt's either, everyone dogs the Lg4's, and i dont see how they are bad motors. I'm almost certain i can hit 14's with posi, gears and headers. But im going to skip all that and put a new motor in. But seriously, you guys dont give me much hope if the driver lacks any error? Wow, thats terrible. I'll be sure to let you know

Jims83TA

Well I may have the answer to all your questions. My friend has an '86 SC with the LG4 in it...and he raced his brothers '95 6 cylinder Mustang with the GT appearance package. So off the bat the camaro SC has no gfx..yet the mustang does. Both were auto by the way. The stang won the race. I saw it with my own two eyes....the camaro is in great running condition and he hasnt had a problem with the motor yet...for an LG4 it is running pretty damn strong and not giving him any problems what so ever. Off the line it was very close...but then the mustang just passed him....he didnt blow the doors off the camaro...but he still won. Remember the LG4 isnt the fastest of all V8's...just keep that in mind. Also remember how newer technology is pumping out more HP on the newer cars.

James

5.0mustang

Remember the 95 stangs sucked. The new ones are much faster and the auto would probably go 15.5-16.0 and the launch would be no problem, probably no spin.

RB's84camaroF-41

If the autos run 15.5-16 then it would be a dead even race with my LG4 car, 84 with 150 hp, believe it or not i run 15.7's bone stock

tpivette89

i wish my Z28 ran 15.7s stock. with my brother driving and a horrible 60ft (2.4), he went 16.6. if i was driving, i could probably get it into the 16.2 range. did you actually run that at the track? ive never heard of a LG4 running that fast stock

z28onTweenkies

dude, i will run my car at the tracks and record it even, im promising you a 15.3-below pass. these cars respond well to mods thats for sure. it was a dog, and in overdrive it is a dog as well, but when you manually shift it, the car does a good job. now, the L03 is a little worse i would think, tbi isnt as popular as carbs as far as performance, how many people choose to build up a throttle body?

85_ZED28

LG4's ROCK!! :rockon:

I'd rather have an LG4 than a LO3-TBI anyday!!

1991tealRSt-topGuy

hey jeff, i am kinda in the same situation

some kid where i used to work has a 2001 pustang V6

i raced him in my 3.1 RS
he beat me the first time
but then i beat him twice after that......... (i think he had really bad reaction time)

anyways, would i be able to take him with my newly adopted Z28?

1991tealRSt-topGuy

oh yeah, jeff

you left your incubus cassette in the tape deck

when i get some money i mail it to ya

RB's84camaroF-41

sure did TPI, Twin City Dragway in Monroe, LA. had a 2.09 60'

TonyC

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head on over to the TBI board, there's plenty of people that mod the LO3

tpivette89

thats amazing, i always thought the 15s were reserved for the L69 engine. i wonder what they run if an LG4 is running high 15s. i would have gotten close to that number in my Z, but that night my younger brother was driving (i was in the vette), and he got horrible 60fts, and messed up the manually shifting the auto. you guys are right about that, manually shift the car and it helps tons. out of curiosity, what rpms do you shift at?

RB's84camaroF-41

I shifted at 4200 every single shift and that was manually. now i have a shiftkit that does it for me but as soon as my engine breathes better i'll have to get one of those slap shifters and shift at 5k or 5500 like everyone else

Mustang5L5

No factory 94+ Mustang has GFX. The GT appearance package back in '95 was nothing more than foglights, 16" 5-spoke rims and a spoiler and a small stripe on the rocker.

Anyway, 94-94 V6's had 140HP and were very slow cars.

99+ are a different story. They are a little quicker than the 94-98's but still slow. I had a friend recently test drive a 2000 V6 Mustang. He called me up to say "Well i was disappointed. It's a Mustang....but it was slow" He actually didn't even know they put V8's in these cars!

Anyway, to the orginal post, it sounds like the typical "mommy and daddy buy their 16 year old a new car" and they think it's the fastest thing in the world. Most kids who think their car is a rocket have NEVER driven anything else. After a while, you get used to your car's speed and you think it's a rocket.

Off topic. I give people rides in my car who are used to 80HP 4-bangers. What I think is a tame ride scares the **** out of them

Speed is relative

tpivette89

-previously posted by Mustang5L5:
Anyway, to the orginal post, it sounds like the typical "mommy and daddy buy their 16 year old a new car" and they think it's the fastest thing in the world. Most kids who think their car is a rocket have NEVER driven anything else. After a while, you get used to your car's speed and you think it's a rocket.

what the hell is this? first off, im 23, and secondly mommy and daddy never bought me any of the 5 cars ive owned. in fact, im still paying off my two current vehicles. and no one here said their LG4 car was the fastest thing in the world. i also drive a 89 vette, the LG4 Z28 ive been writing about is my daily driver, so i can safely say i know whats fast and whats not. i joined this site to get information about carbed fbodies, as all the ones ive ever owned were FI. this post is letting me know what others are doing to their cars as well as what they run. im sick and tired of people starting fights on this website. it seems that every other post turns into a pissing contest. please, lets try to grow up people.

-also posted by Mustang5L5:
Off topic. I give people rides in my car who are used to 80HP 4-bangers. What I think is a tame ride scares the **** out of them

oh, and guess what? your ride is tame compared to mine, but if you **** on my seats ill make you pay for them. sorry about the bitchin, but im tired of the useless bickering

RB's84camaroF-41

Tpi when you finally drag race the LG4 let me know how ya do, i'm interested to see what other stock lg4's run. soon mine will get a manifold and cam. get a lil more oomph

mss

glen you will have no problem with v6 stangs in that car , i used to wipe them all the time on 37 that car has some go to it . oh and i was looking for that tape

z28onTweenkies

i manually shift my car at a little above 5 grand, it pulls really hard after 4 thanks to the hood and the open air element. with my 2.73's im not really pullin all that fast and id rather shift higher into my powerband in second gear. for some reason my car is now making more power up top then it did when it was stock. mods are below. and also, im a member of a mustang board and they tell me i will smoke the little 6, time will tell

riggs86iroc

first off why is a mustang on a chevy and pontiac website?? but as far as the lg4 motors vs. newer v6. they are pretty close due to wieght and fuel injection. but the lg4 is a great motor. i have a 86 iroc-z with the lg4 305 q-jet carb set up when the car was all stock it only ran 16.4@85 thats not to bad for all stock. but with little aftermarket parts you can get these engines moving. i think your beat the mustang mainly because i think fords suck but still think you well beat him.

86 iroc-z
305 with q-jet carb
270h comp cam
flowtech headers strait no pipes no mufflers
eldelbrock air filter system
old time 16.4 @ 85 mph
new time when track opens up
raced and beat 96 camaro v6 with only headers no cam!!!

5.0mustang

Hey riggs, I've been on here for a while and have gotten respect from most guys on here. He asked a question about a Stang and I answered it. Actually it's a GM website and there are quite a few stang guys here, and even some import owners. The reason were here is to learn about your cars and teach you about ours.

Mustang5L5

Woah..TPIvette, that post was not directed at you at all. Did you think it was? I wasn't even bashing you or any camaro for the matter. I was commenting on the kid with the V6 Mustang that was the topic of the original post...not you or anyone else on this board.

I'm the last person here who wants to start a fight

z28onTweenkies

Mustang 5LS, you've been nothing but cool since you've been here, im sure it was just a misunderstanding by tpivette. You hit the nail right on the head about the kid being a spoiled brat and thinking that his car is hot stuff when it really isnt. I've got another guy wanting to race me now, hes got a 2001 camaro v-6. I wouldnt put a thing on my winning that one. I'm probably going to beat the stang, then get humbled by the slightly modded camaro.

tpivette89

sorry about that, then. i thought it was directed on LG4s. i just get all fired up when i hear the phrase "mommy and daddy mustave bought it for you". hardley anyone believes me that i am paying for my car alone, they cant believe that a guy in his early 20s could be driving a corvette. i gt that all the time. my apoligies Mustang5L5. RB's84camaroF-41, im going to try to get to the track tomorrow and drag my Z for myself to try and get some good numbers out of it. ill keep you posted

RB's84camaroF-41

sweet, i've decided to get a carb rebuild kit and some new hangers and rods along with bumping up my timing to 8* and getting a low 15 out of her ( crossed fingers)

Mustang5L5

No prob TPIvette, i get the same thing a lot actually. I've owned 3 decent cars already as well as two dirt bikes (still have one) and I'm playing on buying a street bike for this summer. People ask me if i had help and I just laugh. I've been working and buying my own stuff since I was 14. I'm 20 now.

But some people have had stuff handed to them. It's not fair, but what can ya do? The way I see it, i've always gotten more enjoyment out of something I worked hard for than something I didn't. I'm reminded of that everytime I go for a cruise down the beach in the summer

redRS92

hi
i raced a bone stock 2000 v6 mustang automatic and beat him pretty bad i have a 1992 camaro rs 3.1 v6 automatic. my mods are a flowmaster exhuast,k&n air filter, jet power pulleys, jet stage 2 chip,crane ignition,transgo shift kit and richmond 3.73 rear end. its not that hard to beat one. so i think you can take him
let me know what happens.

Jims83TA

Just to let you know...the brothers with the V6 Stang and the LG4 SC are 2 of my best friends...and neither are spoiled...and thier cars were not given to them. They pay monthly for them...thier parents loaned them the money. But I fully understand where you guys are coming from with the kids with 30 thousand dollar cars just handed to them. It just isnt right..but think of it this way...if your parents were to just hand you a brand new SS or Firehawk...would you turn it down??? Most people wouldn't. Many kids at school roll up in thier M3's,Benz's, or thier Infinity's and hell yea they are some pretty nice cars...but they did nothing for them. Must be nice to be spoiled...oh well.

James

TonyC

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Very true, a ton of kids have brand new b'mers and infiniti's and volvos and stuff at my school. They get pissed when you beat them in a car that cost as much as one of their wheels, looks better, and sounds cooler. Working for something makes it that much more rewarding when you finally get it.

87_Camaro

man all this talking about LG4's makes me happy , people tell me 305 LG4's suck, are slow as hell blah blah blah, but I have one and *** damn it I will make it kick ***, even the people at don's hot rod tell me my car is hopeless, they can blow me for all I care, it's better then an L03!

tpivette89

yeah, theres nothing wrong with the LG4, its a chevy V8 after all!!! i plan on improving my Z until it hits the 13s. id like to do it all N/A, but ill go the nitrous route as a last resort. what do you guys think itll take to get a LG4 into he high 13s?

hot86z-28

hold up, i will come out and say the parents bought my car for me, but i will be damned if i am gonna be told that mommy and daddy bought me a car because i am 16 and am spoiled. they might have bought the car, and right now it is how they bought it, stock, but if i ever want to do anything to the car it will be on my own hands, unless it is givin as a gift(ie: christmas, birthday). i am not raggin on you guys but just because my parents bought me the car doesn't mean i dont respect it, the transmission is prob. gonna have to be rebuilt here soon and i am just prayin dad helps me pay for the rebuild or a new transmission, i mean come on for a 16 year old kid money just doesn't grow on trees, not that it does for you guys but u got sycamore's compared to what i got.

not knocking on anybody cause i know what you mean, my friend's parents bought him a brand new Acura RSX and he thinks it's the fastest thing on 4 wheels, he's already got races lined up that he will get smoked in, but o well.

i also find it funny that he and a few of the other import guys wont race me or my buddy with a rustang, because we have v8's, lol.

but on the first post: if you have beaten an iroc and 3 fox body gt's my money would be on you. good luck

RB's84camaroF-41

My parents bought me my car but I earned it trust me. I love my car and it cost less than my friends set of 17'' wheels LOL

mss

seriously , find a set of vortec heads , (along with the intake man) , do your exhaust , (thats a must!!!) . a fairly potent cam , and ill bet you come pretty damn close

1991tealRSt-topGuy

yeah i can believe it man!!!!

i was showing the Z28 to my "musclecar friends" last nite and they loved it

i think i might have a deal on a T5 tranny........


yeah, i'll send ya the tape sometime soon.........cant let my sister find it cuz thats her favorite band.............

mss

haha its cool man . hope ya get the t5 . and if you install it , ya HAVE to let me drive it , that was my dream to drive that car after i did the t5 swap but i ran out of money

V6canvas

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I hear your pain with the spoiled HS kids. Come over to Novi MI. When i was going there (class of '99), the most $$ rides were the typical mustangs, camaros and a few trucks. Now, (my brother is a senior) there are people with BRAND NEW C5s, boxters, escalades, etc. Must be nice...... And get this, usually i hear about these cars when i go home and my bro tells me so and so wrecked their car and their parents turned around and bought them another.

If you were wondering, my HS ride was an '82 Mercury Zephyr off my grandpa for $200 (It was worth maybe $400), paid for everything: insurance, parts to keep it running, gas, part, gas, and you get the picture.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

one kid had an 88 vette in high school

and some other kid had a BRAND NEW 3000GT VR4

that was about it in my high school

then of course, there were numerous camaros and stangs

tpivette89

saw your location "new jersey... where the slime live", if your talking about what i think you are, that song rocks!!!

ericmac450

I run a 16.0 (last year) and I beat a 95 V6 Mustang 5 speed. We both spun out tires a bit, and I had a passanger maybe 130 more pounds. We raced to about 85mph from a stop and that is how fast I ran in the 1/4 so I figure we did right around a 1/4th mile. Anyway, I know the 2000's have more hp than the 95's but you should be able to take him.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

you listen to Morbid Angel too?? cool

must be nice to have a vette

i almost bought a 91 but the insurance was gonna be $7000 a year so i couldnt.................justification for me to build a 12 second camaro

89Formula5.0

Who won?
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:lala:

1991tealRSt-topGuy

i'm sending the money order for it out on saturday

i should be able to get rest of the parts i need for it in about another month or two............when i get all the parts, i'm gonna put register it, plug the tire, drive it down to work and put the T5 in (off the clock)...................then i'm gonna concentrate on the body...........i almost have the fender bent back correctly..............i am having a tough time deciding on a color and whether or not i want to upgrade to the 91/92 Z28 body style.............
also i found 383 shortblocks for $1350.......so i think thats whats going to replace the LG4.............then in time, a T56 will be put in.........whew, i'm out of breath

vic_V8

I read about half the replys and have this to say, I've taken them on the road and track all the time, unless its good driver, and he does some free stuff, I doubt you have anything to worry about. but if it is a good driver and he lost some weight be careful

riggs86iroc

whats up with you guys and high school kids? i mean at least the got a camaro or a v8 car instead of one of those dam ricers!!! thats what most teens get these days the 3rd gen camaro isn't very pop with teens these days compared to imports give us a break.
my dad bought me my iroc-z for 1,600 that not much at all i pay for gas and stuff and all the mods i have done!! my dad has help me put the parts in but come on atleast were not driveing ricers give me a break!!!!!

its better to then to fade away!!

V6canvas

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riggs...
Its not the guys like you who have the $1600 cars. Its the kids who don't even have their licences (or just got them) and run around in $50,000 cars. My point is, how can these parents possibly justify spending $50,000 on a car that will more than likely not last more than a couple years?

BTW most of these kids complain that they have to pay for gas, let alone insurance, repairs any mods that mom and dad pay for. Won't they be in for a surprise when they have to get their first car!!

RB's84camaroF-41

yeah my dad bought my car, $1600 as well. just curious i was bitching about this guy that just got his license and his dad bought him a 01 Corvette. I asked my dad if he would ever buy me a car like that , answer NO, if you won the lottery would you? NO. I'm kind of glad he wouldnt i'm sure i'll fair a little better in life than those who are handed things on a silver platter then have to fend for themselves