LincolnHawk

This guy i know has the 2001 saleen.He is helping me out with my car..By the time were finshe..late june apox...i should be running high 12s...It should be a close race?what do you guys think
By the way..He is a major ford fan...He has built many many mustangs that are super fast..And he told me "I have always been impressed with GM,and Immafraid becasue I know in 2005 or so they will relaunch the new camaro..and it will be a beast..Somehting ford cannot compete with"..

vortecfcar

__________________
1985 Iroc LB9
60,ooo original miles
2nd owner from new
Future Mods
Nos
Parachute Kit
Half a brain
Not talking out of my ***


I like the future mods part......what the hell are you asking in this post!? You dont tell us the mods youre doing or anything, how do we know youre gonna be in the 12s? Sounds like big talk

LincolnHawk

talking out of my ***?
What do you know mommys boy,Dont sit there and call me out
you want all my mods im doing and take up half the memory of the server..sarcastic..So back off from me and dont call b.s.
This guyhas built many a great mustang ,and a few chevys,and i am honored he is helping me out...tHE PARACHUTE thing was for **** and giggles..

LincolnHawk

By the way if your car is so fast how come you cant afford matching rims?
thanks

85transamtpi

Well Im kind interested here, what are your plans? I see the NOS kit...that'll get ya to mid 13's (sealevel ) if you are running where I am. What else do you have planned?

-peace

LincolnHawk

Thanks for the mature reply 85tpi

Lot of basics..
Lighter rims,hood,driveshaft ect..
engine=port n polished heads.i cant do it he is for me..
headers-exhaust-no cat-
pulleys-
he said with thatanf a few minor things ALTITUDE CORRECTED
I WILL be in high 12s
I believe him

costill91Z

give us a good estimation of what you think that you are running now...
with nos and a few other mods, you should be able to hit high 12's on a good day if its tuned right, but remember w/ nos, it is a "sometimes" power and you can't use it all the time and if you do, you'll be replacing that low-mileage lb9 of yours. but good luck. i hope that when i get more cash i can get mine into the high 12's or so, but id rather use a s/c and not nos, b/c its there all the time!

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

Your gonna need alot more engine work to get that car in the 12's N/A. With a power adder yes, N/A no.

Mark A Shields

Agreed, how about a new cam? How much NOS you talking, make sure the block is strong enough.

85transamtpi

12's are possible with that combo.

Ive seen 305tpi's run 12's with stock heads, mild cam, headers and catback, and the all important 150 shot. I wouldnt be too worried about the block or pistons...as long as your fuel system is up to the task and you back off the timing a little. With the ported heads and other goodies you'll have, I'd suggest starting out at a 75 shot and working your way up. Definetly go with a wet kit. The NOS 5151 kit works well.

-peace

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

85,

"Lighter rims, hood, driveshaft, ported and polished heads, headers, exhaust, no converter, and pulleys."

You think this is going to get him into the 12's N/A??????????? I haven't seen him mention N2O once.

85transamtpi

Look at his sig.

future mods
N20

He definelty wont get there n/a but on the spray its very possible

-peace

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

Doh, gotcha, didn't notice his sig.

vortecfcar

the rims have drag radials that I run at the drag strip....I run the stock wheels all the way around on the street. Ive read your posts lincolnhawk. Half of them are about TTAs and the other half are BS. I didnt say I was rich....I also didnt BS my way into the 12s .

Tuned Port

what kind of Saleen does this guy have? ive seen 2 at my track the last time i went before it closed, and both were in the 14s. i know every ford guy on here is going to cry BS, but these guys probably sucked at driving. one ran 14.1, and the other was a 14.5. Perhaps Saleens come in different varieties and these were the weakest?

5.0mustang

I say you'll get beat. If he's built tons of Mustangs, than what makes you think his will stay stock. All he needs is a pulley, if it's the blown version (you didn't say), and he will go 11s. And you will probably need a 125-150 shot to go 12s with that combo, Just my opinion!

LincolnHawk

..thanks I do respect your opion..
I am going to use N20..Like i said i dont plan on going to autozone and 500 bucks later run 12s..
This guy is a ford freak..and when i lost my"mustangs are shi* attitude"my eyes opened up...I am in the process of learning and realize i will never stop learning..Yeah in the past i made b.s post..
I.e. viper v.s.my bone stock roc..ect..Those post are over I quit the b.s..I hope with this setup this guy is doing/helping me with i will hit high 12's..IF NOT AT least i tried

thanks
Lincoln

costill91Z

well, its good to try and at least have a goal. i don't think that you would be able to beat this guys saleen, but you would be able to take out many a stang, or even some ls1, and lt1 camaros, if you hit 12's. heck , even low 13's would be good!
just remember, that no matter how fast you make your car, there is allways someone faster, so don't get the cocky attitude that has caused so much tension between some of us car freaks
(and locked posts too!)

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

300hpse

iTrader: (2)

12s are a pain at a mile high but its doable, but even if you run a 13 and a half or something at altitude you could take a c5 unmodded, as for the rustang, it as always depends on mods and driver, with a few mods to his car he will haul some and hand it to most street cars, but anything running a 12 or low 13 at altitude is not just any street car so you really cant tell until race day, all i can say is either way, lose or win, a 13 or 12 second car is a hell of a ride and thats what i care about, plus throw some math in, 85 iroc-$2500+mods to cream a saleen=a h*ll of a lot less than a saleen rustang

5.0mustang

And for that cash, you could make a Stang cream a Camaro 305. Its not about the money, its about what you have.

300hpse

iTrader: (2)

okay tard, listen up, for what you pay for the saleen, you could make the iroc such a f****ng machine that it would hand the mustang its @ss on a diamond platter, okay. i can build a 700hp 350 for 15k or buy a 900hp merlin bb and put it in the iroc, buy dot slicks, a new bad @ss low geared rear end, heavily built th400 tranny and still have money left over to paint whatever the f**k i wanted on the car with money left over to fly around the world a few times, OR i could but a little saleen mustang that looks like crap compared to an iroc or any f-body for that matter, try me again stupid @ss

300hpse

iTrader: (2)

hey vortechfcar, their is no reason to develop an attitude because you think that you are special because here in the real world you are not, so dont start a fire without a spark or you will get burned, try to only post if you have something of use to say.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

That was funny and stuff but easy there.

I do have to agree with the technical data of his post, not sure thats what 5.0 was getting at though.

vortecfcar

Ive been around here a lot longer than you 300hpse, I know what Im doing. I did have something useful to say, Im tired of reading a bunch of posts that could be avoided with a simple search.... Instead of posting "what does it take to get my 84 berlinetta to run 12s" post your list of future mods and ask if we have any ideas or thoughts on how to help out. If you hang out here long enough youll see what I mean.

I know Im not the only one who gets tired of reading the same lame old posts.... spice it up and do some reading first. I know Im the ******* here but I know Im not the only one thinking this

Bluntman

heads, not a blower....VORTEC

wataru

If I'm not mistaken(and half the time I am ) the base saleen only has 5 more hp than the gt. You probably saw a couple of guys with the base model. Or they just can't drive.

5.0mustang

Actually I meant a comparable year Mustang. Lighten up a little, and yes the aftermarket for a FOX BODY stang is cheaper than the Fbody. Don't compare the two cars $$ for $$ was all I was saying. Remember for that money you get a warranty, a brand new car, no squeeks rattles or blemishes, and all the creature comforts of home.

I'll try ya. For 15 grand I could probably get over 1000 hp out af a fox-body, if done right. If you don't believe me, maybe in my spare time I'll prove it too you. But until then lighten up a little.

I hate it when all posts between two cars turn into a money issue. Those are never won or lost.

84CamroHO

This will in no way put you into the 12's you need to do some real modifications like cam and heads. Then add the spray and you will be runnin REAL fast.

LincolnHawk

I believe i put in heads in my future mods..please read post before you respond:lala:

84CamroHO

Ya I noticed that after, but instead of porting the ones you have, how bout a good set of AFR's?

300hpse

iTrader: (2)

5.0, you need to be a little clearer and i would like to KINDLY remind you that this is an f-body site, if you want to push your mustangs, please take it elsewhere. Me among others post here in favor of f-bodies, not stangs because that is what we like and i have no problem with you or anyone at all posting good tech data for f-body owners but i could give half a rats *** about what a mustang could do or does. They may straightline better do to there setup but they in MY OPINION are ugly, cheap, and handle like a garbage can rolling down a hill. And for the record we were originally discussing a newer saleen and an older iroc, not an older iroc and an older stang, you brought that up yourself to push this car you live and worship. To sum it up, stuff your rustang bull**** up your *** and look at the name of this website. And vortec, my only prob is you were the first reply to this and all you did was make sarcastic, unhelpful comments.

Mark A Shields

What kind of gears do you have? Most likely 2:73s and no where do you mention a cam or TC. I don't see any way of you getting into the 12s w/ a 305 and those mods.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

Straightline better??

vortecfcar

"This guy i know has the 2001 saleen.He is helping me out with my car..By the time were finshe..late june apox...i should be running high 12s...It should be a close race?what do you guys think " - Lincolnhawk


Lot of basics..
Lighter rims,hood,driveshaft ect..
engine=port n polished heads.i cant do it he is for me..
headers-exhaust-no cat-
pulleys-
he said with thatanf a few minor things ALTITUDE CORRECTED
I WILL be in high 12s
I believe him

you think these statements deserve something better than sarcasm.....a simple search or just reading threads would make it blatantly obvious that no matter how many mustangs this guys has worked on, there is no frickin way hes getting in the 12's....and everyone knows it except lincolnhawk

Mark A Shields

I think that says it all right there. Anyone ever heard of an IROC with just the basics, let alone a 305 hitting 12s.

rx7speed

WARNING! RICE BOY POSTINg

ok 300hpse I'm sorry but just by reading the post on this thread here I would have to say you should read the board a little better here

yes he is a mustang guy. so what?
yes this is a thirdgen site. again so what?
does that not mean he can not state his OPINION on what car he likes? I myself talk a lot of good about the RX-7 but do ppl bash me over it? no. why not you ask. prolly b/c that is my opinion on what type of car I like, and the fact that MOST the ppl here will tend to respect other ppls opinions.
he is not trolling the forum. there are quite a few mustang guys here that give a lot of help on both the rival of the thirdgen, the mustang, as well as also giving us help on aspects of the thirdgen.
a lot of these guys come here to learn as have I. Iam sure that they will keep saying that there mustang is a good car as I will keep saying that the RX-7 is a good car. now if you want to try to get us out of here I welcome you to go talk to dirk and see if he will ban us. I am for the most part sure though that you would not get too far and with a post like what you put above if anything it would make you look bad.
I'm sorry but that was a childish post.

also what abot this from you?
and yet look at your post in this thread alone.

I would not say they are that usefull.
if anything again you are showing a childish side that makes the thirdgen ppl here look bad. just calm down ok. if a guy wants to say that a mustang can beat a camaro you do not need to act like a typical type r honda rice boy and get all butt hurt over it and start with the name calling. be respectful. if all of us can do that we will get along


oh and also the saleen is not built for drag racing. it is built for road racing. there is a big difference on the setup on the car. and they tend not to cross over that well

oh and everyone sorry about ANOTHER one of my rants but I am just tired of all this mustang vs thirdgen stuff or the domestic vs import. if you keep it full of respect then that's cool but I am really tired of the stupid post were you get the idea of some thirdgraders running around making threats to tell there mommy.

LincolnHawk

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Dude your a idiot..You quoted me only partial..yeah i have heard of plent of guys with 305s in the 12s and actully a few well under that..Im sorry i havent learned the terminology to post b.s. mods..I rather be honest and i named a few he told me and tha i could remember..Perhaps ill read CHP tonite and then quote"performance mods"correctly to suit yoiur needs..

rx7..I have nothing agains you personally..Yet you seem quite upset all the time with the thirdgen guys myself included..You cant tell me f i went to a rx7 site..That those guys wouldnt be making fun "other"cars..Of course they would..So dont bust ***** in a thirdgen site..

Mark A Shields

What the frick is your problem. I was just stating the obvious. You call me an idiot when you don't know what mods you're getting. I know there are 305s that run 12s and even faster, but look at their mods and tell me they're basic. It can't be done. I don't think heads, cam, and gears are minor mods. Or at least to me. Those take a little money and serious time.
Oh, and one more thing, before you go calling people idiots, make sure you know how to use a thing called grammar. I'll let you find YOUR mistake, I'll give you a hint. Check the quote I just used in this thread.

LincolnHawk

So If i understnad right
a 305 lb9 with the following..
pulleys..heads port n polished..
headers,exhaust,kn,alluminum driveshaft.
weight reduction..ie hood..ect..
And a 150 shot will not get me in the high12s?

I dont understand this board..I post a thread and all i get is b.s b.s b.s...yet joeblow is posting on the same board..Did a donut in my moms minivan and lost my license..and everyone is all over it

LincolnHawk

Speaking of bad grammar..vortechfcar..this is how you spell camaro..not camero like on your r.s. page
I wont argue no more im gonna be like you
Check sig

rx7speed

they do over there also I admit it
and I dont care for it there either
I bust ***** when they do it as well
I feel that if it is a fast car then so be it it gets my respect. I just get tired of the "if you drive car x then you suck blah blah blah" crap

most of you guys tend to be with an open mind and that is one of the many reasons I spend time here.
just every now and then (and it has been going on a lot as of late) stuff like this will happen

Mark A Shields

An aluminum driveshaft I was told only saves about 5lbs. Could be wrong though. I'd say with the NOS would put you at 14.0. Now figure heads, exhaust a little over .5 . I'd say you might have a good shot at it. I just think you'll need a better cam.

85transamtpi

You guys would be amazed what a stock LB9 can do with a 150 shot. I'd say a 100% stock LB9/auto would run mid/low 13's with that big of a shot. Add the headers and exhaust, and trim down some weight you should be to high 12's. Im not saying how long the combo will hold together with that large of a shot, but I should be good for at least a low 13. Just be careful. Make sure your fuel system is in good working order, run a stock chip, and retard your timing a few degrees. In my experience, most people dont have engine problems, but trans problems. I hear a 150 shot can take care of a stock 700r4 pretty quickly. I wouldnt spray until 2nd gear.

-peace

vortecfcar

to start you spelled my screen name wrong- again

I didnt make the link to the picture, someone who doesnt know how to spell camaro did

you didn't list a 150 shot in your first list- you know the one I relpied to

If my suburban is a POS then what is your car?

I do already have a supercharger on it

my car doesnt run sevens....it runs 12.5s at 117MPH

my friend doesnt have a civic and it doesnt run 5s

My dad has nothing to do with the cars I build or buy....nothing!

....and Lincolnhawk obviously cant just reply to what I post, he has to take cheap shots....and even those are lame. I think its about time you stop posting and just read what's written. That way youll learn more and you wont look like such a moron in the process.

Are you gonna call me gay next or tell me your tell me my mom is a *****, that would obviously be the next logical thing

I think this thread is dead, maybe we should all just have a big fist fight to see who is better ---

LincolnHawk

ok....

Sauron91

My 3.1 with "basic" mods such as new wires and ignition is runnin' low 11's..woohoo! No power adder either.

Just ignore Lincoln...He's a flamer.

LincolnHawk

Now here is a moron.If your gonna reply ,at least read all the replys..I never said wires and igniton.Stop stiiring sh#t up..
And if your such a genius post your mods..not I bought a 400hp engine and put it in my car..

mss