88 iroc 5.7 vs 90s neon
01-18-2002, 12:04 AM
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88 iroc 5.7 vs 90s neon
88 iroc with a 350 caprice crate motor. this kid in my town with a riced out 90s neon, white, big wing, loud fart pipe, is talking **** to every1 and their brother that when he catches me on the main street im going down. now this pisses me off. im ready to race. what advantage do i have. i have a preatty stock tpi car except motor, k&ns, air foil. i dont no if he has nitros or supercharger. i have heard that neons get up quick because of their light weight. and their is a certain model to look for. is this true? what are my chances. if i loose to this guy i dont know what ill do. i think im a fair driver, at least i think a better one than the *** with the neon. thanks
01-18-2002, 12:11 AM
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I he's "all motor" you'll win, for sure. He'll need a supercharger, turbo or NOS. I don't think Neons' have different models, I think they are all 2.0L. In my experences the riced out neons' are even slower than Civics'.
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I'd say with a Jackson Racing Supercharger He'd probably beat you. And it would take a 90+ shot of NOS for him to win. You can put NOS on anything....is it good for mostly stock cars...probably not. I've seen morons put a 200 shot in a stock Civic. 95% of the time ricers with big wings and fart can mufflers DO NOT have any real power adders. More than likely he has intake, muffler and ignition; which equals like a 16 second car.
If you could tell us alittle bit more about your setup ie condtion of car, miles and What exactly you mean by a Caprice crate motor; we can give you an estimae of how fast your car is. Normally a stock 350 will run mid 14s in the 1/4.
If you could tell us alittle bit more about your setup ie condtion of car, miles and What exactly you mean by a Caprice crate motor; we can give you an estimae of how fast your car is. Normally a stock 350 will run mid 14s in the 1/4.
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01-18-2002, 10:45 AM
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I wouldnt worry too much...
I saw a neon R/T at the track. It was a 5 speed car, the only mod I could see was exhaust. He was running low 16's all day. I remember well because he was one of the few cars there I was beating all day long. If I can take one out, and you have 45 more cubic inches...
I say even if he sprays a 80 shot you'll still take him out.
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I saw a neon R/T at the track. It was a 5 speed car, the only mod I could see was exhaust. He was running low 16's all day. I remember well because he was one of the few cars there I was beating all day long. If I can take one out, and you have 45 more cubic inches...
I say even if he sprays a 80 shot you'll still take him out.
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01-18-2002, 03:37 PM
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I didn't mean to worry you....There's an excellent chance you'll walk all over him. When I first got my car (and was alittle more anxious to race anything) I'd go down to where people cruz' and I NEVER lost to a 4 banger, this was when my car had 0 miles on a rebuilt motor and the rest was stock. In the months that I raced I probably raced 30-40 imports, neons, sunfires ect. Very Very few take the time to make their cars fast.
01-19-2002, 02:27 AM
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aaaaaaahahahaha.. hands down neon.. why stress over a car like that? there is one respectable neon in phoenix Az and he is running 13's fully stripped interior and all motor.. i think you should walk him...
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01-19-2002, 02:19 PM
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Is this a joke? I mean really, a neon. You have a 350 tuned port, and you want to know if you can beat a neon? Stop wasting time on the computer and kick his ***!
01-19-2002, 02:24 PM
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You should beat him hands down. They are nice cars until people start to rice them out but you should win then tell him to stop talking all this trash about his slow car.
01-19-2002, 02:59 PM
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The R/T a low 15 sec car? They only have 150 hp! The LG4 motor has 150hp, and they run mid 16s at best. Seriously, a 350 IROC has absolutely nothing to fear from a neon. You guys have been watching "Fast and the Furious" too much. Neons are junk.
01-19-2002, 04:12 PM
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you will completely kill him...i raced a riced out neon with exhuast, and cold air...he thought he was the **** so i raced him and he never had a chance against my stock 88 305/lo3 automatic 2.73 rear ended camaro...dont worry about it and just go destroy him..i swear i cant believe we have to worry about 2.0 cars nowadays
01-19-2002, 07:29 PM
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the only thing u gotta worry about is ur hearin, cause at the start here is what u will here:
weeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwweeeeeeewewewewewe and then a little:
Boom BOom BOOOM BOOM and then the light will turn green and u wont hear much cause u will blow his dainty 4 banger away
weeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwweeeeeeewewewewewe and then a little:
Boom BOom BOOOM BOOM and then the light will turn green and u wont hear much cause u will blow his dainty 4 banger away
01-21-2002, 02:02 AM
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I've gone against a neon R/t 5 speed at the track, he was running 16.2s mostly. Have no fear. I'll bet I'dve beat him if my car wasn't so old/high milage because he was only 2 tenths ahead of me on our first run. Ah excuses excuses.
01-21-2002, 09:48 PM
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I don't think Neons' have different models, I think they are all 2.0L.
I don't think Neons' have different models, I think they are all 2.0L.
01-22-2002, 05:39 PM
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I guess none of you guys have heard of the increasing popularity of slapping the turbo kits onto the Neons? I know there's at least 2 different manufacturers out there now. And yes, they can really fly when being boosted....
01-22-2002, 09:02 PM
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Neons are junk. These 2.0L Chrysler engines blow head gaskets like its their f**king job. Take any neon with over 30k and it will have tons of oil leaking out of the back of the head. I see this everyday, as i am an auto technician by trade. So, take one cylinder head blowin car, and add 10 lbs of turbocharged boost? Right. These cars dont last very long. Theyre like road going grenades.
01-24-2002, 05:32 AM
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I don't even waste my rubber for a neon. You should ask to race for pinks and see if he'll shut up then, but check his set up first. If there are no heavy power adders. Confront him and race for pinks and make sure there are people to here you put your ***** on the line. Make sure your car is tune-up and revving good. He'll chump out when he see the bold and beautiful TPI and if you race all he'll see is your hand waving bye when you take off thru the intersection.
01-24-2002, 09:41 AM
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Don't even sweat a neon. There's all kinds of little ricers running around here where I live. The thing to do is beat him once or twice if he wants to race again, then he'll go tell all his little buddies about you, then not a one will race again. Aleast thats what I did
01-26-2002, 04:21 AM
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I can't believe my ears, i know that this has been said to you many times in this post, but a win can't even describe what you will do to this guy. Let me give you some advice:
First of all, when the light goes green, don't touch the gas, just flip him the bird. Let him take off first. He'll be looking in his rearview, so just keep your arm out your window (still sitting at the green light), and give the ***** the finger again (i hope you are developing a mental picture). Then nail your gas, and pass him in about two seconds. Then, slow down so he can catch up to you... you getting all this so far... when you guys are side to side, give him the finger yet another time. Then floor it, and hold your left arm out the window with your hand turned toward the rear, the whole time keeping your middle finger extended. Keep your finger out the window until you can't here the Thump of his radio anymore.
If you follow my instructions, you should be fine.
First of all, when the light goes green, don't touch the gas, just flip him the bird. Let him take off first. He'll be looking in his rearview, so just keep your arm out your window (still sitting at the green light), and give the ***** the finger again (i hope you are developing a mental picture). Then nail your gas, and pass him in about two seconds. Then, slow down so he can catch up to you... you getting all this so far... when you guys are side to side, give him the finger yet another time. Then floor it, and hold your left arm out the window with your hand turned toward the rear, the whole time keeping your middle finger extended. Keep your finger out the window until you can't here the Thump of his radio anymore.
If you follow my instructions, you should be fine.
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01-26-2002, 10:20 PM
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LOL THATS the funniest reply ive heard in ages
nice one
..just to add ....neons are pieces..not only exterior.ie..paint ect...but liek the dude said mechanically they are sh#t..my ex use to have one...it drank more oil than anything ive ever seen,,,,
nice one
..just to add ....neons are pieces..not only exterior.ie..paint ect...but liek the dude said mechanically they are sh#t..my ex use to have one...it drank more oil than anything ive ever seen,,,,
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Just to let you all know, my friend has a 95 neon sport coupe 5-speed all-motor and he's running high 13's. And I used to have an 89 GTA with a 350TPI and that ran 15.3. So the neon could still hand you your *** without turbo, if its done right. But most likely his only mods are are a wing and fart pipe. I just wanted to warn you that Neons can be quick(just takes a lot of time and money) , but this one is most likely not.
02-06-2002, 03:51 PM
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Just to let you all know, my friend has a 95 neon sport coupe 5-speed all-motor and he's running high 13's. And I used to have an 89 GTA with a 350TPI and that ran 15.3. So the neon could still hand you your *** without turbo, if its done right. But most likely his only mods are are a wing and fart pipe. I just wanted to warn you that Neons can be quick(just takes a lot of time and money) , but this one is most likely not.
Just to let you all know, my friend has a 95 neon sport coupe 5-speed all-motor and he's running high 13's. And I used to have an 89 GTA with a 350TPI and that ran 15.3. So the neon could still hand you your *** without turbo, if its done right. But most likely his only mods are are a wing and fart pipe. I just wanted to warn you that Neons can be quick(just takes a lot of time and money) , but this one is most likely not.
Is your friend spraying? (Not sure if all motor= no n20)
02-06-2002, 08:16 PM
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The Trans am!
Even if the neon is fast, in the end, it still looks like a neon
Even if the neon is fast, in the end, it still looks like a neon
02-06-2002, 08:39 PM
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NOt that I like neons, but did anyone else see the turbocharged neon at the auto show. It is a five speed with like 210hp, 205 tq, right in that area. As light as those cars are it would probably be a decent sleeper and suprise a few people. I have not seen what it runs in the 1/4.
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sure, any car can be quick. the problem is, there is one quick neon for every 1,000,000,000 slow ones out there. the chances of you running into a fast one are about as good as hitting the powerball...twice
02-06-2002, 08:58 PM
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I have to agree neons are prone to blow head gaskets. They leak like a screen door on a submarine. I see at least one a week in the my girl's shop(My fiancee owns a shop) for a head gasket($700). They suck. By the way Convert you are to funny. I only hope to use that this summer when i get a import who gets out of line. TPIvette is completely right about them sucking
02-06-2002, 11:44 PM
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Guys, as an owner of a neon (hopefully not by the end of the week ), i think even a 2.8 auto would beat a auto box neon. I think they run about mid 17s. the 5 speeds are about 2 secs faster with either engine (sohc or dohc, both are 2.0l 16v). With a turbo, they are easily low-mid 13s and if they do anything else, such as lightening, or exhaust ect they are faster. I know of one that is a mid 10 sec car (second link). Just something to think about. While they can be fast, they aren't generally, mine sure ain't.
as far as the head gasket thing goes, when the original (its a 95, so the redesign hadn't happened yet) went, i got it repleced and has not been a problem since.
http://hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/sohcneon.htm
http://hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/neon.htm
), i think even a 2.8 auto would beat a auto box neon. I think they run about mid 17s. the 5 speeds are about 2 secs faster with either engine (sohc or dohc, both are 2.0l 16v). With a turbo, they are easily low-mid 13s and if they do anything else, such as lightening, or exhaust ect they are faster. I know of one that is a mid 10 sec car (second link). Just something to think about. While they can be fast, they aren't generally, mine sure ain't. as far as the head gasket thing goes, when the original (its a 95, so the redesign hadn't happened yet) went, i got it repleced and has not been a problem since.
http://hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/sohcneon.htm
http://hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/neon.htm
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Originally posted by tpivette89
sure, any car can be quick. the problem is, there is one quick neon for every 1,000,000,000 slow ones out there. the chances of you running into a fast one are about as good as hitting the powerball...twice
sure, any car can be quick. the problem is, there is one quick neon for every 1,000,000,000 slow ones out there. the chances of you running into a fast one are about as good as hitting the powerball...twice
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Originally posted by DarkArkin
and the same goes for them 305 camaros im sorry to say but the 305 is a pos dont get me wrong the camaros are sweet lookin cars but thats it u all talk like the neons slo and its is but guess what so is a stock 305 camaro sorry to **** u all off but thats the truth!
and the same goes for them 305 camaros im sorry to say but the 305 is a pos dont get me wrong the camaros are sweet lookin cars but thats it u all talk like the neons slo and its is but guess what so is a stock 305 camaro sorry to **** u all off but thats the truth!
dude youve posted three times and there all sh@it starters..
305s are s#h%t?shutup you moron
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yea and most of the people on here are full of
yea and most of the people on here are full of
02-07-2002, 11:01 PM
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:hail: the 305 what a joke my 89 rs has 150 hp your tellin me thats nice rofl gimmie a break
:hail: the 305 what a joke my 89 rs has 150 hp your tellin me thats nice rofl gimmie a break
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:hail: 305 Wow you must be big men picking on little 2.0's with your 5.0 305's !! your not saying much when you beat ricers , now maybe if you could kill some of the sport ricers like supra twin turbo,, Or maybe some domsitcs besdies 4cyl mustangs. Plain and simmple the stock 305 sucks.
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02-08-2002, 06:22 AM
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isnt this post supposed to be about a neon? when did it turn into a "305 sucks" post? the 305 may be down on power compared to a 350 or larger motors, but we're not talking about that in this post. by the way, a 305 will kill a neon. and as for us being "big men" racing neons, i cant help it that stupid ricers throw revs at me when im at red lights. they asked for it. and my vette can beat twin turbo supras.
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I dont know how it happens! I could post "tips for underwater basket weaving" and it would turn into a 305's suck debate. If your 305 was slow, then I guess that makes every 305 a piece of crap. Makes sense to me 
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Originally posted by 85transamtpi
I dont know how it happens! I could post "tips for underwater basket weaving" and it would turn into a 305's suck debate. If your 305 was slow, then I guess that makes every 305 a piece of crap. Makes sense to me.
I dont know how it happens! I could post "tips for underwater basket weaving" and it would turn into a 305's suck debate. If your 305 was slow, then I guess that makes every 305 a piece of crap. Makes sense to me
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Actually, Nycro the Supras DONT impress me, especially when my dads nearly stock stang beat one with almost similar mods!
One post and your starting something?
And by the way the 305s don't suck, because a 305 stock can put out 300 lb ft of torque and it would take TONS of mods to come close in a neon. V8s, in the performance world are better, when equipped with similar mods, end of story!!!
One post and your starting something?
And by the way the 305s don't suck, because a 305 stock can put out 300 lb ft of torque and it would take TONS of mods to come close in a neon. V8s, in the performance world are better, when equipped with similar mods, end of story!!!
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Originally posted by Nycro
:hail: 305
Wow you must be big men picking on little 2.0's with your 5.0 305's !! your not saying much when you beat ricers , now maybe if you could kill some of the sport ricers like supra twin turbo,, Or maybe some domsitcs besdies 4cyl mustangs. Plain and simmple the stock 305 sucks.
:hail: 305 Wow you must be big men picking on little 2.0's with your 5.0 305's !! your not saying much when you beat ricers , now maybe if you could kill some of the sport ricers like supra twin turbo,, Or maybe some domsitcs besdies 4cyl mustangs. Plain and simmple the stock 305 sucks.
Might I point out here, two of the four street races I've had since I bought my 'bird were neons, and it wasn't me who initiated those "races" needless to say my slightly modded LG4 burns the hell out of any stock or fart-tip
"enhanced" neons. As far as 4cyl mustangs go, there are some SVT 4cyls out there and they are pretty damn fast... I seriously doubt that any other 4 cylinder mustang owners would even bother trying to race.
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