Tom84L69

Cruising Woodward Ave this summer and this punk in his riced out New Beetle revs at me. Now, my car has a nasty idle and a flowmaster with no cat, so it's not a sleeper.
This guy was serious and who was I to turn down a race, though my Z probably felt insulted. I stood on it in first gear at about 20mph and left him. Just thought I'd share some guy's misfortune.

rx7speed

wait a new beatle took you on??
WTF was that guy smoking
they are rated at what 0-60 at 10.x and the 1/4 at 17-18

damn man if you see him again ask him to share that **** cause it must be dammn good

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mean 5.7

if people are silly enough to race it's a race
good kill

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Ben87GTA

are the new beatles still coming with the turbo option? i've seen turbo bugs haul some serious a$$...

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Tom84L69

Yeah, this guy thought he was tough **** and if you know Birmingham Michigan, you know the type. Rich guy with a car that he thinks is fast. They just don't know the value af 8 honkin cylinders!

New Beetles do come turbocharged but they still only put out 150 horses, weak.

IROCThe5.7L

http://www.streetracingonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=b0ee3c66d95 c97bb174e8a438eb4241b&threadid=22969


^ Heh that guys Beetle runs 13's

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86SCBNJ

The new turbo bettles should have gotten the same bump all the other turbo vw's got...to 180 hp. Though I'm not 100% sure. I did see at the local track a Bettle run high 14's, it was modded. The usual stuff, chip, exhaust, locking differential (qualfie)... They can be quick... Sounds like this guy just had a regular Vdub...

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Tom84L69

You need a password to see the 13 sec beetle. Anyway, I saw some import drags on speedvision with an old school beeetle running 10s! Most anything can be made to run fast if you're willing to spend money.

I enjoy beating cars that people have spent endless $$ on with my less than $5000 V8 toy.

BuckeyeROC

Woodward Ave. I was just on it yesterday and today. I really want one of those street signs for my garage!

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LowStyle

Good Kill. We need to keep those people out there who think they can run with the big boys out of the picture. Tell him to go race a Geo Metro or something. He was probably high. Stupid flower power hippies.
But sure they are the only ones getting smoked if you know what I mean. HAHA

Drakar

I would have to agree the guy in the beetle is nuts to race ya.


BUT if you ever come up to Vancouver (BC CANADA), watch which bugs you race, there is a company up here that drops a euro spec VR6 and twin turbos it, to do 0-60 in 4.2 the give it porsche wheels and brakes.

otherwise good kill

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nebben

Oh my Hell...Yea, hippies that spend upwards of $20k on a new car. Easy for the pot to call the kettle black 'eh? Whatever you say Metallica breath...dare I stoop to your stereotyping and call you "white trash." ...oooh...

I'm done.

-ben
'00 NewBeetle 1.8T

91Firecrow305TBI

Metallica Breath? White Trash? lol I bet you would get some good laughs from the non-white crowd here. Calling every beetle driver a hippie is wrong. This new beetle only looks like the beetle of old. It is no longer the same air cooled, easy to work on car that it used to be. I bet if you opened the hood it would be a bundle of wires. The old Beetles are nice cars. As for the new ones, you should have gotten a Golf or a Passat. They are the same thing.

smokin87iroc

i vote that the newbies that flame in their first post be banned

Andrew

Built18t

yeah there are 10 or so NB's out here running 13's or better in the 1/4 don't sleep on them!

ImportsRsloths

There is like 15 new beetles in the entire nation running 13's..... we can all STILL sleep on them and if your one of the un-lucky ones to run into a speed mad 13 second bug just spank him at the next light

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87irocz350

I think nebben is another hy-po-ny.

Hazard143

I am a new beetle driver. I have 2 friends with camaros. And I have driven both of them. One has an 87 with a 350 corvette engine, the other a 94 v6. well, in a race I beat the 94 off the line but he will pull ahead at about 70 mph. So yes, I drive a new beetle 2.0 and I race camaros. they really aren't that fast if you think about it. Well, my friends camaros anyways.

Deserion

I'm sorry, but you guys really crack me up with your "Holier than thou" attitude with your GM hotrod wannabes.

Camaros and Firebirds, always, have never been anything special. More or less a poor-man's Corvette, if at that. Or trying to capture the "testosterone-laiden young men" who think if it doesn't have a V8, it's crap.

From my observations, most Third-gen F-bodies are faded, blowing oil past the valve seats, driven by country-bumpkins who don't take care of what they drive. It's been rare if I see one that's actually taken care of.

Personally, I'd not call that NB owner stupid, because a Bug can be tweaked to stomp all over your supposed "muscle car".

Oh, the New Bug is based on the Golf 4, not the Passat. One thing that you need to learn is information on different cars that you bash, because obviously you try to make yourselves look "manly" for driving your F-bodies. To me, if you tear on other guys for owning Bugs, you're in need of a testosterone booster.



They can be a formidable opponent in the automotive world. Just goes to show that some people can be completely ignorant on other cars.

-Des

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Crazy Firebird Kid

I seem to remember someone telling me once that they had ridden in an old beetle with a chevy 305 in it. He said they had taken out the backseats and that gave just enough room to put the engine in. Before I get flamed, no , I never saw the car, and no I am not positive the guy was telling the truth. I hate the new bugs, the old ones were ok. But can you imagine how fast a chevy 305 would be in a tiny little, super light weight beetle?

JR4444

Since when did this turn into a VW Board??? So take your little VW and go back to where ever the hell you came from.

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smokin87iroc

here we go with the newbies again


Andrew

p.s. are you trying to prove something with that pic or what? i can leave on the first amber and get a jump on a 9 second car and someone take the pic so that he's behind.

5.0mustang

Why if you own a POS VW would you than come on a third gen board to bash on them. You should expect posts saying VWs suck. I see posts on how mustangs suck and I don't take offense. Why do all ricers have to flame and get kicked off. Shouldn't they be TWEAKING their little VWs instead!!!
Just a thought!

Deserion

Can't call us ricers. Those're the folks who're all show and no go.

Not exactly possible to call the third-largest car manufacturer in the world a POS, mind you. Or the same company that took the top-three spots in Le Mans two years running. Or the company who revolutionized diesel motors with direct-injection technology. Or has designs that still look good while being 10+ years old.

In all honesty, your posting style is that of someone who's insecure with their car of choice. Someone who brags about whupping a 4-cylinder car with one that has twice as many. Not very equal, now is it?

Hey, you want to drive a 'Stang or 'Maro? Fine by me, I don't mind. To each, his own. I can't fit in them anyway, too cramped. F-Bodies aren't the pinnicle of automotive design or achievement, as right now most are fading away into nothingness due to poor engineering and careless owners.

Perhaps one day they'll be a collector car, but who knows that yet. Still, I must say, V8s aren't everything. Maybe back in the day they were, but with modern technology being able to pull horsepower and torque out of fours and sixes, sometimes the 8 just isn't needed.

Though, what do you get by insulting Bug owners? Or Volkswagen owners, for that matter? Does it make you feel like more of a man? Does it make you feel that you have a better car? It doesn't do diddly-squat, but make yourself look like a fool. Compare apples to apples.

Guess I'm not a man, even though I like Corvettes, eh? And have a '72 Stingray awaiting restoration (read: resto-custom).

Sorry to see that you're blindsided by only one type of car. I call myself a car enthusiast, as I like old, vintage, classic, and new. Though in the recent years, there hasn't been much offering as far as fun (IMO) from the American corps., their classic rides have plenty of spunk still within.

Enjoy the ride, whatever it may be. Just don't diss your oponent, as they may very well feed you your fodder.

-Des

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5.0mustang

You have to expect a narrowminded opinion on a Camaro website. Just becaus esomeone calls your car crap, don't take it personally. Just go to a VW site and call Camaros and Mustangs crap, you will get tons of people agreeing and we can all live in peace.

ChillPhatCat

Reality check... GM was THE largest car manufacturer in the world 'til the Diamler-Chrysler merger...

Plus, the Corvette Z06 has repeatedly raced to the top of it's class...

I have to say VW is a great car company, but the new beetle looks like *** !

Most of the people on this site don't have a problem with import owners and mustang owners posting here, but you can't come in and tell us our cars suck who the **** are you to do that? I post on a honda board regularly and I get plenty of respect even though there is a Firebird in my sig (I am a secondary driver of a '99 civic hatchback)... It's a game of respect.

As for the Trolls that have come to our board... LEAVE US ALONE!

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cobrakiller1989

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Oh man, thats good See? this is why i can like both thirdgens and mustangs. hahhah. nicely put man, i couldnt have said it any better myself

Now, to keep Tom's post from being locked and get back on subject...Nice kill. A worked beetle probably wouldnt stand a chance.

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cort351w

Deserion, why are you even on this board? No one on here wants to hear about how you dislike american muscle, V8s, and especially f-bodies. After thirty five years of incredible cars (sometimes just incredible looking, though) that have always been faster than most all of the cars you will run into (stock for stock), and have always been some of the best looking cars on the road, we have some justification for being a little high and mighty. Don't be a tardo and respond by saying that your 2002 NB (HA!! great little car but they are not for performance, and yes I drove one for two years before I got my 1991 WS6) can beat someone's 85 f-body or someone's 3.1L V6.

I don't understand why you would even come on here and badmouth us. Do you see the members here at your import board, saying your cars are trash?

Plain and simple, there is something very special about V8s. They are just good motors in every sense of the word (and the LS1s are even getting 30+ mpg on the highway, my dad's 98 Z28 got 32), the sound is better than anything else, what haven't they been used for?, and they are very easy, cheap to mod compared to say your average import or V-10 viper (I would love to have that motor in my WS6--I'd make it fit!).

Sorry buddy, but making an econobox (albeit a nice little econobox) fast and proceeding to say it's better than real performance cars is not smart. Even if you could beat us, we could set up lawn chairs in front of our cars and just sit there looking at how pretty they are. Shine 'em up nice enough and the whole neighborhood may come out the see! F-bodies are good performers that look good. Most all of us have yet to see a nice looking econobox.

To say that f-bodies are wannebe vettes is a nonsense argument as well. They are totally different (especially C5 vs 4th gens). The corvette is all independent suspension (for a long time, too) and very smooth, driving my dad's Z06, it's like you simply think about the turn in the road up ahead and the car corners . Corvettes have always been quieted down compared to the f-bodies. They are nicer in every way. The corvette is the more refined, made for the people that can actually afford to buy them (usually middle-age or older men).

The f-body on the other hand is not at all refined. The live axle (much better for launching) does make it hard to put power down on curves on real roads (most often heard genuine complaint by import drivers about f-bodies). The interiors are not so great (shoot, a powder-coated roll cage for an interior looks good to me, though). Look at some of the IROCs, they have the plainest dash setup I ever did see!

The corvette is top of the line, both for GM performance and for GM tech, comfort, etc. The f-body (pony, not muscle to me) is unrefined power, but it can also corner (unlike the old muscle cars). If you want to take this to mean that f-bodies are wannabe vettes, kid's cars, whatever, that is up to you. The rest of us know that they are two different things.

cort351w

You seem to know a little bit about american cars. However, you must also know that torquey 4 and torquey V6 (only 6 VW uses, unlike BMW) are both oxymorons. If you like being slammed back in your seat, you get an 8 or a 10 (could go higher with lots of $$$). If you like dropping the clutch at 4 grand just so you don't lug the motor , go buy an S2000 and brag about your specific output. BTW, if I had to drive a 4 cylinder , it would definitely be the S2000.

5.0mustang

True about the Camaro not being a Corvette wannabe. I've never thought that way and all of my friends who drive Fords would disagree completely with that statement. I personally like the new Camaro/Firebird better than the vette, and they aren't that much slower (besides Z06). Most people I know (some who own new VWs)would call your cars cheap BMWs before calling a Camaro a cheap mans vette. Just thought I'd comment on that statement because on this board you are the only one thinking this.

MattW

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why must we fight!

drop a LT1 into a beetle and then everyone will b happy




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