Syrin

Im jus curious..

My car at the moment has a 350, 700r4 with no mods yet cus no money heh but i just bought the damn car so gimme some time lol...anyway i just wanna see if its even possible to get my car goin as fast as a 96 cobra...with my 350...

Ace_Murdock

not a whole lot

Big454blockchevy

With enough money you can make a thirdgen as fast as your money allows it!

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383 86 Camaro Z28 ---1/4 mile e.t>12.89@108.8mph,,
10.5:1compression Dart Pro 1 Aluminum heads 215cc>2.05/1.60 valves,400 steel crank,cam specs:224/234 at 050 525/525 lift,3500 stall converter,shift kit,4.10 gears,770 Holley Avenger,Victor Jr. Intake,true dual exh,Hooker headers with 40 series Flowmasters,MSD Coil and Module.ALSO SECOND GEN Z28---mods:454 BBC,.546 max lift(doug herbert cam ) 750 Holley vac sec. ,Edelbrock Performer manifold,Holley electric fuel pump,Hooker headers,Flowmaster mufflers,beefed up 700r4 tranny, 3.90 gears, powertrax unit, B&M console shifter.

87irocz350

I AGREE WITH ACE MURDOCK.
THOSE CARS WERENT THAR FAST
WE BEAT ONE WITH MY FRIENDS MERCADES ML320 SUV. THE ML320 ONLY HAD A SIX CYLINDER.
WE WASTED IT!
BY THE WAY, HOW MANY PONIES ARE YOU PUTTING OUT?

mss

what year is your car ? theres plenty of things you can do to make an l98 go . hell if your short on cash , bolt on a 75 shot .

Syrin

my car is the 84 berlinetta model that originally had a 305

Nic

A '96 Cobra with gears and slicks ought to run 12's...do what it takes to run in that range and you should be able to take most stock and near stock Cobra's.

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1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe
13.29@106.66 - needs more gear and converter

1992 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible
14.23 @ 95.something - 100% bone stock motor - it's been a while since I've ran this one

1993 LX 2.3L Hatchback - "The Ride to VCU"

Moderator Stangtec.com, SN95.com

Co-Founder, Tri Cities Mustang Club
Amelia and Nic's Twin Terrors

Mark A Shields

I thought '96 Cobras ran high 14's. Nic, I know you know mustangs, but I could have swore a friend of mine (owns a 65 Mustang) said he saw some '95/96 Cobras running high 14s. Am I missing something.

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Gas= $20
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'86 IROC T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK HEADERS Hooker CatBack
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

CobraKiller

I'd have to say those 96 cobra's aren't all that quick because I've had a few stoplight wars with them and have yet to lose. Or even come close to losing. And most of them had atleast an exhaust. I raced one with headers,h-pipe,and a flowmaster exhaust and I still pulled away. The guy ended up following me and wanted to know how i made my car quick enough to beat his..hehe it was cool. But i'd say add some headers,full exhaust,lumpy cam,steeper gears,all the free mods and you should be going pretty good. Not that I'm playing cobras off as slow cars but i'd much rather have a fox3 stang than an SN95 car..So much more potential in my opinion.



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"Turn a 12 second dream into a 10 second reality"

Camrs89

just build a monster engine like mine...you'll be fine. hehehe

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1989 Camaro RS, 355 engine, 4 bolt block, 11.5:1 compression, 305 heads--ported, polished, milled, 3-angle valve job, 2.02 intake and 1.60 exhaust valves, Edelbrock rpm valve springs, 1.5 rockers--, Keith Black pistons, solid lifter cam, Edelbrock RPM intake, 750 cfm Holley, Holley Red electric fuel pump, MSD distributor, Turbo 350 w/B&M Shift kit, 3.73 Richmond Gears, Hooker headers, Flowmaster exhaust



My Pontiac's (my babies)
1972 Pontiac LeMans, 2 Door, red with tan top, 350 V-8, Edelbrock Perf. Intake, Rochester Carb, Turbo 350 trans with B&M shift kit, Dual Exhaust

New Addition (Don't tell my girlfriend!! [she found out...whoops]) 1968 Pontiac GTO, Rust free body, White with Black Interior, Original 4-Speed Car, 400 V-8 engine, Hideaway Headlights, Positraction Rearend

http://www.fbody.com/members/Camrs89/

poncho9789

It won't take much to beat a 96 cobra. They got the bad heads and they are generaly laging in the power department. My best friend ownes one and that thing is slow it runs 13.80@102mph

the car has
throttle body
cold air
4.10 gears
bbk off road y-pype and flomaster dual exhaust
diablo chip (or module)
pullys

I have ridden in this car and it is slow as hell.

If the car is stock it wouldn't take much you will just have to watch out for him on the top end if you can race him 1/8 mile you will waste him stock

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89 GTA w/700r4w/stage 2 shift kit,2800 converter, corvette servo, B&M mega shifter, TPIS bigmouth intake, TPIS large tube runners, TPIS 52mm throttle body, Ported Edelbrock centerbolt heads,Accell 30# injectors,holly afpr,GMPP LT4 hotcam,CompCams Pro magnum roller rockers,Edelbrock headers, flowmaster crossflow muffler,MSD 6A, accell coil,150 shot NOS. The new engine is in but I am still having some small problems.

[This message has been edited by poncho9789 (edited December 04, 2001).]

Nic

Cobra's really aren't suited to stoplight to stoplight matches. The DOHC 4.6L motor likes to rev to about 7,000 rpm and chances are you're not going to get to see a stock geared Cobra rev that high on the street.

The 1/4 mile is a different story. Remember, these are 305 hp motors. There's no excuse for anyone driving a 300 hp car to run high 14's. Check the Mod Motor section at the Corral and you'll see what these things are doing with the right gearing (ie. 4.30's or 4.56's) and slicks. Most people fear the gear and go with 4.10's or 3.73's...that's where they make their mistake. Their cars are crossing the traps at the bottom of 4th gear! That's not good for ET.

Anyway, let's do the math real quick...

The general consensus is that the 99+ GT's will run anywhere between 13.70's - 14.20's with a 5-speed. They're the same weight, so it's a good start for a comparison. Now add the extra 45 hp of the Cobra, and being conservative with your estimates, you've got a car that'll run somewhere between a 13.40 - 13.90. Add the right gears, and estimate a conservative .2 gain...13.20 - 13.70. Now throw in the slicks, and again, we'll estimate a conservative .2 gain and you can see, you've got a car that will run a 13.00 - 13.50 using conservative estimates.

[This message has been edited by Nic (edited December 05, 2001).]

Racnoth

Gear, gear, gear, gear, gear! I can vouch for Nic, I work as a lot attendant at a ford dealership...Cobra's feel rather doggy at lower rpms, but once you get the motor wound up a bit, they're a whole lot different. Unofficial word is the 2003 Cobra's are getting superchargers though....might make for some interesting competition, eh fellas?

Mustang5L5

All of the 4.6L DOHC Cobras are good for at least high 13's with a good driver. I agree, I have seen several 96-98 CObras run high 14's. My friend has a 96 Cobra and cannot drive. He ran a 14.6 @ 97MPH. I hop behind the wheel and pull a 14.0 @101MPH on my first try (keep in mine I don't drive 5-spd too often). The key is revving the motor up. My friend drives his Cobra like he drove his old 5.0L. Redline doesn't come til 6800 and he was shifting at 5500!!

MM&FF got a 1998 Cobra COnvertible to run a 13.8 @ 102MPH stock. They also recently got a 2001 Cobra convertible and coupe to run 13.4 and 13.5 @ 103MPH respectfully. Also, if you check around on the corral, some guys have been pulling 13.6-13.9 pretty much stock in the older 93-95 5.0L CObras. The potential is there for high 13's in all Cobra (even the '99's despite their problems) they thing is nobody knows how to use it.

Cobras love gear. everyone keeps thinking they are driving 5.0Ls when they do 3.73s and 4.10's 4.56's is the way to go! I have driven a 4.56 geared 98 Cobra and I think that's how it should have come from the factory. It didn't feel as if it was shortshifting at all.

Bob Cosby, the head moderator over at www.corral.net drives a N/A stock engined 99 CObra. What is his best E/T? Keep in mind, 1999 is supposed to be the worst year in performance for the DOHC engine

Here's his sig

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Bob Cosby - Corral Staff
99 SVT Cobra 'Black Cloud'

4.56 gears in an 8.8 live axle
JBA 1 5/8th shorty headers
Dr.Gas X-pipe w/Magnaflow catback
March Underdrive Pulleys
WMS Cold Air Induction
Autologic Chip
BFG 275/50/15 Drag Radials

Best ET: 11.95@112 w/1.68 60'
Maryland International Raceway,
01 Sep 01. 78F/74%/29.92/DA=1498'
3325 lb raceweight
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The only major mod there is the gears. Ford has a HUGE problem with undergearing their cars. If the older 5.0's came with 3.55's or 3.73's rather than 2.73's they would be maybe on average 0.25-0.50 seconds faster. If the cobras came with at least 4.10's rater than 3.27s, who knows...But ford undergeared them for the emmissions reasons. A set of gears in a Cobra is a huge difference...but how many of those who buy Cobras mod it like above to get full potential?




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Mike
--Black '88 Mustang LX 5.0L AOD--
BBK Headers, Off-Road H-pipe, MAC 2.5" Cat-back exhaust, UD Pulleys
3.73's, FMS "C" Springs, Tokico Shocks,
'93 Pony rims, Saleen Spoiler
5-spd swap VERY soon

-14.42 @ 98MPH (w/ 2.4 60-footer)-

87irocz350

IN 2003 THERE WONT BE A CAMARO\FIREBIRD MY FRIEND. TO BAD, BUT HEY, THAT ONLY MEANS OUR CARS ARE WORTH MORE UH.

Mark A Shields

He was talking about the 2003 Cobras.

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2 Tickets to game= $250
Gas= $20
Sitting 20ft. from MJ= Priceless
'86 IROC T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK HEADERS Hooker CatBack
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

BAD327IROC

96' Cobra's aren't fast and they do run high 14's on a good day. Those cars are junk and I have never seen a stock one run anything close to 13's. If your car is dead stock it will be a very close race, but if you wanna smoke him you would have to get a gear and exaust. This would put you in the low 14's with ease. Oh ya the new Mustangs aren't fast either(they also are in the high 14's low 15's.) Don't listen to this Mustang guy that says that a Cobra will run high 12's with just slicks and a gear cause they won't. Now if were talkin a bout a 4th Gen F-Body with slicks and a gear.....ya high 12's for sure!

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89 iroc 327
95 talon tsi AWD

Mustang5L5

So basically I am just talking out of my *** huh? The clocks must have been off when I posted that I drove my friends stock 96 Cobra to a 14.0 huh? My friend's 2000GT 5-spd ran a 14.1 @ 99MPH stock but then again, the clocks must have been off huh? I'm not here to talk out of my *** . I am here to talk about my expeirences. I am not biased to fords or chevys but I do know a thing or two about Mustangs since I am around them 24-7. But then again, I am a stupid Mustang owner...what do I know

5.0mustang

So your saying that no stock mustangs can run in the 13s. I take this because the cars you mention are two of the fastest easily atainable Mustangs. Therefore the clocks were off when my friends 99 Convertible ran a 13.9 with an auto and gears. I'm sure your an expert though. Lets not flame hear, lets share opinions on cars, and especially when someone owns the car you say he's lying about. Oh ya my friends stock 87 LX Coupe has a much better timeslip than another friends 00 SS Camaro.

13.32 @ 106.81 for the Camaro
12.96 @ 106.53 for the Mustang

OOPS it is beatable after all!!!!!!

BuckeyeROC

I'm calling BS on this one. A 225 HP 87 Mustang LX ran 106.53 in the 1/4? NO WAY! I love what Mustang guys consider "stock". "Stock" what shortblock? I bet the '00 Camaro's "stock" was EVERYTHING put in/on the car by GM except maybe K&N's. The Mustang's "stock" probably includes a cam/intake swap, gears, full exhaust, and some other things here and there. Or did he shave 1000 lbs. off the Stang?

Mustang5L5

12.9 @106 is obviously not stock.


Stock 5.0's trap in the 93-96MPH range. Stock Cobras trap in the 99-101 range

5.0mustang

Actually the mustang had pulleys, a ported throttle body, headers, H-pipe Catback, and a drag suspension. The Camaro had a full 3" SLP exhaust, Mass Air Meter and LID. The Camaro was on Stock tires and the Stang was on Slicks and skinnies. The Mustang also weighed 3000 lbs, almost exactly. Any mustang guy who knows NMRA's Factory Stock knows that low 13s to high 12s are the norm for nearly stock 5.0s.

12sMustang

Got news for you guys: that S/C Cobra may come before the end of it's competition in 2002. I hope and pray that Ford gives the S/C to the DOHC motor and gives it enough boost to make the last battle of the pony cars end the way it's supposed to. Don't hate me becuase I want to see the F-bodies go out with mustangs on top. Anyway, there's a lot of confusion as to which motor will receive the S/C, but here's an article from BON with some very hopefull info about the possibility of the terminator Mustang becoming the 2002 Cobra: http://www.bonforums.com/mustang/cob...torupdate1.htm

BAD327IROC

Why are you telling us about a Mustang on a Camaro/Firebird site? Why do you think that a mustang coming out on top of the Camaro/Firebird during their final year of production would be the right way?(which won't happen!) Ford has to put a supercharger on thier weak DOHC 4.6 to beat a true american OHV 5.7?......that is pathetic!! By the way, the Mustang will never be on top.


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89 iroc 327
95 talon tsi AWD

12sMustang

People in this thread were looking for information and one person specifically mentioned the S/Ced mustang for 2003. That is why I responded. Now as far as everything esle goes you may be right. It kind of sounds from the article that the 5.0 DOHC will be a step up from the 2002 Cobra. If this is true then the 2002 cobra must have less than 350. I hope it has more though. Also, I don't care if it takes an S/C to outrun a true american 5.7L. I wouldn't complain about the turbo if a TTA outran me. If it's slower, it's slower, but that still remains to be seen. I'm not going to take it seriously until they actually make it. Right now, I'm just hoping.

buddman91rs

1. there is NO supercharger for mustangs....they have nothing to copmpete with now that camaro and firebird are leaving
2. they are right about the rpms in the cobra, first mods for most peeps with cobras are 4.10's or 4.30's and a pro-5.0 shifter....power kicks in at 3800 and kicks on again about 5500....just keeps putting you back in your seat till redline at 7000......BTW 1st gear is good for 45 and second gear is good for 80..hehehe i know from experience

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1998 Cobra convertible
1 of 267 made in
white/tan leather/tan top
#388 of 3480
mods: tan bumper inserts, pirelli P7000's on all corners

my other car:
1991 Camaro RS
teal/grey 5.0 LO3
mods: 14x3 OE w/ K&N, custom exhaust w/ no muffler and resonated tip


BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORAL IMPROVES

LincolnHawk

Is it me or does there seem to be a bigger population of ustang lovers on this board than chevrolet?


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85-iroc
1 of 85,ooo or so
superunleaded gas
mods include:K@n stickers
octan boost<<autozone>>
removal of floor mats for less weight
Future mods
More stickers
mothballs
best time est.
6.8@210 m.p.h
392 kills
losses
nhra funny car
747 jet..it was nose to nose
Smoking Vipers
1 by 1

88 trans-am

I put the G-tech on my freinds cobra and the best it ran stock was 0 to 60 in 5.5 ,and 14.00 @101 mph. That was also with slicks. His car was the last year with a 302.

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Mike s

12sMustang

1. Did you read the article I linked? Why do you doubt that there is a supercharger for the Cobra? They absolutely have been playing around with the idea, and the terminator is a reality, but I agree in that production is not a certainty. However, BON seems to think that it will happen. When one of the big name magazines says it'll happen, then I'll believe it, but I do have my fingers crossed.

2) Do you work at Eglin? Have I seen you at the autohobby? During march of last year, I raced a white convertible 98 Cobra in my black 92 5.0 LX. I stopped and talked for a little bit at the autohobby, and then we went out and raced outside of the Gate to Eglin. Was that you?


Chris