kmcn47

he talked alot of **** that his 305 could do, last i heard he sold the whole thing with his hsr non running for very little and is trying to piece together a truck 5.3 swap? correct me if i got it wrong

Kevin Lee 487

This is what happens when wannabe thugs from the hood forget that V8s don't have VTEC YO

kmcn47

i would love an update that he sold his camaro and bought a civic hatchback and then took it from stock and running to "hot modded" and not even starting, like with the camaro which still to my knowledge doesn't run

Kevin Lee 487

^^ Would really make my day

midias

I wish my V8 had vtec

My worst lost was to a 10 second 1990 civic hatch

kmcn47

does thev8 in the nsx have vtec? it is a honda (or an acura)

midias

Honda in japan and acura in america and canada. Most jap companies added another brand because it was easier to market to americans.

The concept V8 and V10 both did. The production was a 3.2 or 3.0L v6 it made about 305 hp during peak years. The V10 concept made 500hp not sure what the next NSX will be it is rumored to be a variant of their dual note concept that was a hybrid, made 400hp and got 42mpg city.

What honda has said about the new NSX is it will be a V6 AWD with 3 electric motors. Also it will be built in Ohio.

Honda has never released a production V8 or V10 but they have made some amazing 1900 hp NA 3.5L V10s for racing.

Toyota in contrast has made production V8,10 and 12s I have even seen a celica with a toyota V12 and T56 swap.

t56 v12 celica
http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...1GZFe-V12-swap

Kevin Lee 487

NSXs use V6s. Unless you're talking about the new one. Then the answer would be no I don't think so.

From wikipedia
The HSV-010 GT is powered by a 3.4-liter V8 sending somewhere in excess of 500 hp (373 kW) through the sequential manual gearbox from Ricardo.

midias

Yea it is a cool concept racer I want a factory honda V8 but in every other country with gas at $7 and massive taxes on displacement you tend to see a lot more high reving 4cyls.

In the motorcycle racing world honda has produced more amazing exotic engines than anyone else and also inspired rule changes thanks to a few creative engines. Things like the 250cc I6 that spun over 20k RPMs

kmcn47

the concept is the one i was referring too, never knew there was a concept v10, also what toyota has a factory v8? tundra?

midias

Here is a shot list of V8 powered toyotas

1989–2000 Lexus LS 400/Toyota Celsior
1990–2002 Toyota Crown/Toyota Crown Majesta
1991–2000 Lexus SC 400/Toyota Soarer
1992–2000 Lexus GS 400/Toyota Aristo
2003–2004 Lexus GX 470
1998–2005 Lexus LX 470
1998–2005 Toyota Land Cruiser
2003–2004 Toyota 4Runner
2000–2004 Toyota Tundra
2001–2004 Toyota Sequoia
2005–2009 Lexus GX 470
2006–2007 Lexus LX 470
2005–2009 Toyota 4Runner
2006–2011 Toyota Land Cruiser
2005–2006 Toyota Tundra
2005–2009 Toyota Sequoia
2007 Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L
2008 Lexus GS 460
2009 Toyota Crown Majesta
2007–present Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L (Middle East)
2005-2011 Lexus GS 460 (Middle East)
2010–present Lexus GX 460
2012 Toyota Land Cruiser (Middle East)
2010–present Toyota Sequoia
2007 Toyota Tundra
2008 Toyota Sequoia
2008 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 Series - US market only
2011 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 Series (Middle East)
2008 Lexus LX 570



Here are the sizes by year


1963 - V - OHV
1963-1967 - 2.6 L (2599 cc) V
1967-1973 - 3.0 L (2981 cc) 3V
1973-1983 - 3.4 L (3376 cc) 4V
1983-1998 - 4.0 L (3995 cc) 5V
1989 - UZ - DOHC
1989-2002 - 4.0 L (3969 cc) 1UZ
1998-2009 - 4.7 L (4663 cc) 2UZ
2000-2010 - 4.3 L (4300 cc) 3UZ
2006 - UR - DOHC
2006 - 4.6 L (4608 cc) 1UR
2007 - 5.0 L (4969 cc) 2UR
2007 - 5.7 L (5663 cc) 3UR

If you are curious the largest one is the 5.7 it makes 381hp @5600 and 401tq at 3600 and if equipped with the factory TRD supercharger it is 504hp and 550tq


The most powerful NA is the direct injection 5.0 2UR-FSE it produces 394 hp at 6,400 rpm and 383tq at 4,000 rpm. The electric motors (Lexus Hybrid Drive) in the system add extra power into the drivetrain, allowing the combination to deliver 439 hp in total.

budfreak1

iTrader: (7)

I'll add on to the list, the Lexus IS-F with a 5.0 416 HP V8 and the LFA with it's V10 for an example of that.

midias

Thank you

Yes the LFAs are fun they can do 0-60 in 3.7 and run an 11.6 in the 1/4 not to bad.

budfreak1

iTrader: (7)

I LOVE the LFA. What a menacing piece of machinery, and OMG that sound!

89IrocZ350TPI

One day all our cars will be "slow" when the mighty ls10 comes out

RS Chris

Did anyone ever read about the V10 LS prototype GM built years ago. Read about it in GM High Tech Performance. That would be awesome.

Fast355

iTrader: (2)

GM dropped it for a far more capable engine. The 8100.

midias

I would rather they bring this back

http://www.corvettereport.com/wp-con...12cylinder.jpg

660hp 782tq

25thmustang

I don't really go on car forums anymore but this thread was truly worth coming back to read! Simply great!

cuisinartvette

New Camaro Ss
Variable valve timing theres your Vtec american V8

midias

Which motor I want to look into it. I know some had displacement on demand but the valve control did not actually help performance.

For true Vtec there would need to be an extra cam lobe to change the cam profile at high RPMs. Maybe they have ramped cams like Ferrari.

Thirdgen89GTA

iTrader: (5)

No, it could just be phase adjustment which qualifies as VVT on its own. One of the swap threads on LS1tech showed it made a big difference with the cam phaser.

Its the same cam phasing design that allows my 3.9L G6 GTP to make 240lb/ft @ 2800rpm, and 240hp @ 6000rpm. Sure, the numbers themselves aren't impressive. But the split between max torque and max HP shows a very flat power curve and you can tell in the car. Its pretty much happy anywhere from 2500rpm. Can lug itself around in 6th gear as low as 40mph.

Car traps about 95mph in the 1/4.

midias

Yea could be Delphi makes some really cool cam phasers, I would not be surprised if the new camaro had one. Most car companies use them, Honda, Toyota, Bugatti, Checy ect I think they are becoming standard equipment. I-Vtec is a cam phaser combines with an extra lobe.

I really would love to see more american V8s with better valve and timing control.

Thirdgen89GTA

iTrader: (5)

For the record, I do agree that a independently variable valve timing system like BMWs VANOS is better. They are expensive and complicated though. With the right gearing you won't notice any "lack of torque". 400NM is about 300lb/ft. The conversion rate is 1NM = ~.737lb/ft.
http://caradvice.com.au/wp-content/u...edynograph.jpg

The Viper has VVT too, it uses a concentric single cam design. Or "Cam in a Cam". There is a single phaser on the cam which moves the exhaust lobes independantly of the intake lobes. Mechadyne makes it, its awesome. So easy to implement too for existing cam in block designs. http://www.mechadyne-int.com/vva-pro...tric-camshafts

big hammer

the 6.2 in my truck has VVT.

kmcn47

ly6?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine#LY6

budfreak1

iTrader: (7)

He said 6.2, which would be the L92.

The new mustang has VVT too, in both the V6 and the V8, and so does the camaro and a ton of other cars.

kmcn47

my mistake

Guest

Stop talking crap about his 305. My friends LB9 5 speed ran 13.8 bone dry stock on street tires. So ha.

kmcn47

was your friend sojer? your both pretty well disliked on this site

midias

Yes it does, I think it is the first mass produced VVT pushrod engine and they were only 17ish years late to the party.

Guest

I was joking to try and flame it up again but looks like the fire has died. I'm too lazy right now, but tonight when I have a computer and not just my phone, I'll copy an paste, oh let's say ten, positive comments about me from other members on this thread. I love to joke around, and you just take everything to seriously. I think you have a superiority complex and that's fine, but you might want to get that checked out.

kmcn47

so you were deliberately trying to cause an argument, trolling? which is cause for ban? you know i dont have a superiority complex, i value the site as an informational tool, idiots bitching that they know more about what is faster then what because they do isn't going to cause anything but more idiots who learned wrong or heard wrong and never found out the real why, by doing, i get that your a high school kid and love your camaro, all about making v8 power and loving american muscle, i was you like 4 years ago, but there is a time to admit when you dont know something, or when you are wrong, and as for your comments the other day about that guy who got badly burned, thats just being a ******** man, come on would you really say that to his face? that made me not like you, i disagreed with you from everything you said in the forum about hondas, it was patriotic albeit misinformed and just opinion nothing based on fact, but it was ignorant, the worst problem with ignorance is being too stupid to want to learn the truth, there are import cars that will smoke thirdgens, there are domestic ones too, there are some cyclists who could probably do it lol, just mature a litte, don't make ******** posts like the other day and we wont have a problem okay?

Guest

Very poorly articulated. I honestly do not mean this rudely but I don't care if we have a problem. You expect this to be unlike every other forum, where no one can joke, jest, or dick around. Expressing opinion is not trolling. I understand you want this to be a growing encyclopedia for thirdgens and I have contributed to that on a daily basis. But you will have to get used to me.

SBCsonoma91

Haha what! There is a section of my town called Harewood and it is basically our version of "the hood". third gen birds and camaros are referred to as either "Harewood Hotrods" or the more commonly heard, "****** Mobile" hahah

cuisinartvette

Stock 305 runs a 13.8 my ***. not even with a 100mph tailwind


Good thing dreams are for free right?

Keep playing with those tiny motors, the rest of us learned that lesson a long time ago.

Guest

Haha i know I was joking. I'm a 350 guy.

Guest

....lies....

Guest

Hahaha ask some of the V6 guys. I flame them all them time.

majobis

iTrader: (3)

12 pages of nonsense.

Guest

Hell yeah

mmorley1024

I once had a 305 that could fly way up in the sky with a yellow submarine and then i woke up, I think this guy should do the same.

88FormulaF_Bomb

iTrader: (1)

20$ says that the OPs car runs 16.20


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Z28FAST1

LMAO!!! I don't blame the poor kid, I mean according to the internet, a 305 with a turbo can easily go 9's!!

Sojer

haven't been on this site in a while. Glad to see my IROC that I drive time to time yes I still own it. Do u guys I'm sorry kmcn47 have anything better to do than spred lies on selling my car or 5.3 swap. Don't your car leave bigger oil spills than BP. How about I give u my 305 short block so u can have a something to to beat off to. Do u dream of me at night, is your GF jealous because all u talk about is me and my old 305 I have a crate 355 now. And its a 6.0l swap comming. Man I wish this was utube I would be paid. How many of your friends seen this. Get a life

kmcn47

damn sojer, you got alot of hate.......question is....... u mad bro? trolololololol, an lq4 realllllllly https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ap-stupid.html
you know stupid cheap = just plain stupid, if your going to attempt it, atleast attempt it right, guess you never got taught that being a "state cert mechanic workin down at belle tire" after your last engine build i dont expect much https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-300-hp-2.html. make the money for that engine form your last great idea https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...-own-hubs.html sojer i could keep making fun of you until the end of time, you just make it so damn easy, and no its not trolling, its me trying to help people on this site not believe a word you say, its for the greater good not anything against you, just your incompetence is all

kmcn47

is there a way to wipe it off the sites history completely?

Sojer

What will have to live for, I see u follow my post, this is not twitter. U work a min wage job at autozone 7.30 and hour didn't u say u part time too. Now wonder your car is still stock worn out 305 u can't afford to do anything to it. I bet u DD your car don't u how many miles on 230k+. The thing is this is my posing and I only posted in here bout 15 time u did bout 150 times. I'm in my IROC right now bout to pick up a girl I'm out side her house and I knew u will be up posting on here. Like I tolded u b4 everything this way is better than u and can kick your butt. I'm not mad have no reason to I have a faster car than u a better job than u. I'm winning oh and I'm bout to get some dam dawg I'm not making fun of u its all true I feel bad for you I bet u don't have a GF

J91

Winning! Oh,oh....

cuisinartvette

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You know hes smacking the pony to some chick pic off of Craigslist