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Old 04-21-2012, 09:29 PM
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

what heads and cam do u have?
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

At the time it was Trickflow 195's with 1.5 roller rockers, Crane Powermax 2032, Accel Superram, 24lb injectors, LsRacing Tune, 700r4 with Edge 2900rpm stall, Exhaust...

Now that I think about it, I beat a different ls1 z28 from a 20-60 roll by a car and a half...

I doubt his HSR 305 with 113 heads is much of a race with an Ls1.

I haven't ran the new engine with anything yet, but it feels way stronger.

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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

My brother just got his 6.0 GTO dyno tuned today. It made 358 RWHP with JUST an intake untuned, and after the tune it put down 371 RWHP and 370 lbs ft torque. There was a 2000 WS6 there as well that made 315 RWHP with only a catback.

HSR 305 wouldn't have a prayer against an LSx car. End of story.
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i long to have a nice 300hp ls1 in my beloved thundergutts yes, thats its name, or even an l99 for those of you who know what that is
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L99 is a 94-96 caprise engine
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L99 is a 94-96 caprise engine
Indeed, a 4.3L LT1 Engine essentially. A very unimpressive engine.
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im not about power
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I'm thinking (hoping praying) if I get the 3.70 9bolt 13.4 with my 3.27 round 13.7. But I won't beat any1 I can't get it to start it just does this
http://static.photobucket.com/player...8-15-30-37.mp4
LOL, any more ghetto rigging you can show us in the video?? Your timing is off mr. super racer.

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I havent been on here in awhile. Looks like ive been missing out. I read up until page 4 and wanted to bang my head into the ground. The part about comparing a 305 to a terminator did give me a good laugh though.

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Thanks its started bout 45° off it was just a bit more tuning and I'm done see u at crete, I'LL 24-25
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everyone take cameras to thirdgenfest i wont be there but need to see this car haha
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everyone take cameras to thirdgenfest i wont be there but need to see this car haha
What's your deal my car is better than yours in every way as a rollor my car is worth more than yours u don't have a leg to stand on or a pot to **** in your car won't make it to there andu still talk crap we have the same size motor I would come down there but your car is not worth racing. What have u done to your car well stfu everything this way would kick your but including me. Back off u minimum wage parts slanger 7.30 hr.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

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What's your deal my car is better than yours in every way as a rollor my car is worth more than yours u don't have a leg to stand on or a pot to **** in your car won't make it to there andu still talk crap we have the same size motor I would come down there but your car is not worth racing. What have u done to your car well stfu everything this way would kick your but including me. Back off u minimum wage parts slanger 7.30 hr.
Same size motor doesn't mean **** and the value of your roller doesn't mean **** I know $5000 cars that would wipe the floor with your car. Stop talking trash and take your insults elsewhere. Your car will never run 10's or even 12's because the 700R4 has repulsive gearing.

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wow u mad bro? guess the troll got trolled for the record i never dissed your car, only the false information you were presenting, there's no way your car beat ls1 cars especially not an ls2 gto just admit you were lieing and we'll forgive you no need to fight a losing battle to the death. we all know your full of **** man, sure you car probably is faster then my STOCK l69 camaro but i'd rather have a nice running car then the fastest car that YOU cant even get running right https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-no-start.html i can go outside right now start mine up and drive down the street can you?
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Yeah really, take that ghetto detroit bullshit somewhere else youngster and get some damn grammar lessons already. Talking smack with poor grammar tends to make you even less credible.
Let's face facts, we all know how to do math and it isn't hard to calculate that you stand no chance in hell of beating half the crap your talking about. Let's also look at the ghetto rigging done on your car and the fact you didn't know enough to get it running (your welcome BTW), then you expect us to believe you can tune it right and make it run as fast as you say?
My friend has an LS2 GTO, completely stock except catback and it runs a 13.6 which was just found out last Saturday at the track. I HIGHLY doubt you'll see a time like that in your car. Now to your credit, it is possible the person you raced couldn't drive, because my friend did let some of her friends run it down the track and they were all pulling 14's.
I mean come on, I raced a new Malibu a few days ago that tried to run from me and had a hard time reeling him in and I'm actually running the times you claim to be (about 13.6-.8), yet you expect us to believe your beating up LS motored cars with a stock 305 with just a gutted airbox and filter??? Seriously dude, that was a 15 second car before you added the performance parts you have now and I know it, 100% fact. You don't have a magic motor, your not a race car driver, and you have little knowledge of the subject obviously because you wouldn't make such claims on a site like this if you did.
Here's some facts for ya: https://www.thirdgen.org/1987-chevy-camaro
Yep, you have 190 HP and beat LS cars, although the LS2 makes almost twice as much power at the wheels as you make at the motor!
Here's some more, granted it is for the GTA, but it illustates my point: http://gtasourcepage.com/perfdata.html
Yep, an 87 GTA with the 350 which has 20 more HP and more torque than you only runs a 15.35 in the 1/4. I rest my case.
If ya want to come on over and race kmcn47 to make yourself feel better then go ahead, but I am only 40 minutes from him and I got dibs on winner.
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Wow, I sooo wish I wasn't getting married on the sat of thirdgen fest....
I could use a good laugh, been awhile.

What the heck is wrong with the starter in the vid!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
If the wire routing police doesn't make a visit to that engine compartment, the fire department sure will be.
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What are u talking bout my car was never stock when I got it. But this going no where. If I beat a car with a bad driver that's not my fault. I droped dizzy in wrong ok its right now just have to adjust the valve lash and adjust the timing. Its my first sbc by myself. My car is at work with me so I don't have much time to work on it. I'm sorry if I upset y'all with my TRUE clames when y'all go to heaven ask GOD. I love my 3rd gen like most of y'all love yours, I will only post facts (track times vid and slips, dyno vid and sheets, w8, and street races). See y'all there or on the tube. kmcn47 I'm sorry I was out of line. I can only wish I had those races on vid, but I dont. I have said in the past I must raced bad drivers. The whole thing was a shock, I too was a non beleaver in the 305. I raced these cars knowing I was gonna loose but how bad. Win or loose I always get a thumbs up after the race. 1 last thing when u hear 305 don't let slow come to mind cuz I did the same to a honda, he came back and beat me (turbo nos). Drive safe and respect all cars.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Sojer
I droped dizzy in wrong...
Told you that weeks ago in your build thread...
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Now see, this is where proper grammar and intelligence when posting would help. In your first post all you mention is a gutted air box and K&N's, it's not until post number 10 that you said everything you had done. Trying to read your posts is confusing and time consuming and is probably half the reason everyone is arguing with you. Do us all and yourself a favor and slow down and read it to yourself a time or two when done typing it before posting it and make corrections where needed, that way we can all actually read it and know wtf your talking about.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Indeed, a 4.3L LT1 Engine essentially. A very unimpressive engine.
it's also the engine in a new auto camaro.
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it's also the engine in a new auto camaro.
IDK why chevy uses the same engine code on different engines. IE, in the 70's, there was an LS6 and LT1 and then they used the same engine name to describe the newer style engine in the 4th gens. Dumb if you ask me. I was so confused until I actually found out that these were the names of the 70's counterparts as well.
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New info. I was talking to a buddy of mine and I was setting up some races. The spot I picked he said it was too short I disagreed. So I looked it up on the map it was 3 blocks ( long way) bout 1/2 a mile. I looked up the udal usual spots the 1s I raced these cars on and it was only 1 block some alittle over some shorter. Like I said in november I never been on a track. the races I won on was just torque races. So I have did longer runs like my buddy LS2 swapped 98 WS6 and he have vid proof of him running 12.8. He kicked my but he ran me down no matter what he won. My 60ft is better that's it. I have vid of that too. That was my old set up not now and he wrecked the WS6.
I didn't know sorry. And yes I will be in Crete ready to race
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...a LS2 swapped 4thgen running 12.80's? FAIL
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...a LS2 swapped 4thgen running 12.80's? FAIL
I thought it was a slight modded LS1 so he sent me a pic of the cast of LS2 I was not there and don't think it is. He is not real close friend just some 1 I bought my trunk latch from and raced a few times I will get the youtube link of his track time and my but beating lol he said it was untuned

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New info. I was talking to a buddy of mine and I was setting up some races. The spot I picked he said it was too short I disagreed. So I looked it up on the map it was 3 blocks ( long way) bout 1/2 a mile. I looked up the udal usual spots the 1s I raced these cars on and it was only 1 block some alittle over some shorter. Like I said in november I never been on a track. the races I won on was just torque races. So I have did longer runs like my buddy LS2 swapped 98 WS6 and he have vid proof of him running 12.8. He kicked my but he ran me down no matter what he won. My 60ft is better that's it. I have vid of that too. That was my old set up not now and he wrecked the WS6.
I didn't know sorry. And yes I will be in Crete ready to race
Oh dear god...

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New info. I was talking to a buddy of mine and I was setting up some races. The spot I picked he said it was too short I disagreed. So I looked it up on the map it was 3 blocks ( long way) bout 1/2 a mile. I looked up the udal usual spots the 1s I raced these cars on and it was only 1 block some alittle over some shorter. Like I said in november I never been on a track. the races I won on was just torque races. So I have did longer runs like my buddy LS2 swapped 98 WS6 and he have vid proof of him running 12.8. He kicked my but he ran me down no matter what he won. My 60ft is better that's it. I have vid of that too. That was my old set up not now and he wrecked the WS6.
I didn't know sorry. And yes I will be in Crete ready to race
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i can believe u man. i also have a LB9 in my 5 speed iroc and the only mods ive done to the car is a full tune up (cap, rotor, plugs, wires, fuel filter, k&n drop ins, and pcv valve) stock cat into a flowmaster catback, on stock radials i ran 14.4 @96 with a crappy launch. if i had drag radials with a more aggressive launch, i know i couldve gotten it down to a high 13. so i can just imagine how ur cars runs with heads and intake. these little motors never cease to amaze me especially when we can beat cars that we think we would lose to.
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i ****in love the **** out of this ****in thread
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on stock radials i ran 14.4
... from the 1/8th mile mark to the 1/4 mile mark.
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... from the 1/8th mile mark to the 1/4 mile mark.
wouldn't that be an 1/8th mile?
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wouldn't that be an 1/8th mile?
Exactly
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Originally Posted by kmcn47
wouldn't that be an 1/8th mile?
No. When we race, we normally measure how much mph we pick up from the 1/8th mile to the 1/4 mile. I normally see a 20-mph pickup. I was teasing him by implying that his 305 runs 14 seconds from the 1/8th mile to the 1/4 mile (not from the starting line)...

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Exactly
You obviously didn't get the joke either lol...
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so........................how was thirdgenfest everyone?
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so........................how was thirdgenfest everyone?
I was just sitting here wondering the same thing.
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I didn't go my car not running right it ran with the hsr, put the tpi back on it won't run. So I work on it evey now and than looking for a new daily driver. What do it matter y'all wanna see me fail anyway.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

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I didn't go my car not running right it ran with the hsr, put the tpi back on it won't run. So I work on it evey now and than looking for a new daily driver. What do it matter y'all wanna see me fail anyway.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:22 PM
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Sojer
I didn't go my car not running right it ran with the hsr, put the tpi back on it won't run. So I work on it evey now and than looking for a new daily driver. What do it matter y'all wanna see me fail anyway.
I killed the LT1 in my GTA the weekend before TGF at a track rental.

I was there in the G6, and I would have lined up with the G6.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Wow how in the world did I miss this thread? So I totally wasted my money on a lsx 6.0. I'm going to the junk yard right now to get my hands on a 305!! All you guys are stupid I believe every kill this guy claims.



Originally Posted by Sojer
I have a LB9 and I have raced it against cars that on paper should have lost. My car is not stock I have a gutted air box and K&N drop ins no tune I never dynoed or tracked my car so I don't know what it do in a 1/4 mile but I street race yeah yeah. We mark of a 1/4 marker in the street we race at designated spots. And I raced and won against 2 at the same time same color 2011 charger R/T, 95 cobra 5spd, 02 Mustang GT 5spd flow master muffler, stock ls1 fbodies, 93 t56 lt, 1lt camaro with lt4 intake no headers, all these cars was stock I also raced my friend who has a 98 ws6 with ls2 t56 headers and other mods g a vid on youtube he ran a 12.8 at Milan drag way in Milan, MI and he had to run me down it would been close he beat me but its was by a car most other cars was by a car or more ls1 was like a half a car Hemi was by 2 or 3 cars I have a vid on youtube look up 1987 IROC-Z vs 93 Z28 or my name sojer6mile. I tired of ppl bashing me sayin u can't dream of beating those cars. I know my car w8s 34 00lb with 2 12s 1/2 tank and the car was running 3560 with me in it. I have read about ppl modding their 305 and running high to mid 14s and those cars runnin in th 13s I would say my car is a mid 13 like 13.4 or higher 13.6. I don't know why I beat these ppl they did not let me win I did not know most of them I know the lt1/1t4 person 1 ls1 stock ta 02 stang, and 98 ws6. Trust me I talk crap when I win so ppl don wanna loose to me an when I say its a 305 the cobra guy said he didn't wanna race me he said if it was a 350 I would be worth racing I told him my car was not stock, his boy talked him to doing so and got his *** kicked. I have no reason to lie I know I don't have the fastest car I raced a new ZR1 on a roll kicked my *** so bad. The next week I say the cobra he said I lied him and his boy they said I have spray or 350 I popped the hood and said take a look. I'm from the hood and keepin it real is a must for us
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

I cant believe people are still trying to interpret his version of the English language. This thread is still alive?
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Yeah, I can't honestly say that I understand the title. Should it say: "305 LB9 are slow? Bull!" Or does "slow bull" have another meaning which I am not aware of?
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

the 350 version of this is locked, why not this one?
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Sojer
I didn't go my car not running right it ran with the hsr, put the tpi back on it won't run. So I work on it evey now and than looking for a new daily driver. What do it matter y'all wanna see me fail anyway.
Must have blown it with all that HP it was cranking out...
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by kmcn47
the 350 version of this is locked, why not this one?
they was talking about his dead wife, and other non related stuff. i stayed on topic for the most part. even thoe yall disagree with me, i broke no rules, and most off the comments was by other ppl talking about other stuff. this thread was high jacked a few times. this is how we talk in detroit, mi. on mifbody nobody says i talk funny lol.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Sojer
they was talking about his dead wife, and other non related stuff. i stayed on topic for the most part. even thoe yall disagree with me, i broke no rules, and most off the comments was by other ppl talking about other stuff. this thread was high jacked a few times. this is how we talk in detroit, mi. on mifbody nobody says i talk funny lol.
I think you should review the rules while looking at some of your previous posts...as well as a dictionary.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by Sojer
I'm thinking (hoping praying) if I get the 3.70 9bolt 13.4 with my 3.27 round 13.7. But I won't beat any1 I can't get it to start it just does this
http://static.photobucket.com/player...8-15-30-37.mp4
That explains it.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Originally Posted by _Nick_
That explains it.
i would rather have the 327 than the 370
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i would rather have the 327 than the 370
Why? 3.70 is a great rear gear. I don't know of much people that would prefer the lower 3.27 over a 3.70.
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Re: 305 LB9 are slow bull

Sojer , if you went on ls1tech and told the same fairytale you told here , they would have a field day on you. These guys are being kind right now. A 305 beat an LS1? I just spit Pepsi all over my monitor over this one.


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