MatthewH

Since the rice guys usually like to shoot thier mouths off about how crappy American cars are, and how superior Japanese engineering is I want to know how much shooting off I can do. I know that my car will smoke any ***** off the line-but what about on the highway when he can tach it up to 6500 rpm and I'm turning at 4500 about to redline?

My girlfriend has a Nissan Sentra and it can't get out of it's own way from a dead stop, but when you're crusing at 65 in drive you can get to 85 in real hurry when you mash it. I think that's one thing that some lesser informed V8 afficionados forget to consider-most of us street guys make power down in the 4000's and the ricers are hitting it in the 6000's...So what's my best option? Nitrous?

Later,

Matthew C. Hall

maksik7

I don't know what engine you're running but my 86 TA 305 TPI can still keep up with my friends Prelude pretty well even at 80mph. If you're running big gears that might be your problem.

JPrevost

Big gears aren't great for TPI setups unless you have a short runner design. The TPI is a long tube "tuned port" for low end street grunt. They made plenty of torque down low but they aren't fire breathers up top.
This is such a generic post I don't know what angle to start. Get a 6 speed and you'll fly up top. Imports have more tech but they are finding replacements for displacement. Detroit did it backwards and went with displacement. Either way you make power, just a different kind of power. Low end torque vs. high end hp. You can't win EVERY race. If you want more topend do a cam swap. This is where the pushrod engine is slowely becoming extinct on the street. There are DOHC cars with different length runners which take after the more exotic setups. The LS1 can still be made to make crazy hp, just look at the LeMains vettes (swing...sorry, boner just thinken about them). This is probably one of my dumbest reply's ever. Ranks up there with my latest cup holder install responce...."screws!"

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91 Red My website

QwkTrip

iTrader: (22)

Top speed is only partly rpm potential. Propoer gearing is far more important. It doesn't matter what rpm the power comes on just so you can access it when you need it (and that you actually have more potential beyond where you are). The fact is you have more Hp and a lot more torque then those little import cars and if you gear your vehicle properly you will walk from them at any speed. Keep in mind that weight is a deficit at speed too. You weigh more and it will take more power to make equal speed for a lighter car assuming that the aerodynamics of both vehicles are similar.

REVLIMIT

Oy!? My car can move on the freeway. I've smoked alot of import on the freeway. I've beat my friends turbo 91 Supra w/upgraded turbo, 89 CRX SI w/intake adn exhaust, 90 Civic SI w/ intake and exhaust, 96ish EX Civics, 90 N/A Supra, 99 Accord with exhuast, etc. The only imports that ever gave me rubs was a N/A 300ZX with mods and a highly modded GSR. Soon I"m racing my friends 89 CRX w/ EX motor. He wants to race me. So I"m up to beating another.

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Chris
91 RS 305 TBI
Eternal Rev

maksik7

How fast is you 305 TBI stock? It beat a modified Supra? I was under the impression those cars were faster then that

CWIROC

Personally stay American.Im beefing up my iroc from a 305 to 350. Will be a serious rice eater soon, but the day i ate my first ***** in my ws6(2000). i knew i would have this car forever. My rice victims are my buds Lex IS,lots of integras,2 300zx twinturbo,honda s2000, and some celicas.The only thing i havent raced that is a ***** is a supra. The only thing i ve raced that beat me is a vette, but only half a length. i m curently looking for a good cam for ram air. that should make up my car length.

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1990 IROC TPI305, MSD 6A, DYNOMAX MUFFLER, MEGASHIFTER, 160 THERMOSTAT, HYPERTECH FAN SWITCH, AND A BLASTER COIL. WITH MORE TO COME!
2000 WS6 and she needs no mods

Chaotic Firehawk

Write these URL's down,give them to the ricers and tell them to shove it Also good reading

http://members.home.net/crush/reality-check/ [VTEC Reality Check]

http://members.home.net/crush [Honda Vs. Mustang]

http://members.home.net/crush/reality-check/realit.ram [Radio show on VTEC,long download]

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/ [Asian talks against Honda and Acura]

http://civic.vtec.net/complaints/index.html [Honda Civic complaints]

http://integra.vtec.net/engine/repairs.html [Acura problems and repairs]

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/employee.html [American Honda employee]

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/unsatisfied.html [Unsatisfied Honda owner]

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/recall.html [Honda/Acura recalls]

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/complaints.html [Honda/Acura complaints]

Some random information.

For all who credit the great honda with having the advanced variable valve timing, and shun
domestics for being "primitive", I would like to introduce you to the XR-7755.
In 1943, Lycoming (they make airplane engines, and they're American) had a 7755 cu in
(yes, 127 L) engine that put out 5000hp. It had hemispherical combustion chambers,
overhead cams, turbosupercharging, and... (*GASP*!) variable valve timing for economy at
cruise.A link for nonbelievers [http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/xr-7755.html]

Ford has a patent on vvt technology in 1976 and toyota in 1977, hondas patents didn't come
around until the mid 80's. they were a bunch of biters, just like some of the honda owners.

Oh yeah, for all you hp/liter and overhead cam freaks, In 1964, Ford had a SOHC 427ci V8
putting out 656hp (that's 94 HP/l for you who care). It is still beleived by many a tuner
that the Cammer was actually underrated in its power.

Don't forget EFI--an option on the 1958 Chrysler 300C. How about ABS? It was an option (called
Sure Brake) on the 1974 Chrysler Imperial. Double-wishbone suspension? Try a 1964 Dart, Valiant,
or Barracuda.

Also, the McPherson strut suspension, used by such companies as Lotus, Porsche, and yes, even
Honda, was designed and patented by FORD.



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Chaotic Firehawk can be found wondering NEThirdgen.org and 3rdgen.org

"A musclecar, by definition, is a powerful and sporty vehicle that must be able to spin its tires at will. The Firebird Trans Am is capable of laying down twin black streaks of rubber several hundred feet long. We wanted to be sure it could, so we did it a half dozen times in the name of automotive science."-MotorTrend

Ace_Murdock

i made a booboo

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firbird

interesting