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Old 07-27-2011, 07:27 AM
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88 camaro vs 86 supra

I work with a punk rich kid who thinks just because he has a supra ( which is bone stock) he's the fastest kid on the streets, I drive an 88 sport coupe with the optional LO3 V8. All i have done is a high flow air filter (edelbrock) Flowmaster 2.25 cat back ( I know should be 3in) and kyb agx adjustable shocks in the *** end. Who do you guys think will be faster??????
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I owned a 1986.5 supra N/A with the 7MGE, it was rated at 200hp . There was also the turbo version 7MGTE rated at 230 hp high 13's. The turbo supra would take a stock L98 easy. The N/A regardless of horsepower have no torque what so ever! And if his car is a 1986 and not an 1986.5 then he would have the crappy 5MGE N/A rated at 166 hp with a 16.1 sec quarter mile. I guess it all depends on what version he has. Mind you these cars only had very little to no torque and were better top end. You would take the 1986 and it would come be very close if he has the 1986.5 N/A but you would def have him from the dig till at least 60. If he has the turbo version though, sadly its a no go...
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Btw he is so very far from fast if its a stock normally aspirated supra, its not even funny! Especially if its a 1986 and not a 1986.5. it would say it right on his serpentine cover what engine it has.
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I dont know which engine it is all i know is the car is a 2.8 and manual tranny but thanks for the info
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2.8L is the 5MGE, slow as ****! He would d be lucky to get high 16's low 17's in that thing!!!
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2.8L is the 5MGE, slow as ****! He would d be lucky to get high 16's low 17's in that thing!!!
x2 on that the 5m is garbage just go stomp on him and hope his rich *** family does not let him do an engine swap.
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

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I owned a 1986.5 supra N/A with the 7MGE, it was rated at 200hp . There was also the turbo version 7MGTE rated at 230 hp high 13's. The turbo supra would take a stock L98 easy. The N/A regardless of horsepower have no torque what so ever! And if his car is a 1986 and not an 1986.5 then he would have the crappy 5MGE N/A rated at 166 hp with a 16.1 sec quarter mile. I guess it all depends on what version he has. Mind you these cars only had very little to no torque and were better top end. You would take the 1986 and it would come be very close if he has the 1986.5 N/A but you would def have him from the dig till at least 60. If he has the turbo version though, sadly its a no go...
I've raced several of the locals with 7MGTEs not impressed, 1JZ or nothing. Infact... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpTMRRaSAM
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I've raced several of the locals with 7MGTEs not impressed, 1JZ or nothing. Infact... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpTMRRaSAM
They really aren't exactly what you would think of when imagining a "turbocharged supra", but on 1/4 mile times they would take a stock L98 and murder an LO3. But in the 1/8th and from the dig, we have them all day long.
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

Lol ive got a kid like that here with a 97 Firebird. Its got a warn out 5.7 L and a "custom" ram air intake. Hes been topping me since as long as i can remember. But the thing is,theres always gonna be kids like that. Anyone will tell you, all teenagers are little bastards. Everyone tries to be better than someone else. Sure this kid you know has a show-offy Supra,but whats it gonna matter when youre an adult? Its high school man. He'll be showed up some day and feel like a total piece of crap. And besides,id WAY rather have a Camaro than a Supra any day. Just let people talk sh*t all they want and let this kid show off,but he'll be the one struggling with life because he was so pampered and we'll be the ones making it big. We can actually work on our own cars Oh and i also forgot to mention, another friend of mine has an 85 Vette that he CLAIMED to have a 385 Lingenfelter. I looked at it,its just a 350. I gave him a ride in my car and he was like IT FEELS STRONGER THAN THE VETTE DOES! Thats what hard work and dedication to a car gets you. Heres the firebird and the Vette



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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

supra turbo (single turbo) were 15-16 second cars.I would not waste the gas. Take that stuff to the track if anything.

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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

Hey guys, I'm new to thirdgen....help me out, how do I start a new thread?
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@ RedRainer,go to the message boards and go to the Topic you want to post something in, like Auto Detailing for example. Click on Auto Detailing,and at the top left it will say "new thread"
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Thanks Dylan.
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

Ive been with my buddy at the track and witnessed his stock 1987 7MGTE supra Turbo run high 13's low 14's and hes not even an experienced driver. They don't run in the 16 or 17 range and no 198 don't take them so easily....
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

My 87 non supra was in the 15-16 range not the turbos. Granted I'm not impressed by them, but they are not 16 sec cars at 230hp and great suspension and rpm range.
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Ran the two cars in car test simulator looks like a close race with a manual trans supra coming out on top. Over L03 with a 700R4 and a 2.73 rear end.
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Ran the two cars in car test simulator looks like a close race with a manual trans supra coming out on top. Over L03 with a 700R4 and a 2.73 rear end.
Thats what i mean. I had a Nissan Turbo Z years ago and it was faster than it's rival 80s' Supra and would not touch my L98 car
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Late 80's Supra's weighed in more than a Caddilac Eldarado.LOL Almost 4k lbs.
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Late 80's Supra's weighed in more than a Caddilac Eldarado.LOL Almost 4k lbs.
1986-1992
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1,537 kg (3,389 lb) (manual)
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1986-1992
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1,537 kg (3,389 lb) (manual)
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Thirdgen's are much lighter.

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no, they were more like 3850. Average thirdgen is between 3200-3400

Could be I just grabbed the numbers I found only first. On the supra forums a few guys weighed them here are some numbers seems like a lot of different option can make a huge difference. I bet the turbo gain close to 100lbs just in pipe. Without going crazy in posting lotsa of stuff looks like depending ojn options some guys are about 3300 other about 3800. Some just seem to have a sunroof difference and it is about 100 lbs. Either way not a light weight car.
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Ive been with my buddy at the track and witnessed his stock 1987 7MGTE supra Turbo run high 13's low 14's and hes not even an experienced driver. They don't run in the 16 or 17 range and no 198 don't take them so easily....
What did it trap?

Late model L98's in good condition should do low 14's bone stock. (91-92's.) Few exhaust mods/air filter L98 can trap near 98-100 if the gear is 3.23-3.42. I know my 89 went 100mph in cold air, 96-97 in ok air with just full exhaust/air filter box mod. Bone stock they were 95mph machines.
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

Originally Posted by ninetyone
Late 80's Supra's weighed in more than a Caddilac Eldarado.LOL Almost 4k lbs.
Yep the Supra in the Video fully loaded with two subs was almost 3800lbs, my 91 Eldorado came in at 3480

Originally Posted by midias
1986-1992
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1,537 kg (3,389 lb) (manual)
1,595 kg (3,516 lb) (automatic)
Where'd you get these numbers from? Again the car in my video with a fully stipped interior weighed 3300lb.


Originally Posted by ninetyone
Thats what i mean. I had a Nissan Turbo Z years ago and it was faster than it's rival 80s' Supra and would not touch my L98 car
I have a friend with a Z31 Turbo, none of the local 7M guys could touch it only 1JZs and even then after a few mods it had no problem with them.

Anyone who actually watched my video, the Supra had FMIC, HKS Magic mushroom, 3" turboback with no cat and is a 5 speed. My CVPI is all stock except for a 2 1/2 H-pipe cat back...
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

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Thirdgen's are much lighter.
Pretty sure third gens weigh around the same. Maybe more depending on the options.
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Re: 88 camaro vs 86 supra

My third gen really is much lighter, probably under 2,000 pounds, no joke.





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What did it trap?

Late model L98's in good condition should do low 14's bone stock. (91-92's.) Few exhaust mods/air filter L98 can trap near 98-100 if the gear is 3.23-3.42. I know my 89 went 100mph in cold air, 96-97 in ok air with just full exhaust/air filter box mod. Bone stock they were 95mph machines.
It trapped about the same 96. I'm sure a healthy L98 with exhaust and air would take an 87-89 turbo supra, I'm just saying a stock L98 vs a stock turbo version supra would be close and the supra would most likely lose, but def not get murdered. And the Lo3 doesn't stand a chance stock... Either way I would take my maro over my old supra any day. The torque and looks of a third gen make my old supra very undesirable!!!
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Thirdgen has better looks!

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