Z28FAST1

Well, looks like the old Z28 got a chance to run one of these new 5.0's.

Z28 gets tailgated by a car with jeep style center floodlights, switched lanes to let the speeding car through when the 5.0 badge was spotted. Impulse over reason leads to dropping the gear from 4th to 3rd in an attempt to pace the speeder. 5.0 hears the slight growl of the exhaust and immediately drops the hammer & stomps the pedal while still about a car ahead. Z28 contemplates dropping to 2nd but decides to lug 3rd gear. From about 4,000rpm-6,300rpm the Z28 slingshots past the 5.0 leaving it 3-4 cars behind before shutting down.

5.0 wants a rematch but Z28 is not interested. 5.0 owner lowers the window and says "Yeah it's still a Chevy(or something to that effect), it was smoking a little." Z28 congratulates the driver on a nice looking ride. As the 5.0 leaves, it looks like the 5.0 is leaking something.......oh wait its just Ford tears LMAO!!!!!

SiCkRs

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Lol damn you go up against some pretty quick cars how fast is your z28? I seen those new 5.0 are quick compared to the ones before.

Z28FAST1

400+ rwhp in a 3300lbs car, I'm kinda picking on these heavier cars with less power. But its just too fun to see the look on their face.

I went 12.4@114 in 3000+ DA my first time at the track. I should run 11's, we'll see in a few months.

Also, my brother with a stock LS1 in his Iroc gave me a a way closer run than this new 5.0 and would mop the floor against a new 5.0.

v10viper04

Definitely nice to see a 5.0 getting taken down. Maybe it'll shut those Mustang guys up. The new 5.0 is all hype I feel....

itsMikey

amng04

400+ rwhp in a 3300lbs car only trapping 114???

Z28FAST1

Tell me about it To my defense it was my first time at the track and I was trying to dial it in @ 90+ degree weather and bad air.

1st pass: 12.8@110
2nd pass: 12.6@112
3rd pass: 12.4@114
4th pass: I had a better 330ft time but missed 3rd gear

Just for comparison:

550rwhp 2010 CTSV was running 11.8@118
My buddies 360rwhp 1998 Camaro running 12.6@110mph.

Wonder what I would run at sea level?

SiCkRs

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Damn thats what i want on mycar hopefully one day ill get there

ShiftyCapone

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Uh...I wouldn't say they were all hype. They are 3500 lbs and make around 390 at the wheels stock. Basically the same power as an LS3 with a lot less displacement. They are for the most part faster than a new SS as well. 12.4 is very fast, but that mustang is capable of running similar times (12.8 at 111mph and dyno 370 to 380rwhp), with a warranty. It almost sounds like it was a re badged earlier model that you ran (the 3 valve motors). I don't think you can get those big lights on the newer stangs and Ford's quality is light years ahead of where it was years ago. If it was smoking, it wasn't because of a cliche ford joke.

v10viper04

I still feel they are a hype. If there was a LS3 using variable valve timing and having extremely high flowing heads from the factory it would make a lot of power too. I would choose more displacement over a smaller engine with maybe a little more hp factory. Ford is finally catching up to GM and all the ford fanboys are making such a big deal about it... I still have yet to see what these new 5.0's modded are capable of as far as HP goes.....

MidnightBlue07

Definitely Nice Kill, you have a strong running Z28 man, Its kinda hard to tell whether the car was a 10" or 11" since there virtually identical, unless your right up close to the car, but either way. Nice Job.

By As Shifty said, and these cars are capable of running 12.7 - 12.8 at 110+ mph and dyno around 370 - 380 rwhp right off the showroom floor.

And No the car is not ALL hype, but you'll always get that whenever a brand new car comes out regardless, but the fact is the 5.0 is not just some car to be taken with a grain of salt.

JPC Racing was the first to have a 2011 Mustang GT 5.0
ran a 10.96@125 MPH Pass with just some Bogart Racing Wheels with MT ET Slicks and M&H Dot Front Runners with a X pipe, 4.56 gears, and a ZEX Nitrous kit 100 shot. And guys from Evolution and Lethal Performance have soon followed.

And some regular 5.0s with just an Intake & Tune have seen times around 12.30 - 11.80s @115+ and Dyno around over 400whp and above.

But nevertheless, sweet run..

v10viper04

Don't forget weight reduction, custom made chassis parts, not to mention over 4 hours on the dyno... That's why it's all hype.. One site says DR's and intake and it runs 10's! Then another site watching the same build shows a whole list... That's why all the Ford guys are going nuts, bad information going around... Any car can be made fast with all those parts...

MidnightBlue07

Very, True, you get alot of misinform stats from sites and videos and it can show from everything to nothing and different variables and makes for confusion and skeptics.

Granted I don't own one as I have its slighy older brother version (05 GT) but have a couple friends at my work and other places that have them, and I will say the car is a nice platform, weather you want to go the route of Track time or just have a nice street car, either way, I don't think it will hurt anyone.

v10viper04

MidnightBlue07

But I have my 86 Irocz also so It doesn't really matter to me since I have both

Z28FAST1

This was in the rear view mirror, it has the big lights in the middle and a nice flashy 5.0 badge that's hard to miss.



Most reputable shops have them dynoing 360-370rwhp on average and yes they are marginally faster than a 2010 SS.

Really, you are talking about warranty on tgo…

I want to see a stock 5.0 trap 114mph in 3000 DA with 90 degree weather, it’ll probably trap 108-109 at my track(California Speedway).

Just for kicks, my car did quiet well against my buddies C6Z06 which make about 450rwhp and weighs 3300 lbs. From 50-130 the Z28 was about a full car behind. Maybe the C6Z06 was also re-badged lmao.

http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nLS1vC6Z06.mp4

360rwhp in a 3500 lbs car vs. 410-415is rwhp in a 3300 lbs, the difference is 50 rwhp and 200 lbs to the Z28's advantage

Puppy kicking if you ask me.

Z28FAST1

I actually like them but the reason I think they are hyped is because they are doing what the GM's pony car did 10 years ago.

There are 4th gen LS1's that ran 12's showroom stock, low 12's on drags, and 11's on bolt-ons just like the new 5.0.

I think it would be interesting to run into a full bolt-on 5.0 but I honestly think they're going to need a little more than bolt-ons to edge out a lighter 3rd gen with a modded LS1. Bad things is I know heads and cams(2 or 4?) are going to be extremely pricey!!!!

v10viper04

ShiftyCapone

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Your car is a monster 100%, and I would rather have an LSX 3rd gen than a new mustang. My intention is to understadn why other posters in this thread call that car "hyped". Any 12 second car for 30K is not hype.

And there is variable valve timming on the LS3. Its the L99 and comes in the auto cars. As for High Flowing LS3 heads? Uhm....The LS3/L92 castings are keeing people at AFR and Trick Flow up at night.

MidnightBlue07

Yes, I almost forgot that you do have an LSX in your car, so That combo right there is perfect with a 3rd Gen, an easy 11 second ride and yours is modded so that itself is outstanding.

Thats what I wanted to to with my Z28, but didn't have the money or resources at the time, so when another route with another car.

As why ford took forever to raise the par on their cars in the last decade?, I honestly don't know, as that time I only had my Iroc-Z and was dealing with only Novas, & Camaros that wasn't even a thought of at the time.

A Bolt on 5.0 would be very interesting, as I said earlier, a Intake and Tune ( I'm not talking about a dyno tune necessarily) one will net it to the low/12 High/11 second range all day.

I will vouch that bolt ons, mainly internals like heads/ cams will be very pricey for the 5.0 and I know for experience as my SOHC 3V cams on my GT are twice as much as a regular push rod cam, so a 4V 5.0 with DOHC with be much more, but these engines are still infants so I would give it some time and see what they do later on.

Z28FAST1

Before doing my swap I juggled the thought of buying a low mileage 4th gen or a C5 but my dream was always to fix up a third gen so went this route. I figured I wouldn't have the money to have a monthly car payment and mod a car at the same time so I kept the 3rd gen and try to update with making an enjoyable daily driver.

Those new 5.0's have temporarily taking the pony car lead and the new BOSS is supposed to have C6 vettes worried!!!! I'm hoping GM puts the 2010 SS on a serious diet.

sailtexas186548

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yeah the new BOSS is a serious machine, it's road course times are very impressive as well as its acceleration. Ford is finally back in the game

I hope every auto maker puts all of their vehicles on a diet, it would solve so many issues including meeting emissions requirements

and good kill!

fly89gta

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Absolutely, well said. Some people just can't give credit where credit is due. The new 5.0 is a beast, it's a solid engine that responds well to mods. The 5.0 has responded to the simple bolt on mods just like the LS cars do. With that said, I'd still take the LS motors over the 5.0 any day but to call it hype is a bit of a stretch. But everyone has their own opinions.

Anyway, to the OP, good kill. I had a chance to race a 5.0 vert when they first hit this area. It was a fun race.

fly89gta

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The 12 second factory freaks were few and far between. A majority of LS1 Fbodies are/were 13.2-13.50 cars. It's still good but after a few dipped into the 12's stock everyone thought that was the norm. It's not...at least not around here with some of the best air and tracks in the country.

Z28FAST1

How'd you do against it and what kind of power of you putting down? I've always been curious to run a s/c TPI.

Hype, similar to the 5.0 hype that they all run low 12's and 11's on bolt-ons.

fly89gta

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It's a stock high mileage L98, you'd destroy me . I beat the GT though. He wasn't too happy.

I know people are all about the 5.0 but generally speaking they're 12 second cars stock, some have gone 12.7's but most times I've seen are in the 12.8x range with is faster than the LS14thgens and faster than the bloated pig and disgrace we call the 5thgens.

dspencer24

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have you seen the new 2012 camaro zl-1? def more money by about 10-12k but look at the specs

Z28FAST1

Yeah i like those but for the price tag I think I'll save up a little more and buy my dream car ZR1

fly89gta

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$60K is a far cry from $105K

I need to hit the lottery or sell crystal meth or something...I need $$$

Z28FAST1

I thought they were starting at $70k? In 2 years the used low mile ZR1's are going to sell for $80k, I hope I'm in a position to pick one up by then.

fly89gta

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The ZR1? Nah, they're 6 figure cars, you're thinking of the ZO6.

zraffz

Never the less the Zo6 is still a nasty car! Northen NJ's track is filled with them once and a while and the slowest one runs low 12's. Fastest one is a low low 9 second pump fuel car.

Z28FAST1

Nope I've been tracking the ZR1 since they were marked up $20k above the $120k MSRP. Nowdays they are going for $90k new and you can score a used one $80K. I've seen used C6 Z06's in the $45k range.


From corvetteforum.com

Street Lethal

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Yup, we're full of them here in New Jersey. Between Cartek, and when the Vette Doctors roll into town, they are just too brutal to even deal with. Just looking at their engines the wrong way seems to give them another couple of hundred horsepower lol. I wouldn't waste my money on a new ZR1 though, unless you want that type of materialistic attention, because for a fraction of that price you can have a vette that will annihilate it on the street. I always liked watching Mike's Corvette do just that when it would roll into e-town....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaTh9hrPLV0

fly89gta

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Oh OK, I thought said 80K new, I didn't realize the ZR1 dropped to around 90K new(I haven't been on Corvetteforum in a while), that makes them an even better bargain.

Z28FAST1

You have to be kidding me. Those Ferrari's, Porche's and Lambo's are also such a waste of money

ZR1 competes with high-end exotics from the factory with 100,000miles bumper-to-bumper warranty for a lot less.

Sure a base vette with some mods will beat it in the 1/4 but the ZR1 is proven to be the whole package... acceleration, handling, braking, looks, prestige, reliability etc.

You can build a pinto to beat a ZR1 in a 1/4 mile but at the end of the day your still driving a pinto wishing you had the ZR1

Street Lethal

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Umm, from a thirdgen.org perspective, they most certainly are....

.... and yet they still just can't get them to make me my pankcakes in the morning.

That is what the majority of the threads found in this section are based on, are they not?

Irrelevant, as that is what the aftermarket is for. People buy cheaper car's to modify them, as that is what this hobby is all about, built not bought, and to take pride in something that is theirs. The LT5 ZR1 was thought to be the very same thing in terms of "the whole package", and they were incredible cars I will give them that, but they were simply not feasible from a hot rodding standpoint. If you feel that the new ZR1 is that great, then I am very happy for you, but your on the wrong website though, lemme tell ya lol....

I guess some people just need an expensive car to get themselves laid, ehh....?

Z28FAST1

^^I guess different people have different goals in life, my motivation for finishing up school is to have a nice stable of car's including a ZR1. A lot of people start with 3rd gens and move on to newer platforms(4th, 5th gens or Corvettes), while others don't . My 3rd gen is going to be my dedicated beater/ full race car.