Rolled out of a car show and before getting onto a long freeway on ramp a riced out 350Z pulled behind me as I was going to make the left. I rolled up the ramp at a somewhat decent clip and entered the freeway at about 70 and stayed in the slow lane at that. The Z came up on me at about 80 in the next lane and dropped a gear and slow down next to me and then after a couple throttle blips he accelerated away and I somehow maintained composure and kept out of the throttle.
Few miles down the highway he gets caught up in some traffic in the fast lane and I roll by a couple lanes over. He juts out of that lane and I hear his dual 4” fart cans kick in again as he accelerates past. Next we get down to a long flat on the highway and the traffic is thin and he now slows down to wait for me. As soon as I heard his exhaust go again, I hammered it and in about 4 seconds I put 4+ cars on him and pulled into his lane. I was hoping for a turbo or supercharger kit to start making some whistle from under the buldging CF hood – all show and no go.

 

Even with superchargers and what not, those are turds, LOL.

 

Video or it didn't happen.

Nice kill, sucks he didn't put up more of a fight.

 

I'm not to impressed with them either. Even when I had the stock heads and cam I was able to put 3 or 4 cars on one from a dig. It was the Infinity version though. I had a thread about it a while back.

 

sounds like a nice kill sum time u just gota waste gas to put them in their place

 

You did that with a V6? Hmmm, something doesnt sound right.

 

I hope that's sarcasm.

 

Thanks for posting OP

 

too me it looks like he's got a turbo fbird so it very well could have

 

Yep. (check my sig)


We can all hope.

 

His V6 will spank your car and 90%+ of the 8 cylinder third gens.

 

love the turbo birds, i put the 350z's and G35's in there place every weekend in my 99 regal GS with easeee. Yes i also do it with a 6 cylinder, and it sounds o so right.

 

Someone educate this man.

I'll start off.

The Traditional TTA vs whatever video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUfWe1aRyE0

Buick 3.8L Turbo V6 > L98. Its a fact. There is a reason people fear the GN's You NEVER know just what you are running against. It could be stock, it could be 2 seconds quicker than stock and STILL idle and sound stock till it blows your doors off.

 

I was going to let it go until he posted back up. Maybe he was being sarcastic...didn't want to rip him until then.

 

wow very nice....the 3.8 gm series are pretty fast stock too....

 

Thanks. I think my car stock would have taken him as well - of course it was only stock for about 4 months of its' 22 yr existence.

 

My V6 took down a 350Z one night, seems nobody believed me though, glad to see I'm not the only one pleading my case for the V6 lol. Good job man, keep burnin em.

 

Thats because from a dig a 350z could skip 2nd in a drag race and still beat a 3.1L v6.

140hp vs 330hp? C'mon, there are limits to believability.

You can beat the driver, but car to car a stock 2.8 or 3.1L v6 can't touch a 350z.

I could pit my G6 GTP against a stock L98 and probably run dead even with one. But thats because its a similar weight and makes 240hp, nearly the same as the L98. The Manual 3.9L V6 GTPs are dyno'ing about 200-210 to the wheels.

 

Thirdgen89GTA, did I say anything about being stock? LOL it has some nice mods the previous owner did, it was still close, but I got the kill.

 

89GTA, didn't say stock, previous owner has it modded out. I got the kill, but it was close. This is the daily driver for fun, my '10 Camaro is the race car.

 

A 3.1 better have a "350 V8" mod to beat a 350Z.

Honestly unless you have some major mods done to your 3.1 you are not beating a 350Z if he was actually racing.

 

Modified it could. I'm going on the stock vs stock argument.

The major restrictions on these motors is not the displacement, or the block, but the heads, and intake. If you can either port the stockers, or convert to another set of heads with serious flow #'s then its easily possible to make that kind of power.

As an example. The heads on my 3.9L V6 in the GTP flow around 260cfm on the intake from some of the flow charts I've seen on http://60degreev6.com

Thats about 100cfm MORE than a stock L98 head flows, and more intune with the LS2 head flow ratings.

 

I raced a 350Z in Florida a few weeks ago after stopping for a fresh tune from pcmforless on my way to Orlando for vacation and totally walked him down the freeway from 65-120. I went after him because he was tailing some dude on a Harley and trying to race with him, so I was bored and kind of invited myself to their little party and did a flyby on them. After that, the Harley dropped back and disappeared and Mr. hotshit in his 350Z thought he'd come get some. He probably thought he couldn't lose to my old 1991 GTA in his way newer foreign sports car, but he found out differently real quick.
It was my first race against one and I was not impressed with it to say the least haha.

 

I would like to know what mods made up the 190hp diff.

 

Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust

 

No joke no BS my when I was in college I had a friend with a 1992 camaro RS auto 3.1L with a CAI, dynomax exhaust and light weight pulleys. I could take him with my 1988 Accord LX-i 5 speed 122hp 2.0L with CAI, headers and exhaust without any real effort.

 

I was in a 3.1 firebird one night with a friend and watched it get taught a lesson by a pizza boy in a corsica lol! I also raced a 2.8 5 spd. bird in my 87 Bonneville SE heads up and crushed him.
BUT, I'm not gonna talk **** because I've rode in a N/A 2.8 V6 85 fiero 2M6 that would probably smoke my GTA and it looked completely dead stock. The guy showed me the engine and told me it had 316 HP as verified by a dyno and that it was N/A! I looked it over and saw absolutely nothing aftermarket on it all! I didn't believe a word of it until we got in it and he took me for a ride and I'll tell ya what, that thing was ungodly fast!
He says it was some sort of experimental that only 3 were built of that had some sort of a crazy induction setup. I don't know how much was true, but I do know I rode in it and I had him give a buddy of mine a ride too and that thing was just WAY too powerful for what it was.

 

Just goes to show, you can build anything to make it quick, but at what expense? And as far as the 1 of 3 "expiramental" engines, I kind of find that to be a bit of a fish tale but hey I guess you never know. If a 3.1 V6 actually made 316 HP on the dyno I honestly don't know how you could keep it bone stock looking....especially the intake set up. That to me would seem like a HUGE restriction and would have to be modified to feed 316 HP. A fiero is def going to be a bit quicker than a 3.1 F body due to it's weight though.

 

I just ***-raped one on the way home from work tonight. His license plate was UR2SLO....yeeaaah.....wrong.

He got to see my custom license plate for a while.

 

This was a 2.8 which came stock in the Fiero then, and yes I thought the exact same thing about how the hell it could make that kind of power with a stock looking setup.
The Fiero V6 was not fast by any means in it's day. It ran in the 18's in the 1/4 mile in stock form last I recall reading. The one I rode in ran mid to low 13's easily at least and would have killed my first GTA (which we drove there in to meet the guy). The guy said he had a RAM clutch in it and that he had to change all the mounts every 6 months because of it having zero slip and so much traction (which it did)!

 

A 3.1L fiero should trap about 6-8mph faster than a 3.1L bird.

A 3.1L fiero making 316crank HP? I can easily see it. But not anywhere stock looking or sounding. This would involve either a headswap, heavily ported stock heads and intake, along with a cam.

316hp at the wheels with nitrous? If you wanna play with fire I'm sure it could be done. Forced induction? Several people have already done so on these boards with turbo builds.

GM made a 272hp naturally aspirated iron duke back in 1983 using off the shelf parts. However this was for the Super Duty program they had going.

I also don't believe GM would ever release a prototype engine in a Fiero production car. I'm sure a read through on several Fiero forums would support this. Its the same as the mythical L98/T5 combo that everyone swears GM actually put into production.

If anyone wants to see some special Fiero's I suggest watching this youtube video. LOTS of historical prototypes in here. Just listen to the INDY pace car that rolls by. HOLY crap is that thing cammin'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCf8dz6qQng

 

Best mod for a 350Z is a LSx swap...

 

The LSx is the ***** of the automotive world. That thing can be swapped into anything.

 

As an example. A 350z vs a L98 Thirdgen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAOjfrV3u4Q

The L98 takes him from a dig every time, but loses on the roll once.

 

Theres a kid by me that had a 6.0 GTO but totalled it. He bought a 350Z and put the entire drivetrain from his old GTO into the 350Z and added a HUGE 88mm turbocharger. I'm pretty sure the car goes low 10's in the 1/4. Thing is awesome! The sound it makes should not be coming from a 350Z lol.

 

Its silver right? Ive seen it on the pike a year ago. I heard the exhaust then i saw the car and was like...eyes and ears do not compute!!! Then he popped the hood. Very clean car and scary fast.

 

Yup, silver one. He's always on the pike. It was on the cover of one of the newer import tuner mags.....lol, must have broke those kids hearts to have seen a nice 350Z with an LSx under the hood!