musclecar70sfan

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Hey guys, who has killed a Subaru WRX with their thirdgen and what kind of set up are you running? I have a friend who's a huge WRX fan and thinks that they're the sh** and will kill any third gen regardless of what it has. He's a good friend but I just wanted to spite him on this one lol.

chevy boi

theres a reason the wrx has a huge following. they are fast cars, when i was still street racing i seen a wrx rip a z06 a new one to about 90 mph. the weakness they have is from a roll. as for a thirdgen you will need to have a car that can leave the line HARD!!! and have a good powerband.

in short
AWD is a bI*** to keep up with off the line

irock88

youll have to find a third gen thats faster than 13 sec in the quarter mile!
alot of third gens out there that can do it!

IROCThe5.7L

I have a l98. Afr heads. Cam. Hsr intake. 3.73s. And I murdered a wrx a few weeks ago. It atleast had exhaust. I'd guess that's all it had.

irock88

they run 13.5 quarters but most run between 13.9 and 15.9 depending on who is driving ,tires used etc.
Dont race for pinks you really dont want his car,as well if you are going to race take it to the track! Bet he wont go!

chevy boi

o0o i thought you where talking about a STI version. if its a n/a 5 speed go and race him. those things are really lacking horsepower

zachkuby87

stock wrx u can take sti u may have a little trouble with as those guys ^^^^ upthere said them fuc*ers leave the line hard i am actually good friends with a few subaru guys here in mn and wrx's take me off the line but i blw by around 40 and sti's same thing but i have a harder time catching them once or twice they held me off quite a while until my headlights start gettin brighter and they hit the brakes

musclecar70sfan

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Yeah I thought that it's hard to keep up with a WRX off the line considering it's AWD vs RWD but I'm assuming that once you hook up and it becomes a pure horsepower race, then a bolt-on L98 with maybe some port/polish can keep up or maybe even beat it, sort of like IROCThe5.7. Anybody take on an STI?

tpivette89

guys, there's no such thing as a N/A WRX. They're all turboed. If it's truly normally aspirated, then it's the base model Impreza and you have nothing to worry about

now then, the WRX is a mid - low 14 sec car with a good driver and a good launch. The STI is a low 13 sec car with the same assumptions

however, alot of these guys blow the launch because they don't want to side step their clutches when holding the rpms at a ridiculous level to get the crazy 60fts these cars are known for. I've seen plenty at the track cutting 2.0 60fts because of this. My old L98 Vette used to outlaunch them all the time with only a S10 converter and a set of DRs. With the right setup, RWD cars have no problem taking AWD cars out of the hole

spade

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and what kinda setup is that?

tpivette89

a stall converter, some sort of sticky tire (DRs or slicks), and some suspension mods (like LCAs, panhard rod, etc)

tpivette89

well, if it's not turboed, then it's just an Impreza. Again, all WRXs/STIs came factory turbocharged

I don't know what a regular Impreza runs in the 1/4. Don't really care as the WRXs and STIs are the only ones worth racing

oh, and if his car is N/A, then he has nowhere near 260hp. It's less than 200

spade

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wrx with out turbos are rated to 225 i believe....its a diferent motor that the turbocharged one...

tpivette89

one more time, there is no such thing as a non-turboed WRX. It's just a regular Impreza... maybe this kid stuck WRX badging on a Impreza, but there is no way you can get a N/A WRX

tpivette89

nearly every subaru has some sort of scooped hood. I know even the regular Impreza does. Do a search on any subaru forum for "N/A WRX" and see what you come up with

tpivette89

cool. Always good to be well informed of what you're up against

create a username on there, and ask if there ever was a factory non-turbo WRX, or if your friends car is just some badged up Impreza

budfreak1

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I work on Subarus for a living and know TONS of owners around the world of WRX's, STi's and SVX's just to name some. I have a friend that had a dead stock 07 WRX TR (back when they only had 227 HP) that ran 13.7 in the 1/4 as most of them do with a good driver and manual tranny. The STi can hit 13.2 out of the box with a good driver.
I'd say unless you can really hook off the line and have at least 300+ WHP, don't race for pinks or money.
just my 2 cents.

d00012

Why the 93 octane? Are you running a higher compression?

budfreak1

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It's probably because he has an ADS superchip which requires premium fuel.

d00012

Why would it require that? I thought compression/power adder was the determining factor for octane?

budfreak1

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Ignition timing is also a factor. When you advance the ignition over the stock settings like the ADS chip does, you need higher octane to prevent knock.

d00012

Oh ok, hadn't thought of that.

budfreak1

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Hahhaa, if it's unboosted then it is just a everyday impreza that runs high 15's-low 16's on a good day. You'd own his ***.

budfreak1

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Number 1: tell him to screw his stupid *** death on wheels crotch rocket. At least I stand a small chance of survivng a crash at 100 unlike him on his bike.
Number 2: If he really wants some, tell him I'll race him and rape his face in my Subaru SVX first which runs 14.9 and is the record holding N/A auto SVX in the 1/4 and has been for almost 4 years (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43743), then to rub it in I'll take my GTA out and really teach his *** a lesson when I make a 13 second pass against his 16 second one lol.
Number 3: Go out yourself and teach his *** a lesson at a stoplight and make it for $500 bucks and pinks. Make sure you check under the hood though first to make sure he isn't lying and packing a bottle or something.
Number 4: If he ever mouths off in front of people like that again, meet up with him after work and have a "talk" with him.

87WS6

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Sad to say but a true WRX/STI will take quite a bit of power to defeat on the street assuming the Subaru driver can drive decently at all.

Well it would need a ton of mods or a **** ton of boost to match even a C5 Z06. AWD is nice off the line but you can catch them and pass them in the 1/4 if you have a fast enough car. I did it all the time to the first gen WRX's when I had my Firehawk.

And a lot of them can't.

Well with heads and a cam, an HSR and 3.73's you probably have a fairly potent setup. A stock WRX could easily fall victim to the kind of HP and TQ you are making.

If you raced an actual WRX with a bone stock L98 car of any kind you'd lose. Period.



Agreed.

Orr89RocZ

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From a dig maybe, but roll its mostly a drivers race.You would need a good running L98 however, some are worn and dont run. Since L98 is automatic, just mash and go. If it was a good roll speed, you may get him.

When i had full bolt ons and HSR intake, I was dipping into the high 12's at 103-104 mph with my L98. WRX's with mods werent close. Took stage 2 to get close to those times/trap speeds in a WRX. Now on the street from a dig, I dont believe I ever raced one. I could launch my car decent on the street when cruising around on ET streets but street tires forget it. First gear was pretty much gone.

They have weak trannys and most dont want to risk a heavy launch at the track. My buddy blew his tranny in his car, but it had upgraded turbo/tune. Converted to a built STI tranny and it was suppose to hold more than standard WRX setup. He never pushed that car however, too scared to really see what it do on a launch.

Now when I had my 383 HSR motor and 400whp n/a, I never ran into a suby that could keep up. EVO's on the other hand could, there were a few fast ones at that time period but no real quick STI's around me. Once again they could get you on the street from a dig to a certain point, but once I got out of first gear and could hook up by 40mph, i took off like a rocket. It would handle most mild modded STI's but I never ran one, just going by the track times i see.

IrocZ'85

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My good friend has one of those and he loves modding it out for autocross. This is because it handles well and is great for that sort of sport, but isn't too much for speed...to each his own I s'pose.

But as far as 1/4 mile or racing from a dig, the imprezza would no doubt bow to you. Go race him lol.

budfreak1

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Only the 02-03 WRX had weak trannies (synchros), they fixed them up some in 2004 and they became more reliable. The 6 spd. out of the STi can take ALOT of power and abuse, it's a shame he never pushed it to find out.

Orr89RocZ

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yeah he had a bunch of money into that car. It had a fully built motor in it, a stage 3 or 4 type setup so it was capable of high hp. i never been in it nor raced it so I dont know how quick it really was. He babied it down the track to a high 12 second pass and was disappointed in it, so never went back. Had alot more in it if he drove it hard.

Thirdgen89GTA

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Subaru Imprezza = N/A
Subaru Imprezza WRX = Turbo
Subaru Imprezza WRX STi = faster turbo.

Basic story of the Subie.

gooseward_r6

Yeah if its a base impreza you wont have anything to worry about. The wrx is turbo charged and runs pretty well 14s. Sti runs 13s stock. My cousin has a sti and has a good amount of mods done to it. gt35r turbo, front mount intercooler, Turbo back 3'' exhaust and lots more. I think its pushing 10s in the 1/4. 11s for sure.

Stangski09

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Certain an L98 w/ bolt ons would lick an WRX, not an STI though. A few months ago I ran down a heavily modded 350Z (CAI ,Manifolds, Exhaust, Intake, Throttle Body, Pro Tune). So I figure that would equal what a 370Z would run. And I guarantee a stock 370Z would lick an WRX.
And when I get my Adjustable Panhard Bar, LCA Relocation Brackets, and LCAs installed; I should gain some more off the line seeing as I should be able to gain better traction instead of making the pavement scream!

IrocZ'85

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Hey thirdgen89gta, where in buffalo grove are you? I'm over here in unincorporated cook county, right near lake cook and waukegan, not too far. Do you know any good car shows I should go to this summer?

Thirdgen89GTA

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Near Lake Cook and 53.

There is Elmhurst "Cool Cars under the Stars" on wednesday.

Thursdays has Lukes in Carpentersville.

Both start early and end at about 8 or 9.

Lukes is more the street racer crowd, Elmhurst is a more traditional cruisein.

Still nothing like the old Fridays at McDonalds in Bloomingdale, there you could leave your car windows down, hood up and the only thing you MIGHT find is a flyer for another car show on your seat. I've yet to find another show like that.

fly89gta

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If it's a base Impreza don't bother unless you really want to make him look silly. I love running idiots like that.

zraffz

I'll race his bike for titles with my IROC
... as long as I can switch my spray plate out before we race.

Stangski09

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What your BBC put down w/o spray?

budfreak1

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He's an idiot, just race him and kill him quickly.
I must warn you though, my friend has an 08 impreza with an exhaust, intake and tune and it is definitely what I would call fast for what it is, so be weary once that is done if he does it because he might actually run with you.

fly89gta

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My buddy with a low 12 second STi is laughing at the 12mpg comment...this kid you're dealing with is completely clueless.

Guest

I agree about not bothering if its not a STI. Sure they can be quick, but may as well take out the top dog. I wanted to get some stickers with the Subaru emblem and stick them to my door for each one that fell and every one I raced... fell. Hard. I was running a stock 305 TPI with a Vortech. Only one ran what I would call close, and that was not even that close. I guess the really fast ones are garage queens. I even heard stories about a neighbor a few doors down who has a huge Subaru banner in his garage and loves his car so much he probably licks it clean every day, that didnt really think much of my car. I guess someone told him my car was pretty fast and he went on about all this go fast stuff on his and how fast it was. Found him one day and put another notch in my cap. *sigh*

At least they'll race. I lost count how many wimps in Corvettes I've come across. If you're not going to drive it, go buy a Civic.

Guest

Headers, and look at the avatar.

tpivette89

no way hell gain 45 from just exhaust and a tune on a N/A 4 banger. He'd be lucky to see half that. Still no threat to your L98. Tell him to quit making excuses and just race

BigBadGTA

Found this vid on youtube, might be useful..

WRX VS L98 GTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz509Ahn7XA

musclecar70sfan

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WOW the STOCK GTA killed him in the roll! And the WRX had mods!!! Nice!

BigBadGTA

Yeah judging from that video, once I get my muffler replaced, and give my car a tune up I wouldn't be affraid to have a go at a WRX. An STI is another story.

Thirdgen89GTA

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A surprising win from the GTA. Wonder if it was stock. Sounded stock. Then again, MY car sounds like stock, and looks stock except for the wheels and cat-back...But isn't.

EvilCartman

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Had that happen to me. Guy had a modded WRX and wanted to race me. Told him I'd only race him at the track and he agreed to it. Bugged him for about a year and a half about getting the car up to the track and he always had some excuse. He finally ended up selling the car before taking it to the track

musclecar70sfan

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He probably knew you'd destroy him with those numbers you have in your sig.

EvilCartman

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Meh, it was all for fun. Invited another guy up to run his car just to see what it would run and he came up with a great excuse. "My car isn't a drag car. This is my daily driver and if I'm ever going to run a car at a drag strip, it's going to be built just for that!" Ran into him the other day and now he wants to take a car up to the drag strip that is being built for road racing lol.

88TransAmGuy

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ive had my car for almost two weeks
been working on it
and
i raced my cousin.Hes got an 06 WRX with a cold air intake and 5 speed tranny and it has a turbo on it,pretty CRAZY COOL HUH!?!
Its even got a fart cannon!
So he bet me he could win
and yet
i won with my T/A,which is all stock. Cept i turned the timing to 2 advance
we did a quarter mile run on the backroads
and i won by 3 seconds