Originally Posted by Kevin Lee 487

Thats because Thirdgens are relatively cheap. A nice 4th gen will run you 8k+ but the 2nd gens are a sad excuse of slow in comparison to their engine sizes.

A nice thirdgen can be found for 4-5k depending on which model you choose. ( I think GTAs are the most expensive due to them being the flashiest ) and the majority of them have 5.0 V8s. So naturally, the driver will support what they think is their " crowd " and hate the rival crowd.

A good example. A local 18yr old kid previously had a 4th gen Camaro with a 3.4L V6. Now, he has a 94 Mustang GT. Now, he acts like Mustangs are the greatest cars in existence ( even going as far as to claim the 2012 Shelby has the most powerful V8 on the planet. I politely pointed him toward SSC's Ultimate Aero. Twin Turbo'd 6.3L V8 producing almost double that of the 2012 Shelby. And it weighs as much as a Ford Focus to boot. ) and calling me a GM fanboy because I told him that Mustangs are nothing special and they are slow.

I also brought up the fact that aside from the Fox Body Mustangs and the current 5.0 Mustang, they have been utterly smoked by a Camaro at the equivalent trim level. As well as pointing out that 1993 and up, it takes a a Cobra Mustang to run even with a Camaro/Trans Am. Even went as far as to express my disappointment in GM for such a miniscule improvement with the 2010 Camaro over the LS1 Camaro / Trans Am ( Im also unhappy with them for discontinuing Pontiac. That was a poor decision IMO ) and praised Ford for making much better progress from the 3v 4.6L V8 in the previous Mustang.

Immediately after this, he runs off at the mouth about my car and how its garbage, blah blah blah. I asked him if he realized that he is comparing my 1988 to a almost 10 year newer car, and despite the time difference, is still slower than my " garbage *** fake pansy V8 " I don't think he realized that it is for all intents and purposes, a CORVETTE engine. I mean, I can compare my GTA to a 77 Mustang if I wanted to be an equally large douchebag, but at least my newer car would be faster.

Its extremely hard to find someone who legitimately likes cars and isn't biased as ****. At least around here anyway.

Back on topic though, a good chunk of younger kids think V8 = muscle. Muscle's direct " enemy " is tuners/ricers. So a cheap V8? Old Camaro. They get an older V8 and automatically assume they're part of the muscle crowd and start hating on tuners / ricers. ( everyone should hate ricers though. Yes, Im talking about that 4cyl Saturn S-Series with tints, removed hubcaps, fogged tail lights and a fart can that attempts to haul *** around my neighborhood blasting rap with blown speakers )

Me personally? I'd drive my thirdgen off a bridge and into a pit of fire if I could have a 70-71 Plymouth 426/440 Hemi 'Cuda. And no, I wouldn't sell it for the ridiculous prices they go for. ( I think a convertible Cuda goes for over 2 million )

Originally Posted by dem74

Picture of my "rice sucks" sticker that I hand custom made for the back of my 97 WS6 Firebird. Instead of the Honda's revving their engines to try to race me at red lights, I was getting 1 finger salutes...lol

Originally Posted by dem74

I don't have hate. I dislike ricers...alot, but no hate. If you think that a "rice burner" could make me and my sticker look silly, we may have two very different ideas on what a rice burner is.

"Rice burners" in my area consist of 95hp honda civics with plastic body kits held on by rivets, lighted windshield washers on the hood, an erector set on trunk that looks like a wing and an exhaust pipe so big that it scrapes on every set of railroad tracks.

If I still had my 4th gen in that pic, I would be more than happy to meet your 72mm fed 2 liter on the track.

My best time slip:
1/4 mile 1/8 mile 60 ft.
11.397 @ 120.96 mph 7.346 @ 96.71 mph 1.750


I don't feel that I had anything to be ashamed of and displayed my sticker proudly.

Originally Posted by evilemokid94

hmmm, i spy a honda magna 750 , i have one in my garage i need to get a new battery for and new tail lights since the plastic ones broke.

Originally Posted by dem74

If I still had my 4th gen in that pic, I would be more than happy to meet your 72mm fed 2 liter on the track.

My best time slip:
1/4 mile 1/8 mile 60 ft.
11.397 @ 120.96 mph 7.346 @ 96.71 mph 1.750


I don't feel that I had anything to be ashamed of and displayed my sticker proudly.

Originally Posted by wwwyzzerdd

im more into american muscle, but ive always liked the old toyotas, i have an 86 toyota pickup, with a 4cyl 22r motor and its been very reliable, it has 426,000 miles on it, all ive ever had to do on it was the regular oil changes, replaced the spark plugs and tires, its been driven to florida and back twice and to dallas from shreveport, la several times, ive had it since i was 16, so around 6 years, and have put 130,000 on it since i got it, its only a 90hp motor lol, but its a reliable ride

Originally Posted by dem74

Ha...I totally agree. There are/is much faster cars out there than what I had. And, I am not just picking on the Honda guys. Most of the other import cars in my area are the same way...total d-bags and they think their car is fast.

I just was next to a 1997 ish Hyundai Tiburon this past weekend. This guy cars was just a huge joke. Ridiculous spoiler, wheels spray painted flat black and peeling, big ole coffee can hanging out the back. He was revving it up and it sounded like he was ready to cut down a tree.

After revving back...we both launched hard at the green light.

He saw nothing but taillights from my 2009 4 cylinder Chevy Malibu...hahahaha

Originally Posted by shortyskater

I agree with dem74 100%. Seems like once someone sees an import done all up with high rise wings, 5" mufflers, stickers on every window, that any import after that is a POS. Many american can owners do the same thing to theirs. I hate how people just bash on the tuners because they saw one awful looking car. Many thirdgens are POS but then you have the select few who own a 500HP beast.

Originally Posted by zraffz

any car worthy of running in the 11's or faster on pump fuel deserves some respect.

Originally Posted by patin88z

LMAO!!! Your kidding...right???

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