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Old 09-29-2008, 12:56 PM
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84 Z vs Silverado and recent kills

I got a friend with a 2000 silverado, 5.3L vortec. Only mod is a corvette CAI and the fact that the kid knows how to drive....
I got a 1984 camaro, with a 350 dropped in it (year unknown) i believe the motor is older than 1985 though, i got a weland xeclerator intake manifold, 600 cfm carb, a mild edelbrock camshaft and lifters, and a shift kit.
ive ridden in his truck and it can haul *** (to a point)
i just got my maro up and running last night (MASSIVE vaccum leaks) we took it a couple times around main, the kills that night include a 5.7L 2008 toyota sequoia (381 HP w/ 401 ft/Lbs), it was a boat though, its power didn't make up for the fact that it was 6000lbs +
along with that is a newish style turbo diesil truck flat bed,
thats it, a honda got scared and not race, along with a durango (it was a friend lol)
so ya, what do you guys think i'll do against the silverado? i got bald back tires (old wipe radials) and 3.73 gears. Auto.
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Re: 84 Z vs Silverado and recent kills

Well thanks for the help guys.....
Anyway, if anyone does read this, i raced him last night, 2 rolls at 10 mph (we both had bald tires) and then 2 digs.
First roll i got him good all the way through first, but when i hit second my power just kinda died off, i'll post a thread later asking on how to fix that, anyway, he still didn't come close to getting me, got him by prolly 2 car lengths when we broke off at 75-80mph or so.
second roll was a oops, my horn didn't work on the 3rd honk, he had timed it right and took off while i was still trying to get it to work. my front was at his door catching up when we broke off.
the two digs where a different story. my start off rocked, i went to powerbrake and found i was smoking my tires haha so i just started at low rpm, first round i got him by a car and a half before we broke off at 65 or so (short road)
second round i had him by over two lengths and disappearing rapidly.
i'll go post that thread now
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That 5.3 isn't very impressive in a full size truck. My mom has a Tahoe with the same motor and it's a pig. Try racing another car.
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Ya, from the amount of people he's ran down around here i thought he would put up more of a fight. only has a CAI and exhaust, though, before we raced he prepped his up, hot spark plugs, wires, octane booster, i had SP that had 5k miles on them and were nothing special, low grade fuel, and bald tires. but ya, there arn't that many cars around here worth racing, i've only raced trucks and things similar
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wow octane booster!!!! no hp gain....higher octane gas is harder to burn and can actually cause u to lose hp if u dont have an engine that needs it. there is no more hp to be had by runnin premium in a motor built for 87.........and wires are about the same deal electricity only works as hard as it has to so if u have some low compression stock motor with decent stock wires and u switch to some big dyno whoping MSD wires the only gains you will have are all in your head. stop racing trucks it gives u a false sense of being fast....too many idiots on this site. too many young guys who are only basicaly R icers in disguise that got beat by a v8 so now they decided to get one but still dont know what the hell to do to make power. and too many old school guys who are stuck in the 70s and 80s on how to make power. (i need me some double hump heads and one of them there rv cams and wooo boy look out now!) third gens are 9 times out of 10 slow yet you guys still want to race cars all the time like lil retards giving our cars bad names....go to the track run a 15.5 realize your slow and STOP RACING TRUCKS!!!
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hey dip ****, your one of the most ignorant and arrogant people i've ever had the misfortune of talking to. and i bet an abnormal amount of people will agree with me. The octane does help, and it doesn't make you lose any power if you have the spark to back it up. Shitty spark plugs will give a half assed spark, therefore wasting fuel, why do you think people upgrade there spark plugs?!?! Why are you even a member of this site? If all you do is attempt to degrade people, throwing critisizm at them, and being completely unhelpful? Just cause you have a fast car and know something about it, doesn't mean you are better than everyone else and have the right to walk all over them. So kindly step the **** back and if you don't have anything helpful to say, then keep your ****ing mouth shut
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I don't agree with how igotta phrased it or how it was put, but it is true that adding octane does not increase power, and will actually hurt it because it is harder to ignite the fuel with a low compression motor. The spark plugs can help depending on what he was using, if he was using platinum and switched to iridium for the race it could have affected it but not by much. platinum has very low conductivity making it hard to transfer the electricity through it. glad you had fun on your races.
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Okay thanks cabmustang, i seem to have been mistaken on the octane booster. He was running standard plugs and replaced them with quadrasparks. Thanks again
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Re: 84 Z vs Silverado and recent kills

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hey dip ****, Shitty spark plugs, half assed spark, therefore wasting fuel, people upgrade "there" spark plugs?!?!, Why are you even a member of this site? throwing "critisizm" at them, and being completely unhelpful? Just cause you have a fast car and know something about it, doesn't mean you are better than everyone else and have the right to walk all over them. So kindly step the **** back and if you don't have anything helpful to say, then keep your ****ing mouth shut
"your one of the most ignorant and arrogant people i've ever had the misfortune of talking to. and i bet an abnormal amount of people will agree with me."

umm 10sec look what you just said, 3 filtered words, shitty, and assed, misspellings, incorrect use of "there", asking why igotta is on this site, and at the same time calling HIM ignorant and arrogant? then you say "and i bet an abnormal amount of people will agree with me." starting a sentence with "and"? and then you an abnormal amount of people? seriously? trying to use a big vocabulary (which u did incorrectly, abnormal is the WRONG word to use in that situation) to appear better than igotta, who you just accused of thinking he's better then everyone else? it seems it is you that is ignorant.

I agree with igotta, maybe he was a bit harsh, but what he said is true,
don't race trucks, octane booster is crap, plugs and wire will maintain power, not add any. and for the love of god wash the car in you avatar, or is that a reflection that looks like dirt?
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dude, this is a forum, not a literature site. you could go through all of the threads and find misspelled words. i'll race whatever wants to race me. and that picture is 6 months old and was taken after a rain storm, whats the big deal?
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anyways.. back on topic.. if you wanna race a decently fast mostly stock pickup.. ill let ya race my hemi its pretty quick, dont really have any numbers of how fast it is.. short bed, standard cab, 3.90 locking rear.. its pretty impressive for a truck..
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and that picture is 6 months old and was taken after a rain storm, whats the big deal?
just a little whiskey tango, and that's what 3rd gen's are trying to move away from, plus i like looking at pictures of nice clean cars but hey if you like it all dirty go for it, it is a free country
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Two words "chill out" you guys are critisizing this guy for what another guy did to their truck... what the hell
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Dude...like I will totally take you on in my '98 Bowtie Suburban...its a real gem, with 180k miles. This thing totally burns grandmas in their lincoln towncars, cuz its got like 5.7 V8, triple platinum tip nascar grade spark plugs, a rusted out blowmaster exhuast system with chrome tips that decrease back pressure, 115 octane booster (yah know the high tech stuff with that #43 nascar old dude on it), and i even took the 3rd row seat, spare tire, jack and beer cans out of the back of it to knock off like 800lbs! There isn't much to take on in my little small town but trucks and the mail man, but granny is gonna crap her Depends when I blow the doors off her 06 Lincoln TownCar!

Come on guys. I normally don't get too animated about this "Theoretical and Street Racing" forum but some of this stuff is just way over the top. I love my third gen just as much as anyone else around here but racing trucks in an f-body? I think some people think the size of their johnson is determined by the amount of attention (both positive or negative) that they recieve by acting light children in their ****** mobiles. I will say this as nice as possible...if you can't display a little bit of maturity when on the road...all your gonna do is feed the stereotype that all third generation f-body owners are ignorant *******s.

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ok wow you all disappoint me, For one ppl can race whoever they want, i've seen some freakin fast trucks out there, stop being dicks to the kid, he had fun who cares about the rest, and if you really are complaining about his avatar you might as well just never talk again b/c that is the STUPIDEST thing you could possibly complain about.. talk about finding something to critisize.... and sailtexas186548 who gives a **** about misspellings? really? if he wants to not take the time to look intelligent then whatever then, but bitching about it makes you look like a douschebag.
and igotta355z28 i like you but come on why did you just flip out? that was a pretty poor showing of your maturity. Nice kill man!! keep em coming!!
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thanks to all those who backed me up, all those who think that all trucks are slow, check out this link, cause if your not careful you'll run into the wrong truck
http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...d.php?t=348390
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Unless you beat a built Lightning, some homemade hot rod truck, or maybe a Trailblazer SS, saying you beat a truck is like pointing out that the sky is blue...NO ****. Don't expect any accolades from anybody with a fast car.
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Unless you beat a built Lightning, some homemade hot rod truck, or maybe a Trailblazer SS, saying you beat a truck is like pointing out that the sky is blue...NO ****. Don't expect any accolades from anybody with a fast car.

buddy if you don't know some trucks are pretty fast, trailblazer SS, silverado SS isn't too bad, the SRT-10 is pretty quick, and normal everyday chevy Silverado 1500's are pretty quick, same as the 1500 Ram's with the HEMI. They hold their own, theres a 4x4 Siverado with a single turbo setup that wastes lots of modded cars like nothing. Its blue on youtube. 2004 i think....
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buddy if you don't know some trucks are pretty fast, trailblazer SS, silverado SS isn't too bad, the SRT-10 is pretty quick, and normal everyday chevy Silverado 1500's are pretty quick, same as the 1500 Ram's with the HEMI. They hold their own, theres a 4x4 Siverado with a single turbo setup that wastes lots of modded cars like nothing. Its blue on youtube. 2004 i think....
That turbo Silverado is pretty rad, and those turbo diesel Rams are pretty damn quick (surprised the hell out of me in my Formy 350). I'm not debating whether or not some trucks are fast, I'm just pointing out that bragging over beating a STOCK Silverado and a STOCK Sequoia at any performance car forum will get you laughed off the intarwebz pretty fast.
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That turbo Silverado is pretty rad, and those turbo diesel Rams are pretty damn quick (surprised the hell out of me in my Formy 350). I'm not debating whether or not some trucks are fast, I'm just pointing out that bragging over beating a STOCK Silverado and a STOCK Sequoia at any performance car forum will get you laughed off the intarwebz pretty fast.

i agree with ya on that fact, sequoia is a waste to even race lol, i must have missed that part, hahaha
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ok wow you all disappoint me, For one ppl can race whoever they want, i've seen some freakin fast trucks out there, stop being dicks to the kid, he had fun who cares about the rest, and if you really are complaining about his avatar you might as well just never talk again b/c that is the STUPIDEST thing you could possibly complain about.. talk about finding something to critisize.... and sailtexas186548 who gives a **** about misspellings? really? if he wants to not take the time to look intelligent then whatever then, but bitching about it makes you look like a douschebag.
and igotta355z28 i like you but come on why did you just flip out? that was a pretty poor showing of your maturity. Nice kill man!! keep em coming!!
^ it wasn't a fast truck, if it was no one would be giving him a hard time. your maturity is laughable, telling ME?! to never talk again because of what i said, and you respond with that? seriously? then you rag on igotta as well for a "poor showing of maturity"? Jesus.
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and igotta355z28 i like you but come on why did you just flip out? that was a pretty poor showing of your maturity.
i flipped cause i have anger issues lol..i dont know i just get annoyed by stupid **** like this does he deserve my ranting probably not. but o well whats done is done and i dont apologize.....
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hey dip ****, your one of the most ignorant and arrogant people i've ever had the misfortune of talking to. and i bet an abnormal amount of people will agree with me. The octane does help, and it doesn't make you lose any power if you have the spark to back it up. Shitty spark plugs will give a half assed spark, therefore wasting fuel, why do you think people upgrade there spark plugs?!?! Why are you even a member of this site? If all you do is attempt to degrade people, throwing critisizm at them, and being completely unhelpful? Just cause you have a fast car and know something about it, doesn't mean you are better than everyone else and have the right to walk all over them. So kindly step the **** back and if you don't have anything helpful to say, then keep your ****ing mouth shut
oh and when he writes stuff like this clearly lacking knowledge of the internal working of an automotive engine and proves his performance theory came from the fast and the furious it just makes me want to bash more and more,,, and o yeah buddy you say i am completely unhelpful, i sugest you go read your first post ever here on tgo i was very helpful to you i just get tired of people that think higher octane makes more power and bosh platinum plugs are great. I
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Re: 84 Z vs Silverado and recent kills

this discussion could go on for ages, and frankly, we are way off topic. this was posted nearly 2 months ago, why are we still talking about it?
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Thats it, I'm taking my F250 out thirdgen hunting. I'm willing to bet I snag a win or two... if not octane booster FTMFW!!!
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Is this whole theoretical and street racing board getting out of hand latley or is it just me?For some reason I start reading this crap and I cant stop.It`s like a freakin train wreck.I`ve learned I have to unsubscribe to these threads as soon as I post or my inbox will be full of crap.Almost like what I`m writing.I cant stop myself,I cant turn away.
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Re: 84 Z vs Silverado and recent kills

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hey dip ****, your one of the most ignorant and arrogant people i've ever had the misfortune of talking to. and i bet an abnormal amount of people will agree with me. The octane does help, and it doesn't make you lose any power if you have the spark to back it up. Shitty spark plugs will give a half assed spark, therefore wasting fuel, why do you think people upgrade there spark plugs?!?! Why are you even a member of this site? If all you do is attempt to degrade people, throwing critisizm at them, and being completely unhelpful? Just cause you have a fast car and know something about it, doesn't mean you are better than everyone else and have the right to walk all over them. So kindly step the **** back and if you don't have anything helpful to say, then keep your ****ing mouth shut
why did you blank out **** but leave shitty?

oh ya and unless you have very high compression (or your engine tends to ping) theres really no point to octane booster.
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If you were around me I'd run ya in my DMax... Big diesels are slow and its stock I promise
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